LeftWinger

It's in the link I posted, but here is the comment on Vanek, just saying that his signing makes a little more sense now, if indeed Hank may be done. Also earlier in the article it states that team doctors are not ready to clear him yet. That is why I posted links to what I read.

My thoughts exactly. Maybe he doesn't want to play for any of these teams that are willing to trade for him now (with the extension in place and Bobby Ryan.) At the deadline, Ottawa could turn him for at least a knights ransom, instead of a kings, to a contender who just wants that rental for a Cup run, at the TDL someone could take on Ryan's contract as well, when they have more cap room available. I, for one, do not want to trade for him, but would love to offer him the world in July to finish his career here in Little Sweden...but, by then, we'll be more of a Michigan Mafia.

Maybe Hronek forces Jensen to be 7th D. If Hronek makes the club, it won't be to be 7th D, that I agree with. But if Blashil "wants" him there to run the PP, then he won't be 7th D. That'll make Jensen to rotate with someone. We can't keep saying the kids are ready, then send them to GR and believe that's a positive thing. Zadina anywhere but Detroit is not a positive. (not saying it he won't be in GR, because that is typical Holland(spout off about promotions, change and deserving kids, but demote them anyhow,) its just not a positive thing.) I agree that the Vanek signing was a huge indicator that Holland is almost certain Z is done. What may happen is Zadina and Z start in the AHL/NHL respectively and then by December Z can't go anymore and Zadina is here for good. That is a more sensible scenario than Z being done outright already. But it does concern met that the team doctors are not able to say he is clear to play as of yet. Anyhow, we'll see soon enough! If Z can play, he'll play his heart out until he cannot play anymore.

Don't get me wrong, I don't want him to go. If he plays, that just means we'll have to waive Frk and we should still be good cap-wise if we can get Larkin to a friendly bridge deal.

I believe that Hronek has passed Hicketts on the ladder. From things I have read, that is what I feel.

http://detroitsportsrag.com/dsr-sources-henrik-zetterberg-headed-to-ltir/ https://971theticket.radio.com/articles/report-red-wings-prepared-potentially-lose-zetterberg I guess until it happens, it happens, but everywhere you look, Z is done...I mean there are some older articles floating around out there saying that he and Kronwall vow to play another season, but they say "injuries allowing." I guess he could still play one more season, but I don't like what I am hearing all over the place...and from legit sources too! When Kahn and some guys on TSN doubt it, then it could have some water to it...

To play devils advocate, maybe that is the holdup in any trades going down, Karlsson want to become a UFA next July, maybe he doesn't want to get traded already signed. It's quite possible that he has a team or two that he wants to play in and he just doesn't want to signed a deal with any of these teams that are willing to give up the ransom to have him this year. You never know... maybe we'll be looking at DD selling his #65 come July 2019. I mean, do you think he'd take one and stay in Ottawa for his last season in order to get to UFA? Obviously there is no team going to pay a ransom for a one year rental. Maybe he could get dealt at the TDL for a playoff run for a contender.

Come on D-Boss, give us that bridge deal! Remove Franzen and (ugh) Z from the lineup and that makes Frk and Witko the healthy scratches giving way to Zadina and Rasmussen! I love this deal for Mantha. It's a win-win for both parties. He'll get 30 goals in both of these years, then get his payday. Larkin will become our leader (once he signs) and then get his payday in two years as well! All while Ras and Zadina are still on ELC's, then will come their bridge deals! Ok, ok, slow down...great deal for Mantha, lets get Larkin done and move on with a trade for a defender.

Carpenter Bees! They may not sting, but those annoying things just keep coming back year after year after year tearing up your deck!

$3.3M is a steal! Let's get Larkin for $4M now! I like all these 2 year deals, gives us room until big contracts fall off!

Ya, but if, as you guys say, he just hangs at center ice and waits for a pass before scoring a breakaway goal, we'd have seen some in the video.

Odd, I don't see a lot of hanging around center ice doing nothing... I do see a lot of hard earned goals and his lightning quick speed leaving all-star defenders in the dust or looking for their jocks after he fights through them our dekes around them though... Karlsson and Ekblad got owned by AA. Welcome back AA! Glad to have you! Nice to see you! Don't let these haters bring your game down. That being said, if he were to bring us Trouba, I'd understand the trade.

Despite my initial reaction to Berggren, I'm kinda hoping he makes the club within 2 seasons.

No, he was drafted as a center and has played it from time to time here.

I was just gonna say, damn, how many players are they going to have to trade in order to fit Karlsson under the cap!?!?

But he is a natural center, so maybe that is why his instincts are to not go into the corners and battle all the time. Maybe that is why he does every so often and loses battles sometimes. He'll get there.

Yes, Hicketts has one more year left of waiver exemption. https://www.capfriendly.com/waivers-calculator/joe-hicketts#results

Veleno

Ya, I really thought he was going to be great here.

Ya, I was just mentioning players who may be asked about come TDL other than Vanek (or Green.)

Thankd for all the info! I love the lines! That top line has points written all over It! Heck so do the 2nd and 3rd! It's pretty telling when the Wings inside man is not counting on Z being there. Oh well, guess no 1000 points for him. He had a great career. Seems too short. Btw, shouldn't this all this talk be in the 2018 rebuild thread?

Meh, there's no need to trade him this time. Like NEO said above, well get our picks for Nyquist and Howard...maybe even Ericsson or Daley. Heck, even Nielsen is on a M-NTC now. The names Helm and Glendening are always mentioned by teams as well. Of course we aren't trading all of them, but if Holland can get a 1st for Nyquist, a 3rd for Howard and let's say a 2nd for Daley, we'd be looking good for the 2019 draft.

Wtf? It's like one of those Mark Dice interviews! Can't wait for him to give props to Rosa Parks for not giving up her seat on the team bus on her way to becoming the first Female goalie to play the NHL.

We're gonna have 5 kids in this year's line up. We need the vets. We wanna compete for the playoffs. We need to get younger and faster and bigger and harder to play against.