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See above Just to remind everyone, Budd Lynches voice was a recording too. They don't use it at LCA unfortunately.

The old horn isn’t loud enough for the new building. So they recorded the sound and amped it up to 3 times the volume. On opening night it wasn’t loud enough so the president of Olympia had them adjust it and now its loud as f*** and good. And it sounds exactly like the horn from the Joe. Except it’s digital because we now live in a digitalized world. It was so loud that the girl next to me dropped her fries like a dumbass. Anyways I like this idea better because they can freely change the acoustics and volume of their goal horn. “The simple truth is we wanted to bring the old horn over, and the old horn is a tiny little horn, believe it or not,” said Tom Wilson, president of Olympia Entertainment. “It just never was going to fill the volume we need.” The so-called bowl portions of the two buildings are simply too different, he said. “What we’ve got is, it’s probably triple the volume and totally different acoustics,” in Little Caesars Arena, Wilson said. “It would be more like a beep, you know? As opposed to what we’re used to. “So, we just made the decision to tape the sound, which we did over the summer, and magnify it, so it would be as close to the sound that people remember.” “I don’t notice a big difference,” he said. “I noticed on opening night, we kind of amped it up a little bit more and it was very much like the old horn to me.”

No no. FerrisBueller

FerrisBueller

But Hasek never floated away from physicality, that mfer welcomed it. Just ask Franzen

I still dont get why you havent changed your username to something else yet. Like Number93 or something

Yeah thats what I figured. The design is pretty genius.

I always felt like the other Swedes are closer to each other than Z is to them. Just going off Franzen’s instagram, Official Red Wings snapchat though. Back when Dats was still here the official red wings snapchat always showed the two of them playing soccer together alone in the locker room. Didn’t really see Swedes with em. Sometimes Kronwall used to workout with D and Z though. Franzen posts pics of E sometimes and Kronwall. Never really any pics of Z hanging out with them.

Who came up with this? Or are we thinking hypothetically?

Forgot to add: 8. Place is so clean and shiny you can eat off the floor.

Ok my quick summary of things we've been wondering about the stadium: 1. The horn is the same. Just as loud as the Joe Louis. No difference. Nada. Probably sounds different on TV for whatever reason. 2. The upper bowl seats were a bit crowded. But the view is still just as good as the Joe, if not better because it's more steep so you won't be bothered by some 7 foot 10 inch guy's head. There is a section in the upper bowl though might be partially blocked by this giant wall thing (can't really explain it). I don't know I didn't sit there but maybe they designed it so it doesn't actually block your view and it only looks that way to people not actually sitting there. 3. The stadium is state of the ******* art. I felt like I was down south in Florida or California. It really is a "district" and it's still not done yet technically. 4. They put a lot of work into this and even during the games the lighting/ lazer work and pregame videos are legit. 5. Jumbotron is ginormous. And amazing quality. 6. Stadium was probably 85% filled. Maybe 5% of the people were in the concourse but there were definitely empty seats there, moreso than at the Joe Louis Arena. I'm not sure why. 7. Helm sucks.

A lot of people were in the concourse but there were more empty seats than there should have been. Even in the upper bowl. I ate the burger. It was so good. 100% recommended.

I mean I don’t think Commodore is lying. Dats probably did his own thing on ice cause he’s a boss

Btw Nyquist totally faked that injury i felt like

Man this stadium has some fantastic signal though I have 5 full bars on my phone

THis crowd tonight is pathetic. They won’t rally to my LGW chants more than 5 secs

At the same time this guy keeps saying “Go Yzerman” so my fists are moderately confused.

It would go against the Hippocratic Oath I took 3 years ago. But alcohol can make an exception for tonight maybe.

I am pretty close to punching the Tampa fan sitting behind me.

Uber lol. I live in downtown detroit

On my way to the game right now.

It's 13th to 27th but the actual quantity is only 3% conversion. That's precisely what I'm getting at. "Kronwall was injured, Ericsson's wrist, PP was bad" Are all just narrative words we've said. Even I said it last season at times. But look at the end result doesn't seem to be much different in a lot of these cases. Even if Larkin is worse how did that actually impact the team overall? Like I said the goals for was basically the same between the seasons. Where Larkin slacked, someone else obviously picked up. The fact is the end results in overall team performance offensively and defensively between 2015/16 and 2015/17 was basically the same. Individuals may have done worse but it seems as though someone else was picking up their slack (Zetterberg, Mantha, Vanek to mention a few) to negate the effect overall. Goals for 207 vs 211. Doesn't really explain how offense was any different. We scored the same amount of goals basically. I think there's just an assumption that somehow our offense was worse because Dylan Larkin didn't do well or Sheahan didn't do well, while ignoring that Zetterberg put up 18 more points than the previous season and AA did better and Mantha and Vanek individually were new faces that added more offense.

