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Ovechkin, Crosby, Patrick Kane, Sedins, Perry many more offensive juggernauts all below average on defense. Half the guys mentioned dont even backcheck. AA has had less than 2 full seasons in the NHL. Last season he missed those 20 games or so because of the contract issue so really this was the first full season. 71 games. Converted from a natural center to winger. He doesn't need to be a two-way player. That s*** is a myth. Agree that he can continue increasing his playmaking, cycling ability. But again, not even two NHL seasons. Buppy may have become jaded now but I agree with him that a lot of people turning on this guy already is ridiculous. Z, D didn't become top 6 players till like their 3rd FULL NHL season. Everyone needs to calm down.

Because people here are still stuck in the Canadian hockey mentality that everyone has to be an amazing two-way player. I Remember I used to be like that too

He is a tool. AA looks browner than Ali Baba

Wow Don Zetterberg influencing the kids on weekends too.

What kind of Car? Like MrAZarati?

Wow what a change of tone. Remember how much s*** you gave people while supporting Mrazek? And we kept trying to tell you that he sucks but you just wouldn’t believe us.

Let me simplify it for you again. If AA was bad defensively like you claim. Then no coach would put him on a defensive situation on a penalty kill.

Except that he does play defense lol. On something called a penalty kill. Does Nyquist even know how to kill a penalty. What's interesting is this was AA's only second full season too. Nyquist has had about 5ish under his belt. A comparison being made between the two already speaks volumes for AA.

Yep. Nyquist plays with the most superior and smarter playmaker on the team. What's your point? Larkin was -9 last season. Z was the only top 6 guy that was +1. And even then Nyquist somehow managed to be in the minus. Appeal to ignorance. Logical fallacy. "AA is worse defensively because he's always floating and getting breakaways" even though statistically AA is either greater than or equal to Nyquist defensively.

I want to know if you get what I'm saying. Z gets $73 million regardless. But the organization wanted him to do it over 12 years rather than 10 to reduce his cap hit. It's the organization that cheated the system. Not Z. Z signing it is a favor he did for them.

No lol. Osgood was a diva and wanted out if they got Hasek. https://www.nytimes.com/2001/09/29/sports/hockey-islanders-stretch-budget-for-osgood.html?nytmobile=0 Unlike Howard who handled the situation well when Mrazek was given #1 spot. Zetterberg didn’t say HE signed a 12 year contract without intention of playing, he said the organization planned it that way to reduce their own cap hit and cheat the system. Z did the organization a favor to sign it that long. Whats the point of a player signing a contract 2 years longer if he’s his full pay anyways? It’s the organization that prefers to stretch those contracts to reduce cap hit; doesn’t do the player any good. But as per usual you have you anti-Z bias.

Honestly the cleanest slate of the 4 people is Zetterberg and he will likely get retired soon.

Lol two people voted Mrazek

Lol why is Mrazek even on this poll. He sucks now. He went to Philly and did worse with them.

Just watch. Datsyuk and his agent wanted a 5 year deal lol. Holland brought it down to 3 years. Imagine if it had been 5 years and Datsyuk was like "I go to Russia"

The only factual evidence you gave was "113% more likely to score on a breakaway" You could have given your peewee size and your argument would shoot up 20 times in strength. All you've said was "He sucks on defense because that's what everyone says". Well the christian church thought the earth was flat and everyone believed it but the math freaks said otherwise. From the math I provided, AA is about as good as Nyquist on defense or better. And the fact that you think him being on PK isn't because he's defensively aware and rather it's simply about his speed is roflmao. No coach in their right mind would put a "defensively liable" player on the PK. So by deduction either AA is good enough defensively to be put on the PK or Blashill is a moron.

Datsyuk was being a diva the minute he signed the contract extension in 2013. Holland basically said so himself. Kept wanting out every year since 2013 until Holland and Illitches finally gave in in 2016. Federov left after his contract ended. He never failed to honor a contract. Datsyuk wanted to walk out on a contract. What Datsyuk did was worse for the organization. Imagine if he had left as soon as he signed the contract in 2013. We would have had dead cap space for 3 years. Thankfully Holland told him to f*** off and honor it for at least 2 more years, then he would let him go on the last year. If Datsyuk's jersey is getting retired, so should Fedorov's.

Glad to see you recognizing the player that is better than Nyquist

The Red Wings ruined Smith and Jurco

Datsyuk left on worse terms.

Sack

Wonder if he'll be accused of being brain dead.

I am not portugese or spanish

No he's better than Nyquist. Mantha is one-dimensional, lazy and a floater. Plays too much poke and hope hockey.

Albert Einstein + Aristotle