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If anything that made me happy. Heard nothing about how this draft is weak.

Being that it has taken until last night for most people/organization to believe it time for a rebuild, is the scary part.

With the way our players take a step or two back each season. We may as well sell now while they have any value. A year ago Jurco was worth something, today good chance he clears the wire if he already hasn't. : /

Fools gold. That's all last weekend was. Wings have a better chance of making the playoffs than Sheahan scoring at this point.

I don't think we need yet another 29, aka going on 30+ "2nd" line center. Holland would give a 5-6 year deal 5.25+ a year deal, Easy. I wouldn't doubt it for one sec.

Ah ok, I did not know this.

I am trying really hard to be with you on this. But Blashill.... he just kills any hope I have at this point. I still think they are just delaying a much needed rebuild... Today is a mix day of personal opinions and thoughts to say the least about this team and where we are at this moment. Right now I hope we finish the season on a high note, that's all I got.

Gonna do my best to be optimistic today. Agree with LeftWinger. Lets finished the season strong! Only down 1 boys!

I agree with GMRwings1983, at this very moment and the last 2-3 season Yzerman has been a better GM. I also disagree with anyone thinking Yzerman just gonna walk away from TB the sec Holland done. To me that wouldn't be the Yzerman I grow up watching. He wouldn't just leave, it would be very classless. I have no idea what his contract is or how a GM contracts work. But I cannot see him just up and leaving after all hes done in TB. Yzerman is as loyal as he is all world class. It would be a classless and dishonest move to just bounce on any contract he has with TB. If he finishes his contract in TB than comes here, that's something I can believe. Anyone know Yzerman contract with TB at this moment?

Wow.. This week / month has been rough. Mike Ilitch passing away. Along with my own personal loses. I wish he could of at least of had the chance to see his new Arena finished. Rest in peace, Mr.Ilitch.

I posted the very sentence I put in the Nielsen FA topic. Which was yet again... I feel pretty meh about the signing, We needed a top 6 center. Why do I need to post that very topic? When I already quote what I said form that topic. "funny" indeed. You assumed my "tone" change since last summer. Which I proved easily has not. I have very few posts as it is, you can easily see that easily since JUNE, my tone has not changed at all. When it comes to this team or Nielsen or Holland. I've been "scapegoating" Ken Holland since June if you go by my post history, again my "tone" has not just since last summer. At this point I am done proving myself about my own post history. Move on. Nice try.

No. No I did not. You mean this post of mine in JUNE. Pretty that's very much the same tone I have now. Or do you mean my topic about maybe going after Martin type forward, in my Lesser FA topic. Which we did, called Ott.I I don't have a single about post being happy about Nielsen. I gave it a "meh" that we needed a top 6 center. It was nothing to be happy about. I guess that means I was jumping for joy, oh boy. But nice try.

Yea I guess I can a bit. They have no problems airing dirty laundry when it comes to the Tigers when I think about it tho. Not that Holland has anything to do with the Tigers, but it's still another Major Sport team owned by Illitch.

Sorry, but we could of drafted Cychrun and still signed Helm, Vanek and Ott. What we used Datz cap space mostly on was Nielsen. I'll take Cychrun and eat Datz cap space over Nielsen at age of 32 while paying him $31.5 million, an average annual value of $5.25 million. Dman take time, everyone knows this. I don't dislike Cholowski, but the fact of the matter is we had a chance at a Dman that was top 5-10 ranked in the draft for half of last season, than dropped a little bit. And our GM blow it. Something we've not had a chance at in years on top of years. Hell I'd rather drafted Cholowski still eaten Datz cap. I see no reason for Nielsen to be on this team. Only reason he's he because Holland "had" to do something because Stamkos didn't even look our way. At least we are 6-0 in SO now right right? I don't care about hindsight or not, that contract is crap for a team in our position. We would be in the same spot we are in now even with Stamkos. We are in no position to sign vets, it's been clearly obviously to anyone without blinders on we need a real rebuild 2 years ago. Now we are 2 years behind a rebuild, but hey at least we are gonna make the playoffs because we got Nielsen, Vanek and Ott, we also sign our great home grown talent Helm!.....Now we are stick with yet another trash contact with a player that is 32 years old.

Until the day it really looks like Trashill is gonna be gone, none of this really matter. By than, with our luck all 3 will gone. Right now, I've yet to see or hear a single word that Holland or Illitch wants Trashill gone. No sarcasm , if there any real new I'd like to hear or see it.

Chances are Holland stays with Blashill. Because IT'S THE RED WING WAY!. Maybe he'll kick some tires.

I feel bad for anyone going to the games right now... So embarrassing, not even worth the price of a parking spot.

No captain any of team could make this team any better at the age of 36. Team is trash, doesn't mean Z not a good captain.

It's trash.

It's everything. Our best player is 36 years old. Our Log jag of forwards is a Log jag of floaters. Our D, what D? Our Goalies are average goalies trying to carry a less than average team. Our GM sits on his hands and kicks tires. Our scouting/draft hasn't scouted/drafted a Dman worth a damn since Krownwall, which also falls on our GM. Our coaching.....But hey, we've got a great new arena coming....

There still legitimate rivals going on. Honestly, people need to get off the Det vs Col horse rivalry. You'll never see this again, in any sport. Comparing anything to it is silly. *PIT vs WSH, is a must watch game today. Even more so for the people that want goal scoring in this very topic. *CHI vs STL, more so when STL had Backes. *Almost any combo of SJS, LA, ANA are great rivals to watch. Many others, I'm not gonna list every single rival. I'll name a few of our very own rivals that were legitimate after the Det vs Col such as... *DET vs SJS, This is one of the few rivalries I would consider we lost. *DET vs ANA from 2007-2010+ this was a great rivalry *DET vs NSH, Weber slamming Z head into the boards didn't get your blood going? I could go on, but I didn't really want to hijack the topic. I hate the non-stop moaning (not just this topic) about how there no legit playoff rivalries or rivals anymore. People seem to think only dynasty vs dynasty can be a legitimate rivals. In my opinion, the main problem is we moved from the West, we lost a bunch of good rivals, which in hindsight I wish we didn't. I can honestly say I don't think we would of made the playoffs the last 2 years if we stayed and we would already be on a real rebuild. Hell maybe even had a chance at Matthews, the very least a few top 10 picks the last 2-3 seasons. But part of that's another story.

Yep. Hard to watch.

I flat out refuse to watch it this year. I almost find it embarrassing. We are a Cap team, and the best we bring to an All Star game is Frans Flipping Nielsen. Sadly, it's not even his fault. Not that I hate Nielsen, but damn, this is really the best we can do? Sad truth to it, that we suck that bad.

Yep... Sounds about right.

Orr can be augured as the greatest player of all time. I love Lidstrom, but he's a top 3-5 Dman of all time. Not top 3 or even 5 player of all time.