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In Topic: So who are the top RHed Dmen?

30 April 2014 - 03:03 PM


That list is 28 names long. those should be our targets. IMHO I would focus even further down to only the guys that make the top 100 in all 3 categories. That list is down to just 12 guys: Weber, Subban, Seabrook, Johnson, Franson, Faulk, Trouba, Gudas, Stone, Lovejoy, Hamonic, and Petry.

While I understand that we have a glaring need there, a lot of those players are almost untouchables. Petry isn't spectacular by any means but he has Detroit connections and who knows? I think he would actually be a decent signing. Tom Gilbert is another guy who I think could be a realistic target, perhaps one of those veterans that finds a home with the Wings. However, he has been available before and Holland left him alone so I think that says it all. 

In Topic: Howard = Average

12 March 2014 - 09:09 PM


Those teams also don't have Datsyuk and Zetterberg is my point. They don't have two elite two way forwards yet they have either gone just as far as the Wings, or further in the last couple years. Did you forget we had Lids, Raf, Kronwall, Stuart and Howie couldn't win? Those 4 are better than any top 4 you just named. Then mix in D and Z.


Do you remember when Nashville knocked us out ? Do you remember the performance Rinne put on? We couldn't even score.


Toronto forwards are fast but suck ass on defense, and their top 4 are not good at all (I watch quite abit of Leaf games). They took Boston to game 7 and should have went to the next round except for the choke.


We have a better team then New York, but Lunqvist keeps them in every single year and have made it further then us in a couple playoffs now since 2009.


Howard just doesn't have what it takes to get it done when it matters. This year just screams, not so good D = your true goalie.

While I admit that Jimmy isn't a goalie that will steal many games much less an entire series like Lundqvist or Rinne, he is a far better goalie than Reimer is. 


The NYR have a stronger defensive group of defensemen than we do and that can help Lundqvist out...I mean McDonough and Klein both block a lot of shots and clear rebounds very well. I am not making excuses for Howard but you're not factoring in some of the shall we say, disadvantages Howard has in comparison to some other goalies. 


We are really lucky to have the two best two way players in the league on our side and that can only help from a defensive standpoint. Having Lids, Raf, Stuart, Kronwall as the top four with Jimmy as the starter is a bit of a catch 22. Yes, that is an amazing top four but Jimmy was in his first two seasons as "the guy" and that comes with some adjustments (especially in the playoffs). You also have to factor in that Rafalski wasn't getting any younger (this doesn't apply to Nick), Stuart had won his Cup and his head and heart were in a different place in 2010 and Kronwall missed half a season due to injury. 


All that said, I do agree with you. However, if we put the Howard of last year in a net with the aforementioned top 4, I think he would definitely be a winner.  

In Topic: What would it take a get Shea Weber?

12 March 2014 - 01:42 PM

True, but from what I've seen of him, he doesn't play nearly as physical as he used to. He was once compared to Dion Phaneuf in reference to his hard-hitting play early in his career. I think those comparisons have stopped.

Well to be fair, Phaneuf's biggest hit came against his teammate haha but on a serious note, I think Weber's game has changed a lot in recent years and perhaps for the better. Also, I don't think he is gambling on hits as much since he no longer has Suter to bail him out if he gets caught. I always thought Suter was the better all around dman of the two.


Back to Phaneuf and Weber, if we look at where they both started at and look at where they have ended up in terms of development, I don't think there is a sane person that would take Phaneuf over Weber. Weber has evolved and adjusted a whole lot more than Phaneuf has and is by far a better all around player. 

In Topic: What would it take a get Shea Weber?

12 March 2014 - 01:31 PM

Shea Weber's physicality is overrated. I don't think he's even fought 10 times in the last 5 years. Sure, he'll drill a guy when he's not looking, but he's not nearly as physical as he was when he first broke into the league. That being said, he's an offensive force on the blueline. I'd rather have Mark Giordano, though, to be honest.

Don't forget that it isn't exactly common for a team's top defenseman or even player in this case to be dropping the gloves too often. Trotz would lose his mind. 

In Topic: 3/11 GDT: Red Wings 1 at Blue Jackets 4

12 March 2014 - 01:24 PM

I'm not sure what you guys saw last night.  I didn't see the Wings lose because they were getting beat up.  Yeah, Columbus was physical, but our problem was, once again, terrible defensive positioning and no offense.  


I agree it'd be nice to be able to defend ourselves, but it's hardly a priority at this point.  We've never been outmuscled in a playoff series and lost, at least the last 10 years or so.  That's what matters to me.  

Exactly. The refs did not help the Wings at all but they didn't help themselves either. The Jackets were everywhere, especially in the third period. They were winning battles in all three zones and appeared to be playing intense playoff style hockey and the Wings simply couldn't match up and after they went down a goal, they folded up like an accordion. 


Emmerton losing the puck on the second goal. Tatar not tracking back well enough on the third goal...you're spot on.