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#2330367 [Retired] Official Lockout Thread

Posted by Pskov Wings Fan on 30 September 2012 - 04:28 PM

Jokes about the value of people with MBA's are not just jokes.


#2330180 [Retired] Official Lockout Thread

Posted by Pskov Wings Fan on 27 September 2012 - 10:29 AM

Keep pressing that "I win" button until your finger falls off. It still doesn't change the fact that you are siding with a union that has little to no interest in playing hockey this season. Sure, they aren't as bad as the owners, but they don't deserve your unwaivering loyalty.


But they do have interest in playing hockey. Just today Datsyuk had two assists and Malkin scored a goal and added two assists.
Players just do want to play in NHL given the conditions owners are demanding.


#2330073 [Retired] Official Lockout Thread

Posted by Pskov Wings Fan on 26 September 2012 - 07:39 AM

While I do somewhat agree, I think that the ownership has a right to at least make a profit.


To me "right to make a profit" means that owners are entitled to it. This I do not agree with. Owners have a right to try to make a profit. But there should be no guarantees.


#2330047 [Retired] Official Lockout Thread

Posted by Pskov Wings Fan on 25 September 2012 - 06:18 PM

This is what I don't understand and maybe someone here can educate me.

I believe a fair and equitable agreement can be made between both sides. As has been pointed out numerous times, any two sides who were cooperative and were bargaining honestly could hammer out an agreement in a couple hours. I don't see many people on the sides of the owners here, and on the flip side I see many on the sides of the players. This makes sense due to the offers that were shelled out and Fehr's comments to the press. What I don't understand is why someone has to be either for or against one side. There is no looking at the big picture and seeing faults with both. There is no looking at the offers that were put forward and comparing/contrasting them.

I guess its a lot like religion or political preference. "If you aren't a (insert affiliate name here), then you are wrong" mentality. I guess that its time for fans to get mad, not take sides.


I generally support the players because when I go to a hockey game I pay money to see the players. I do not care who the owner is and what his/her financial situation is.

For me as a fan league profits mean that I am paying too much for the tickets. If NHL would have decided to cut ticket prices 24% across the board. Now that would have been a deal I can support.


#2329829 Jimmy D Speaks out on Lockout, fined $250k

Posted by Pskov Wings Fan on 23 September 2012 - 10:17 PM

SO FREE SPEECH COST $250,000 NOW. Not so free! I'm a Kings fan from 1969, if Luc Robitaille got fined for saying something like that, I'd be boycotting all things NHL and AEG (who own the Kings). Oh, I forgot, because I'm out $1000 on preseason travel plans for Kings games that have been cancelled, I am done with NHL. I lost money on the previous lockouts as well. I'm supporting the AHL, ECHL. Maybe see if DirecTV can get me some of the KHL games.

Goodbye NHL!


This got nothing to do with free speech. NHL can be viewed as a private club, which is free to fine its members (teams) per its own by-laws.


#2329640 Jimmy D Speaks out on Lockout, fined $250k

Posted by Pskov Wings Fan on 21 September 2012 - 05:24 PM

Flipping it, to 43% players and 57% owners still seems like a good deal to me. That's still a huge chunk to the players, but you have to remember the owners still have to pay coaches, scouts, doctors, vendors, trainers, administrators, insurance, marketing and maintenance. Imagine if doctors at a hospital demanded 50% of all revenues?


The percentages have no meaning unless we know what all the clubs expenses are. Without this information now can anybody say what is a good deal or bad deal for either side.
And maybe 50% for doctors is fair. I have no clue.

But the clubs did sign players to certain contracts and now they want to basically renegotiate them. Players agreed to this once and now owners are coming back for me. Unless players have the desire to keep giving back every few years they have to resist.

Lets take Datsyuk for example. 24% rollback would turn his $6.7M into about $5M.

There is a different between cattle and people, cattle can't leave the ranch.


#2328688 2012 Lockout Watch

Posted by Pskov Wings Fan on 14 September 2012 - 08:11 AM

Lack of flexibility, concession, and greed is what caused the strike. The owners feel like they are entitled to more. The players feel that they are entitled to more.


