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Looks like we got a real one in Max Plante too. Kids scoring at a really good rate for a D+1 player in the NCAA. He’s producing about like Larkin did in the same league at the same age. Apparently he’s grown too. Heard on a podcast in the fall that he’s 6ft or 6’1 now, according to Max Bultman.

I don’t disagree that they score a lot. I don’t think they’re tough enough to make the kinds of winning plays it takes to lift the Cup. I feel the same way about the Leafs stars, the other Hughes brothers, etc. they all score a zillion points and get beat in the playoffs. Whoopdie doo!

Cossa is as good a goalie prospect as you could possible hope to have. He's outperformed Wallstedt at every step of their respective AHL careers, and his numbers are in line with what Askarov accomplished at the same age. He's without a doubt the best goalie prospect outside the NHL (I know he's up right now). He'll lead GR to a long playoff run this spring and he'll make the Red Wings as a backup to Talbot next fall. He's the real deal. And Augustine might end up being better one day.

Seider for sure had some jump last night. The whole team looked like they were comfortable and playing loose and not “gripping their sticks too tight”. I’m sure Lalonde hated it. Like Babcock before him, he’d rather lose a game 2-1 than win a game 6-5.

Quinn Hughes is a big puss who scores but can't defend. He's not shutting anyone down, he's not killing penalties. He wants to be paid like a 25 minute a night, all purpose, defenseman but he isn't one. He's Mike Green 2.0 We have studs coming at every position. Time to get a real winning coach to teach them how to play properly. Not Jay Woodcroft. I want Quenneville.

There is nothing that pisses me off more than players looking for calls. 9 times out of 10 if you stop skating to engage the refs or sell a call you'll get burned...just like Debrincat did. I was really excited about Debrincat a year ago and now I see why he's bounced around a bit. He's streaky and is charmin soft on the puck. Perron and Sprong would give you more goals at a lower cost and wouldn't be such ladyboys about it. SY kept the wrong guys. Wouldn't you rather have Perron, Fabbri, Walman, and Ghost than any combination of Kane, Tarasenko, Gustafsson, Maatta, Holl, Petry? I would. I'm very tired of half-assed veterans with nothing to play for.

I think we’ve got talent, even top end talent, coming at every position. Add MBN, Mazur, Lombardi to the wings, Danielson at center, Cossa and Augustine in goal, and ASP on defense to the lineup and fill in around them in free agency/trade.

Jon Buccigross's Red Wings observations from the game last night. Gotta say I agree with most of these (minus Rantanen). https://x.com/Buccigross/status/1864323161375768884

Debrincat goes down easy looking for a call and the Wings lose in OT. If he’s skating hard thats a Wings breakout and instead we lose. F*ck that dude.

I like Ras on the top line and powerplay. I don’t like Larkin and Raymond on the PK.

I loved the plus minus thing, it was a lot of fun.

Anybody have “Quenneville to Detroit” as a bold prediction? Lots of smoke On this rumor.

I don't even really care about the returns (within reason) because I think the on-ice impact would be a big addition by subtraction. I'm all for having quality, hard working, veterans around to provide leadership and push the young guys to steal roster spots. I'm not for gifting roster spots to underachievers who don't feel any motivation to perform. Like I said, guys like Kane and Tarasenko have nothing to play for. Same with Petry. At this point they're just cashing checks. Get gone from here Satan!!!!

Just what we needed, another aged vet with nothing to play for. Stamkos is on pace for 45 points. Hard pass. Bullet dodged.

TL;DR THERE ARE RULZ GADAMMIT!!!

If I recall Matt is a pretty public guy right? He's all over socials and whatnot? Someone who has those platforms should tag him in a post saying that the site has become overrun by Russian bots, vulgarity, racism, and vitriolic political arguments. Specifically mention how people casually throw around offensive terms about black people, homosexuals, and women and that Matt has been contacted over and over and doesn't bother to do anything about it. Let all his friends/followers see him tagged in the post and see if that gets his attention. I bet he pays attention after that considering he's a pretty vocal liberal online from what I remember.