Right but a lot of what you're saying doesn't quantify. Like yeah those players missed game or we had new faces etc. What does that mean though? Smith played 33 games but then we had Jensen and the Newbies. Did the newbies quantifiably replace what Smith would have brought in anyways? Does losing Quincey actually impact the defense? Maybe it did because DK did end up playing worse. I mean just because certain played didn't play games doesn't necessarily equate to the defense being worse because of them not playing. It's not like Smith, Marchenko are better than what we already have. And like I already said for Kronwall he may have played a fewer games overall than the year before and his point total was cut in half, but that offense was made up by others (end result of the GF for the team was about the same). But defensively his +/- was actually better. So I don't see how the situation with him was worse last year than the year before. Sure, he looked slower, even looked like he was out of position at times, but I'm not sure if that necessarily means he hampered the team moreso than the year before. One could argue that he hampered the team when he was healthier the year before. Like I've already said, there may be a few things slightly worse than the year before, and things do add up. But Mrazek was the weakest link between his two years. There's no denying that. You are as strong as your weakest link after all. The same applies to us wanting to upgrade on defense. The current fan and management mindset is that if you upgrade the defense, this team automatically becomes a cup contender. Which is probably true. So it's not fat-fetched to assume that if the 50 games played by a goalie was more consistent, we would have ended up going from 14th seed to 8th, 9th, 10th seed. I think the best example to back my theory up is the season Carey Price got injured. Montreal was the best team in the league for the longest time. As soon as he got injured they became a non-playoff team. We saw this with Giguiere and handful of other goalies over the years too.

But our goaltending had a huge drop off. Petr Mrazek went from having a 2.33 GAA and .921 % to .898 % and 3.04 GAA. That is a huge, huge difference in performance. Played around 50 games in both seasons. But then looking at Jimmy Howards numbers he actually did better. Howard had 37 games .906% 2.80 GAA two years ago and last year had 26 games .927 %, 2.10 GAA. Both goalies had the same defense in front of them. Another point to look at is our PK between the two season's were nearly identical. So can't be that. Looking at offense, both years we produced nearly identical amount of offense. (211 vs 207 goals for). PP was worse but by only 3% conversion (18% vs 15%). Maybe the extra 3% could have help bring us a bit closer to playoffs but I'm not sure if it would have gotten us in. So the glaring issue for the defense last year seems to have been their production rather than their actual defense. Looking at two seasons ago the defense scored a total of 140 points combined, whereas last year they scored 93. Looking specifically at the top dogs. Kronwall's numbers seems like he was actually worse 2 seasons ago than last season. Defensive advanced stats are worse. -21 two seasons ago, -7 last season. But his production was certainly worse last year. But that's not defense. That's offense. People who did worse defensively: Dekseyser did worse last year. Losing Quincey f***ed him hard. Green did slightly worse but then again, he was used more in a defensive role last year than the year before (where he spent 70% of the time on offensive zone faceoffs). You could argue that defense was "worse" last year but not by much. The weakest link was certainly Petr Mrazek. His GAA dropped by 1. That's pretty significant for a goalie. With the same defense in front of him, Jimmy Howard performed much better. In fact better than he did 2 years ago. There's no denying that if Mrazek was as good as he was in 2015-16 season (overall in the course of the season as an average of his numbers) this team would have been higher in the standings. Because offensively our end product wasnt worse. Sure Larkin, Abdelkader, Sheahan did worse but that slack was picked up by Zetterberg, Mantha, Vanek. Overall the offense produced identically between the two years. So what I see between the two seasons is: Overall offense = identical PK = identical PP = worse (slightly? ish?) Defense = worse (slightly) Goaltending = worse (significantly) Of course the subjective bias is, do you consider a 3.04 GAA really bad or not. I do. My conclusion is if Mrazek/Howard play consistently and have around a 2-2.5 GAA this year. We squeak into the playoffs or miss by only a tiny bit. Of course if Larkin and Mantha continue to perform as they have been then even better. But that may actually be offset by our defense. Our defense has been abysmal thus far. Then again it's only been 5 games.

Cause our goaltending is good