marcaractac

Totally agree on the Pens. The biggest concern obviously is the Bruins. But they have showed in the past that they take a while to turn it on and are known for being taken to the brink in game 7 of the first round.

Teams like Boston and Philly wouldn't sign Legwand because they already have 2nd line centers. Be realistic here. The teams who would sign Legwand are teams who need someone like Legwand. Boston wouldn't go and sign him for s***s and giggles. If he went to the Islanders? Guess what. They become a better team. A cup contender? No. Because they are missing more than just centers at this point. Legwand was good for 40+ points on a team that barely scored. A team that depended on a solid defensive system and low scoring to win games. Legwand on a team like a healthy Red Wings team will likely be a 60 point player. But either way, I'm done with this thread. It is silly at this point. It has become a thread of people complaining every time Jarnkrok gets a point. It is pointless. There is no longer a constructive discussion in here. You keep going on saying everyone suddenly thinks jarnkrok is a useless prospect. No, he is not. But he is useless to us because he is with Nashville now. That will not change. So if you want to keep stressing out as if Jarnkrok is all but guaranteed to be a big star, go ahead. I, along with many Wings fans, can actually see the positives in this trade and not dwell on what ifs. So glad we have a GM who isn't willing to give up on a season because he is too afraid to trade 1 prospect, when we still have many others, and will continue to draft more.

That would be great to see! Can't even remember the last Red Wings fight at this point lol

Keep this thread on topic please. And stop putting words in everyone's mouth, as nobody said Jarnkrok is a useless prospect. He simply isn't our prospect. So why dwell on it. If you're going to continue to post in this thread, please keep on topic and stop dragging my name into an argument that has nothing to do with it.

Once again, you undervalue Legwand, and overvalue Jarnkrok. Legwand certainly is a 2nd line center. For you to say he isn't a top 6 forward on a good team is actually kind of insane. This is the cap era. Teams don't get to have 50 point guys on their 3rd line anymore. Maybe a team will luck out and have that for 1 year, but even that doesn't happen much. I agree. The kids have been huge for us. But without Legwand actually giving us a top line for other teams to focus on shutting down, the kids wouldn't find as much success as they currently are. 7 points in 9 games for Legwand has been fantastic, considering everything else he brings to the table as well. If you want to cheer for a team that is afraid to trade a young player or two to improve their team for a playoff run, I'm sure the Oilers would welcome you with open arms. Jordan Staal on the 3rd line. And where is he now? A team cannot cap-wise sustain that kind of production on their 3rd line in this league today.

Because Ferraro is Wings property. Jarnkrok isn't. No use bringing up things to get the thread off topic.

Moulson is also a winger. Like I said, centers have more value. Jarnkrok isn't a star either, and most likely never will be. And like I said before. No Legwand makes this a team with only one line that can score. That becomes easy for teams to shut down, and we don't do things like go 3-0-1 in the last 4 games with all of our eggs in one basket. There is absolutely no chance this team is in a wild card spot without this trade happening. You're convincing yourself otherwise, because you are too hung up on giving up Jarnkrok. You don't get a top six 2-way center with a couple 2nd round picks. This isn't a video game.

Are people really gonna get upset and post in here every time he gets a single point? Seriously though, I don't get why people are so worried. Holland is NEVER going to sell the farm. When was the last time he gave up one of our better prospects? Mathias? I don't see anyone flipping out about him getting 10 points in his last 11 games. Holland made a trade he absolutely had to make. Real life isn't NHL 14. You're not gonna get guys like Legwand for a couple of picks unless you wanna make one of them a 1st rounder. And before anyone mentions Vanek, A solid 2 way center who works his ass off has more value than a one dimensional winger who is lazy on the back check. Especially when said center will very likely resign, and Vanek has specifically said he wants to test the market. Up until this point, getting Legwand has been a season saving trade. More than worth a prospect. People should just do themselves a favor and stop getting angry every time Jarnkrok gets a point. If that's all you have to worry about in life, you got it pretty good.

It is inexperience in our lineup when the opposing turns it up another gear when losing. It leads to the young players on the Wings making mistakes. This is what happens when you have 12 players on your team that was in the AHL last season. On top of that, blown leads in today's league is nothing new. It is happening across the league with manufactured parity and situational officiating. A lot of people has blamed coaching during the season, which I think is silly. The system the team is playing is what's giving them the best chance to win every night. There might be 3 or 4 coaches in this league that can have this team in the situation it is is right now. In the end, coaching can only do so much to prevent mistakes. The rest of it comes down to experience, and it is great that we have a dozen or so players getting loads of it.

Ferraro I think can grow into a solid NHLer. It will just take him time. It took him a while to adjust to the AHL level as well, and now he is a very big part of that team's success. Some guys just need more time to grow than others.

Well a top dman wouldn't have done much at all with no center lol. And without Legwand allowing the team to have a #1 line being matched up against the other teams best players, Gus is on the kid line playing against other teams 3rd or 4th lines and scoring big goals. Without Legwand, we'd have Mule centering Gus on the top line. All our eggs in one basket = easy to shut down for other teams. Therefore, we'd have lost a lot of the games we have won and would be down there with the Devils and Sens instead of holding the #1 wildcard. When you really look at it, it was legit a season saving trade up until this point. We get Weiss and Datsyuk back before the season is over and this team starts looking a lot more dangerous. Especially if they can stay alive long enough to get Hank back. That is why I think giving up just one of our prospects to give this team a shot at the post season is definitely worth it. Especially considering it is for a guy who will most likely resign. We still have a lot of good kids in the system. It would take a lot more than just Jarnkrok to get a Top dman, as they are a hell of a lot harder to come by than a good center. You start asking for a top dman, and teams are gonna want guys like Gus, not Jarnkrok. A prospect alone is limiting to what you can get in return. But regardless of how Jarnkrok turns out, nobody in the Wings organization is gonna dwell on it and let it affect things they do down the road. It was a trade that had to be made to give this team a chance to win. And if Holland had to do it again, he most certainly would.

Settle down he isn't going anywhere. And without that trade we would not be in a playoff spot. You have to give up something to get something back.

We also have ROW tie breaker, and leading season series tie breaker against them. Makes our final game against them very important just in case we end up tied in points when all is said and done. could be the difference between 3rd or a wildcard, or wildcard and the goal differential is super close.

100%. The Goose running loose, getting Legwand at the trade deadline, and Howard playing a lot more like he did last season are the big 3 reasons they're in it. the Legwand/Mule line aren't scoring every game, but it forces the other team to play their best players either against them or Goose. Without Legwand, we'd have Mule centering Goose, and the team would be scoring a lot less.

Hey now, it is an excellent "I'm getting drunk as f***" beer lol

3/4 points on back to back nights. we'll take it.

Franzen being in the lineup is what is allowing Gus to play against the opponents bottom 6 forwards and score huge goals for us. So.... no.

aaaaaaaaaand we pass the Leafs

TATAR!!!!

Tatar tripped, nothing

YOU DON'T SAY?

Where is the slashing call?!?!

Come on with that Glendening goal!!

If we ignore it, it might go away

*DINK*