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I just realized that my the first pre-season game is next week! I am pumped as I did buy tickets. Ill try to remember to take some pics and post.

IF Bowman signs Miller, will you then give an opinion? If yes, then fine...fair.

Not that I have seen. I am still crossing my fingers that his jersey is being retired opening night.

I'll be blunt, the reason why I am asking you this question is because you have said in that past that Ken Holland is a moron and that the Drew Miller signing alone proves it, and that he should be fired for signing Miller. You have also said that Stan Bowman is a genius and a great GM and have made comments about how Bowman would never make the same mistakes as Holland. So....this leads to my question that if Bowman signs Miller......what does that make Bowman. My guess is that you are avoiding the question because you don't actually think that Holland is an idiot for the Miller signing alone like your prior rants have suggested. I think that because you don't like Holland, you use anything he does as ammo to bash him as harshly and and over the top as possible. There are others in this thread that have been down on Miller and have put down Miller being re-signed, but what differentiates these posters from you is that they have evolved their opinion of Miller throughout the years as Miller has gradual declined. You have been bashing Holland to an extreme degree for signing Miller for years. You claim to not be a troll, but yet you make extreme comments all the time to get a reaction out of people. Then when you get called out you try to play the victim and call everyone mean girls and it's quite funny to see you squirm like you have in this thread. Your turn now......attempt to make yourself the victim lol.

You do know there are monuments honoring the legends all over the building right?

A person doesn't refuse to answer a question because they are laughing, they refuse to answer a question because the question upsets them. Up to you, I'm just trying to have a conversation. I can't force you to answer.

I'm not sure why my question has upset you so much. I just want to know your opinion of Bowman if he signs miller. When you calm down, I'd still like to know your opinion.

Technically we are tied for second worst odds lol, LV is above us, but has worse odds at 150/1.

Not what I asked, so I will ask again. @Jonas Mahonas So if Chicago signs Miller, does this mean Bowman is an idiot that needs to be fired?

@Jonas Mahonas So if Chicago signs Miller, does this mean Bowman is an idiot that needs to be fired?

I dont know what's worse, a person creating a fake persona on a message board and trying to push it forward 6 months after he had a hissy fit? Or, a person who really is successful seeking validation on a message board. Either way, both are sad. Just stop. Or go on another rant about how great you are, I really don't care

Exactly, and that's what made him such a great owner. He was about going all in, always trying to do what he could to make his team as great as possible. He wasnt a re-build/tank it/burn it to the ground/play the system kind of guy and I think most fans loved him for it. You can debate that mentality in a post cap world for sure, but you got to respect the guy for his desire to win. i think the system Is going to change soon, I just read yesterday that the NBA is making changes to prevent the tanking mentality.....I'm sure the NHL will be soon to do the same. I say give all teams not in the playoffs a 1/15 chance of the first pick, then the same for the second etc.

This was legit my fav cartoon as a kid!!

I call BS. If Mr. I wanted yzerman as his GM, Yzerman would have become the GM. As much power as Holland may have, he did not have more then Mr.I. Mr. I was never on board with a rebuild, it went against his nature. this was well documented when he fired the Tigers GM DD for wanting to rebuild in 2015. This is truth whether you like it or not.

Yes I know u wanted to burn it to the ground after 2012. The problem with that is as long as Mike Illitch was the owner, that was NEVER going to happen. As far as my personal views, we have had this debate 100 times on here, no need to go down that road again.

Most likely. This franchise was legitimately on top for about 20 years which in completely unheard of. Since things started to go downhill, have some questionable/bad moves been made? 100%, there is no denying that. But no management team in sports can keep a team on top forever given the cyclical nature of sports. Had Yzerman taken over and this team went downhill, fans would be screaming at the captain, and wanting Holland back. Whoever was steering the ship during the decline was going to get s*** on. As far as this video goes, I'm not going to say that there are zero relevant points, but you guys can't be serious when you say its well done. For me, his tone is way too over the top.

Sounds like a child made this.

Well, that's a bit of a stretch. If he was a legit star, we would likely not be in this mess. The fact that he's a good prospect wanting to be paid like a very good prospect is the issue.

100% agree with this.

Speaking of, anyone make the trip from Windsor?

Wow do people overrate AA. The kid is good, and I believe he has a ton of potential, but from saying he has a ceiling of 90 points to him currently being the 2nd best player on our team, people really do take it to extreme's.

You're right, I made the same mistake in a previous post. The 1.4mil number is NOT taking into consideration the "CARRYOVER BONUS OVERAGES" from last season which are $457,500.

Video of the arena

An interesting read about the situation http://www.thehockeynews.com/news/article/athanasiou-bennett-and-the-nhl-s-problem-with-arbitration-rights

Yes, 100%.