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Holland needs to learn from Yzerman's Drouin situation. How to handle bad attitudes 101. Obviously, Mrazek has to put the work in to fix things as well, but Holland could have certainly (and still can) handle it far better. Keep s*** internal. Continue to try and work with him to increase his value to the team, whether that be by becoming a bonafide #1 again or as a trade asset. None of this leaking s*** to moronic beat writers in a s***ty attempt to get everyone on the Coreau train.

Does this mean he does not want the Sens added to his trade list I wonder?

With the likes of Crosby and Malkin, hence why I said if it was a draft with guys like Mathews or McDavid I'd absolutely choose the center over the d haha. In the end, if we get Liljegren with the #9 and don't sign anyone to a contract longer than 1 season next month, I'll be quite pleased. I mean, being in a real situation of having the two top picks, you'd never have that constraint. I'd take the best center and the best dman.

To be fair Blash was always way too quick to go back to relying on Vets.

That's definitely a fair concern. But having Hank for another season or two, and the continued development of Larkin, AA, and Svech, I think we'll be alright. Definitely not as bleak as the blueline pipeline I think a lot of these issues begin to go away with a mobile defense that can skate and move the puck.

See our differences in how we'd like the draft to be handled comes down to two things. 1. I think we'll be fine down the middle once our young centers get to actually consistently play center. The likes of Patrick, Vilardi, Hischeir would very likely be no better than Larkin come next season. All will get better with experience, including those we already have. 2. I feel the ceiling of a couple of the dmen in the draft are higher than that of Trouba, Fowler. It's also scary looking at the depth chart of defense in the Wings system. Even worse when looking at what's already on the main roster. If we take a dman now, and it doesn't pan out in a couple years down the middle, I simply think it would be cheaper/easier to use young players/picks to trade for a top 6 center than a top pairing dman. Look at the Preds and Sens. They did what they did in the playoffs on the backs of high-end defense.

Osgood is tied 3rd all-time in goals at his position. It's baffling he isn't already in

I'll put in my guess when we see what their roster looks like come training camp lol

It works the other way around as well, however. Draft a high-end dman, and you can just package a guy like AA or Svech for a top center instead. Though I feel that taking a damn instead of a center in the draft gives Holland the option of seeing how things play out over the next couple seasons with Larkin, AA, and Svech. Drafting a center and trading for a dman might make the team better a little sooner, but I guess it all comes down to the potential of guys like Makar or Heiskanen. Will they be better than guys like Trouba or Theodore? Maybe, maybe not. But I feel like taking that gamble is worth it. It's all merely conversation anyway. I still think the best plan is to just stick with the pick we have and take Liljegren. But if we did trade up, I'd like it to be for Makar or Heiskanen. In the end, Patrick does not come without risk either after his injury issues he has had. Basically, the draft needs to hurry the f*** up lol And what if they are drafted at #1 and 2?

I want to see Holland fill the team's biggest need and draft a legit top pairing potential dman. It's been proven time and time again over the last calendar year that they cost a hell of a lot more than players like Goose or Tats in a trade. We're among the worst in the league on the blueline. The outlook down the middle currently isn't as bleak. I just feel high-end dman are more difficult to come by than high-end centers (not that centers are easy to come by. In terms of trades, I think it's best to worry about defense first and trade for a center if need be. Who knows how Larkin, AA, Svech will be in 2-3 years. For all we know, we could end up being fine down the middle as is. The same can't be said on the blueline at all. If this was a draft with the likes of Auston Mathews or Connor McDavid I'd agree with you 100%. But that isn't the case this year at all.

Then we are even more boned on defense than we already are? No thanks! If he somehow moved up to #3, it's to go for Heiskanen or Makar, not Patrick or Vilardi.

It's been the Oilers problem for several years until they got a GM with the guts to trade for defense lol

We'll find out once Howard gets hurt a month into the season

Nill will be s***tin' kittens if that's true

Or it could have been the fact that by having Fleury, McPhee wanted cheaper options for his other goalies and when looking at the Wings roster, he had no interest in a goalie regardless. I feel Nosek being chosen is more of a knock on guys like Sheahan than Mrazek. I do hope that Mrazek remains a Wing going into next season, as I feel it couldn't hurt to give him one last shot at redeeming himself. Low risk, high reward. Whatever keeps Coreau off the roster is fine by me.

They sure are milking this whole expansion thing

Whatever keeps Coreau out of Detroit keeps me happy. I think it's very concerning that Wings management is so high on him.

It isn't, but people were gonna act like the world is ending no matter who was drafted. I think Nosek will be a solid player, but players like him are also a dime a dozen. Mrazek, Sproul, XO, hell even Sheahan I feel all have higher upside.

That would sure allow Vegas to draft Tippett and Hague

Hard to say Blash is on a short leash when he is still employed.

Yeah, that's definitely reasonable. I'd be more than happy with Liljegren if it means not having to spend extra assets to move up.

It would definitely require trading up. Which I'm fine with if we can do it just by adding picks.

Liljegren won't play in the NHL this season period. Even so, if he were NHL ready and willing to play now, the team would make a roster spot for him. It's that simple.

This logic to go against drafting a potential top dman still makes literally zero sense.

A little unrealistic there, Bill