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Thats why I said lite. Mantha will probably never reach Franzen's level.

Yeah, also that hes very similar to 08 cup win Brad Stuart...

Franzen Lite

My understanding was Namestnikov was projected to go sometime in the 2nd round and Yzerman reached up into the 1st to nab him. I think Holland was trading down to get namestnikov where he thought he would fall and Stevie used that oppurtunity to scoop him up. There was definately surprise when Stevie took him in the 1st, but it made sense after the fact since Yzerman had a previous connection to the kid.

Ah yes, it's the Rangers GM that deserves praise here, clearly

With the rumors of TBL scouting us, and us scouting TBL, I'm a little hesitant to trade with Yzerman again, and I hope Holland is too. I thought Holland was clever at the time to use Yzerman to pull Quincey out of Colorado, but Yzerman ended up with the last laugh when KFQ turned out to be bunk. Stevie basically swapped Downie for a 1st, which was a pretty schrewd movie. He then used that first on Vasilevsky. We were also rumored to be gunning for Namestnikov at the 2013 draft because he grew up around the organization. Yzerman, who was in that organization and knew a lot about this kid, was then able to get him a few picks ahead of us. We ended up with plan B: youtube star Jurco. Imagine if we had had Namesntkov and Vasilevsky instead of Quincey and Jurco right now. I'm hesitant to do business with Yzerman, I hope Holland learned his lesson of beware the padawan by now.

That trade and contract looks really bad on Gorton and his team right now. You know perfectly well they knew it was his birthday today. This was not just a demotion off the team, it was a personal F U to Smith from management. By the sounds of it Smith never took his job seriously in NYR. Which makes you wonder how much he was applying himself during his time here. It's been widely known for a long time Smitty wasn't the brightest bulb...

What's the methodology here?

Yeah all those numbers you just quoted to KrSmith are wrong too lol NHL.com isn't wrong, you just don't understand or know how to interpret their run report function in stats. Just one example: He's not 75th in goals this year. He's tied for 60th - 77th. Your passing off fake numbers. A 6 year old could figure that out.

Ah that clears up your suspect methodology "put in years, combine stats, imagine totals" Well then you're dumber than a 6 year old, cause your numbers are wrong lol

First off, I morally disagree with the entire concept of ranking or judging a player solely on numbers (especially a Dman), but even more so I disagree with using season stat totals (How do you consider GP?). Did you really collect 8 rankings on 180+ Dmen over the last 3.5 seasons and do all the math on all of them? Average all of them? That's over 5,000 data points were talking. How and why did you calculate a half season? Did you collect stats on 180+ Dmen for the last 41 games of the season? That's a super weird number to find, did you have to go through game-by-game stats to get to the right number? Or are you referring to the 54 games played this season? I have so many questions, which along with your reputation for making up numbers, gives me the suspicion you're not being entirely accurate here. Among NHL Dmen, Faulk's ranking starting with this year and working back 5 seasons to the 2013/14 season: I used "top" numbers because most of these stats involve a large number of ties. This eliminates that potential to swing the ranking either up or down for the most part. Goals: Top 77, Top 4, Top 9, Top 10, Top 90 (2013/14) Assists: Top 56, Top 66, Top 58, Top 20, Top 39 Points: Top 59, Top 37, Top 33, Top 12, Top 45 TOI/G: Top 52, Top 32, Top 21, Top 16, Top 34 Hits: Top 40, Top 50, Top 64, Top 35, Top 91 Blocks: Top 97, Top 131, Top 160, Top 74, Top 94 Giveaways: Top 21, Top 86, Top 79, Top 46, Top 54 Takeaways: Top 5, Top 8, Top 10, Top 2, Top 15 But what else can be learned? Assuming your counting this season as the half season... how did you get to the numbers you reached? When averaged for the *3.65* seasons: 7th in goals: More like top 25 37th in assists? More like top 50 25th in points? More like top 35 22nd in TOI/G? More like top 30 34th in hits? More like top 47 100th in blocked shots? More like top 115 42nd in giveaways? More like top 58 3rd in takeaways? More like top 6 Now I just did the lazy way and averaged the averages. If you are putting in the work and have a better method please let me know and I'll hush up. Some numbers you appear to be close on, and others a lot farther off. I honestly can't tell if your being malicious or just negligent, but your findings/numbers aren't accurate. Regardless of all that, based on my numbers, it paints the picture of a top 50 Dman. And I was really impressed by the number of takeaways this man is getting each year. Disclaimer: CRL does not believe any of these numbers accurately reflect Justin Faulk as a player

Jeff Gorton on Smith: "We've done some different things to try to get him going and he just hasn't played that well" In laymen terms: "Ye he blows lmao my b" Its hillarious because this is one of the most lopsided trade wins weve seen in the league in a while and we were the ones on the winning end. Weird feeling. Trade wins of this magnitude usually take many years to play out. But in less than a year its clear we traded dead cap weight for a very high 2nd and a 3rd. Big win for us. The fact that Ottawa sucks this year and we have their 2nd is just a sweet sweet cherry on top. IMO Holland deserves some big credit for this one.

NYR is the biggest threat to our tank. Of all years to blow up the team and trade off assets they hadddddd to pick this one. Green was the only big name Dman on the market, which should drive his price up... but now McDonagh may be available as well. f*** the Rags.

Impressive finger strength by Mantha...

HBD Brendan. Good luck in Connecticut.

Poor Kindl, no one ever cared

Were pretty good at drafting forwards actually. If you hadn't noticed, we haven't drafted a decent Dman since Kronwall.

Talking to Rags fans... Apparently he got married this summer, has been partying in NYC a lot, and showed up to camp completely obese. I wonder if he's loaned his ID to any teletubbies recently...

Holy s*** guys, it's Brendan's birthday today too lol Sather is giving him the F U

The buyout penalty is 1.3 million for 6 years lol I'm going to enjoy seeing that on their books

Yeah they're looking to blow up the whole team now, which is the end result of constantly making moves for the sake of making moves

Oh nice so we got Zach Gallant and a top 40 pick for a player that is actively hurting another team lol Faith in Holland restored

You really tried to ram it down our throats

These posts did not age well

People say Holland can't trade, but he deserves a ton of credit for this one. He managed to sell basically a useless player for a 2nd and a 3rd. Handing out big contracts to McDonagh's buddies last year is really gonna bite NYR in the rear lol. And now they're listening to offers on McDonagh too lol