If you want to appear balanced you should not call coming NHL work stoppage "strike". Strike is an action by players. What NHL is moving to is a lockout.

And to be precise, players are not asking for more. They are asking that absolute amount of money spent on players compensation is not reduced and then allowing NHL to take greater share of the future revenue growth.

I think that projected NHL revenue growth in NHLPA proposal is too high (something like 7%). They should be able to drop it to be inline with overall inflation numbers (under 3%). It would remove another thing for owners to complain about and probably would not cost players whole lot.


#2328662 2012 Lockout Watch

Posted by Pskov Wings Fan on 14 September 2012 - 12:30 AM

As Fehr pointed out, what's in it for the players in any of these offers from the NHL? The concessions the union is mainly asking for is a less insane reduction from the league. They're not asking to get rid of the cap. The league is so fixated on ratcheting down players salary that it seems like they haven't even discussed things like contract length. And that's where I think the union can do some giving. Length of CBA. Length of player contracts.


Here are couple other things players can offer to the league.
- Make the cap number to equal actual salary (kill the front-loaded contracts)
- Remove players option for the 5% cap inflator


#2328518 2012 Lockout Watch

Posted by Pskov Wings Fan on 12 September 2012 - 09:19 PM

Its beyond me that someone would watch either of those press conferences and think that one side is doing everything in its power to make sure a season starts while the other is totally at fault in these negotiations. I suppose you have to have your lips firmly planted on the ass of the NHLPA to really come to that conclusion.


I think that making sure that seasons starts is not the main goal of either side. The goal is to make sure that over the lifetime of the next CBA it would be most beneficial to that particular side. From that point of view each side is just following their agenda. Fans and people whose paychecks depend on NHL games (apart from players) are interested in not losing any games but they are not part of the process.


#2328516 2012 Lockout Watch

Posted by Pskov Wings Fan on 12 September 2012 - 08:45 PM

Hell no. Emmerton can wear #25 on a different team when we trade him away. 25 will ALWAYS be Darren McCarty.

I don't understand why everyone is blaming Bettman alone? Why this guy Don Fehr and his little brother are not to blame too? Is this because Bettman salary is two times greater than Fehr's.

NHL has been ready for negotiation long before New Year 2012, it's been said too many times. Fehr responded once saying talks will start sometime after All-Star break. Well he was right, talks started well after All-Star break.


It is clear that owners want to have more than 50% of revenues while players are not willing accept less than 50%. If positions cannot be reconciled it does not matter when you start negotiating.


#2327336 2012 Lockout Watch

Posted by Pskov Wings Fan on 30 August 2012 - 11:24 AM

I don't care that a player makes 4 million a year, but what bothers me is that they won't settle for 3.7 million. Which is still a huge amount to get paid for playing your favorite sport.


Players settling for less money would not result in lower prices for consumers but in more profits for owners. There is a difference here.


#2326874 2012 Lockout Watch

Posted by Pskov Wings Fan on 26 August 2012 - 10:53 AM

Those teams doing poorly in attendance, and as a result not doing well money wise, shouldn't be forced to spend to a cap floor.


Teams have to ice NHL level lineup. If a team can't do that maybe it should not exist.


#2326661 2012 Lockout Watch

Posted by Pskov Wings Fan on 23 August 2012 - 08:05 PM

Maybe players should just start their own league. Without best hockey players on the planet NHL is nothing. On the other hand if all the owners got replaced with whole new lot I doubt any hockey fan would notice.


#2230996 Wings are soft as hell.

Posted by Pskov Wings Fan on 29 November 2011 - 09:57 PM

Well, if enough people are using that word, that means it may have some actual truth behind it.


Number of people supporting particular idea is not a good way to evaluate validity of the said idea.

Having said that I am biased since I prefer skill over grit. Two Sharks skating into each other trying to hit Dats is my idea of a good hockey play. Him fighting Perry - I can live without.


#2105102 Nabokov claimed by NYI, refuses to report, suspended

Posted by Pskov Wings Fan on 25 January 2011 - 08:02 PM

Why sign him, when you can just wait until someone else does and pick him up on waivers?


Also the only reason Nabokov would have signed with Islanders is money. They would have had to pay him real salary.