LeftWinger

There are no more "bridge deals." Looks like we're in for another lockout come CBA expiration.

In related news, Nic Hague has been sent to minors by Vegas. crow....yuck!

Speaking of D, the Isles have sent Noah Dobson back to junior.

By the time Yzerman is here, most bad contracts will be gone. Yzerman or not, IMO Abby isn't going anywhere. I can maybe see Nielsen waiving his NTC to go to a Contender or back to The Isle to be their top C. But unless Holland does something stupid, like extend all the upcoming (or re-sign them) with bug raises, Yzerman won't have too many bad contracts to dump.

So there are 4 spots going to kids. I believe Rasmussen has more than passed his audition. It's gonna be a close race between Zadina and Svech. On D, with all the talk of Hronek being the front runner, honestly I think Cholowski has been the one to earn the guaranteed spot on D. With Greens issue, it may not be a bottom 6 role either. He's done very well and there's no reason why he couldn't be top 4. The other D spot, IMO, is still up for grabs. It's a 3-way race between Hicketts, Hronek and Sulak. Back up front, if Frk is not ready to go, that opens up a 3rd forward spot to start the season. Come Oct, we could be looking at Ras, Svech, Zadina, Cholowski and Hicketts all on the roster. Not to mention if Kronners knees cause him problems this year.

I don't know how Tippett is doing in Florida, but when Ras is contributing to this team this year and actually proving he was the right choice, my new Nick name will be Crow-Daddy!

Mike Green is out indefinitely. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/red-wings-green-indefinitely-virus-attacked-liver/sn-amp/

Like father like son. Re: Domi Now Re: Green Are we gonna have even more LTIR available if needed? Cholowski and Sulak( or Hronek) to start the season?

Hypothetical question: Detroit wins lottery, Vancouver wants that pick so the Hughes Bros. can be their stars. What is a real offer and what would you expect from them? Obviously their 1st round is included. I'd want too much in return! Boeser, Horvat, Woo and 2019 1st, 2nd, 2020 1st. Or I'd see what they want to get Quinton on our team to play with Jack! I am sure they'd want a ton in return!

I really don't understand the holdup in Vegas re-signing Theodore. They have over $9M in cap available. Maybe it's term, but at the very least give him 1 year at a nice raise and try again next summer for a long term deal. If not, trade him to us! We've got a nice supply of "VETS" to help them get back to the Finals!

The difference is, they have $13M in cap space ATM. When Larkin signed, it put us well over the cap. That, I blame on Holland. He has too many overpaid, under performing players. It most definitely helps that we are able to utilize plenty of LTIR. Also, losing the contracts of Nyquist, Howard and maybe more helps a ton for next season.

I'm still going with Z2, Ras, and Hronek making the team out of camp. Svech and Cholowki the first IR call ups. With the way the lines have been, and Blshill's "60 mins of hell" comment, I am not so confident on line combos though. He's probably going to go with A grinder on all the lines...great.

If not Jack Hughes, then Broberg. If we do not the #1 OA and the franchise player, we need to draft for need. We need high end D. Broberg is that D. Then sign Karlsson. Here is TSN's top 20 at the moment: (warning, not good on phones! Sorry in advance!) https://www.tsn.ca/hughes-leads-the-pack-in-tsn-hockey-s-pre-season-draft-ranking-1.1172382

I honestly think the $5.4M is closer to being correct. Before they signed Larkin, that's about what they had by factoring in just Franzen's LTIR. Z and Larkin are pretty much a wash, so it should be somewhere in that range. I think what happens is they only use what they need. Even though Z and Franzen's cap equals almost $10M, if, let's say the three kids salary equals $3M, that's all the LTIR we'll show being used and it'll also still only show $0 in available cap.

That's gonna be a line in Detroit from what I've been reading. Sounds electric.

Weird how the LTIR works. I go to capfriendly.com, use the Armchair GM mode to make a team. I place Z on LTIR 1st, then Franzen, it gives me an available cap of $1.14M, I place Franzen on LTIR 1st, then Z and it gives me an available cap of $5.4M. Obviously Holland will do it in the right order or he won't be able to promote but ONE player from GR. Then, after I promote Zadina, Ras and Hronek I am left with $2.8M. BUT if I promote them FIRST then LTIR Z and Franzen, in that order, I am left with $3.6M cap......so crazy! If I promote them first and only LTIR Z, I am at $0 cap space, so I don't even have to put Franzen on LTIR to be compliant. Strange rules! And yes, I am using LTIR PRO Mode.

I guess im a pretty brave macho warrior , or a stupid one. I drive from the Manistee area every week to work....in Detroit. Once there, once back, every week, for the last 6 years. Bring on the snow!

Already?

This is great! Meh, like I said, doesn't matter really. He is signed, Z is retired. I don't want to turn this thread into a Larkin discussion. I'm happy for both. Z will be missed, much like all of our past Red Wings.

It's not impossible to think there was two offers. But nevermind. None of it matters because all along Z was done. Fact. Ya, that didn't sound right when i read it, oh well. My position is known.

You'd of lost.

Rest easy, we watched Yzerman for more years and never got to see him score 700 goals, when we all wanted him to play another season to do so. We'll get over it and watch the new Captain get 1000 points (or very close to it.) Its time for the kids. You can believe what you want, but they are indeed related. Larkin had said he wants a contract that doesn't hurt the team. Why on Earth would he allow his contract to put the team over the cap (If Z was playing) and force them to make the team worse by handcuffing them? I fully believe there were two contract offers on the table he was going to sign, one with Z, one without. There is nothing anyone can say that can deter me from that. Larkin wanted to sign a deal that allowed them to ice a team that would be better, not make them waive or trade someone. Anyhow, you will think otherwise and I can see your point too, but you refuse to even think for a moment that my theory has ZERO possibility. Thats fine, I can respect that. Doesn't mean you or I am correct.

Zadina will be up if it comes down to him or Svech. It'll be Z, Ras, Hronek.

I don't recall saying that for 3 years. Kronwall maybe, Z, I don't think so. It's time to move forward. At least he'll probably still be around the team in an "advisory role."