This team isn't going anywhere until we've got two or three quality (not just serviceable) centers, four quality defensemen, and a regular NHL caliber starting goalie...at the same time. We've got one quality NHL center and it looks like Kasper and Danielson will slot in right after Larkin, but we aren't there yet. We've got two quality defensemen (Edvinsson and Seider) and it looks like ASP will be a third. We need four. I'd trade for Ivan Provorov. We have zero (long term) NHL caliber goalies. Talbot has been a stud, just like Bernier was a few years ago, but he's not a long term solution. Cossa is a beast and Augustine might be even better, so I'm not worried, but they're not ready yet. The only position where we've got actual talent aside from those guys is at wing, which is the least important position and the easiest to find talent in UFA. Our team is built in an idiotic way. The common refrain is that you build from the net out, and SY does seem to be doing that (to his credit). But we need a little more time to get those guys in NHL roster spots. IMO that means two things, 1) promote guys when they're ready and not let unenthusiastic vets crowd them out (Berggren, Edvinsson, AlJo, Kasper), and B) be just a little more patient with the guys who aren't quite ready (Danielson, ASP, Cossa) My list of tradeable assets from most to least valuable: 1. Dcat: this guy is a puss and is a total passenger. A contender with scoring/powerplay issues might be interested. 2. Talbot: He's been a stud so he's valuable. But I'd be bummed to move him because I think Cossa could learn a lot from him next season. 3. Compher: Marco makes this dude redundant as 2C and we only need one of Compher/Copp to be the 3C. 4. Kane/Tarasenko: Old, slow, unmotivated scoring wingers will only fetch marginal returns, but I'd be happy to replace either of these guys in the lineup with Mazur (as soon as he's healthy). 5. Rasmussen/Veleno: Both are solid defensively and don't cost much, which I'd imagine would appeal to contenders who need help on the defensively side of things. 5. Chiarot/Petry/Copp/Motte/Fischer: No real value here, either because the player is too expensive or because most organizations have guys like this already.

When last we spoke the Griffins were on a tear and all the guys you'd want to be leading that charge were the ones carrying the water. A few games later and...that's still basically what's going on. Lombardi is leading the charge, but Danielson is looking really good too. Pair this with the fact that we've got the 2nd best goalie in the AHL, leading scorer in the KHL and the best defenseman in the SHL. Other prospects of note, Finnie is dominating the WHL to the point where its absurd for him to be in that league. MBN is also playing like a stud in the SHL and Augustine is again dominating the NCAA. Also happy to see Ondrej Becher healthy and with the Griffins. I have him pegged as my darkhorse prospect so it's good to see him getting time, and producing, in the AHL.

I don’t drink, but I figured an IPA drinker would be intolerable to all the real macho men around here.

Don't look now but Dmitri Buchelnikov is third (1 point off the lead) in KHL scoring. Say what you want about long term projects that take a few years to develop, but I'm pretty happy to have this dude coming at some point in the next couple years. He's on that Kuztnesov/Kaprizov/Buchnevich developmental arch so we should be getting a pretty polished offensive player when he finally comes over.

It's getting really hard to tell the difference between the spam posts and @Scott R Lucidi posts. Either Scott is becoming a cyborg or being on the internet too much makes you retarded.

I heard his nickname was Lager but I wasn't paying too much attention...I'm an IPA guy.

I'm probably on an island here with this take, but I'm actually not too upset with the trajectory of the team. Like everyone else, I wish things were turning around sooner but I do see plenty of reasons for optimism. Our drafting since SY took over has been excellent and I like the profile of player that SY is bringing into the organization. I also think Grand Rapids' success last season and this season (so far) is a sign of things to come. I think adding Danielson, Kasper, ASP, Cossa, MBN, etc. is going to round out the organization and make us really competitive...as soon as a majority of those guys graduate to the Red Wings. Until then I'd like to see the team ice a competitive roster and have quality locker room veterans in place to teach these kids how to train and play properly. I don't want to see guys like Kane and Tarasenko coming in and ruining a culture of accountability and hard work with their laisslaiez faire two way play and unwillingness to fight for the puck. Last season, pre-Kane, we had a team that worked hard, hounded pucks, played fast and in straight lines. Now we look like we want to be hockey's Harlem Globetrotters and play softie hockey and I hate it. I'd rather have Mazur on the team than half our wingers, and I'll be thrilled when our "skill" guys are Berggren and Lombardi and not Kane and Tarasenko types.

The bright spots on this team are the young guys and Larkin. I'd be fine with trading our UFAs and getting a high pick if we can't turn something around by the deadline. But I don't think it's a good thing for a competitive sports organization to TRY for losing seasons. Ice the best possible team you can ice right now, and if that team continues to fail, then trade what's not nailed down and start again next year with a new cast I guess.

Nice shot by Marco on the goal there.