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In the final picture, it is nice to get something for the guy when he was going to leave UFA after not being qualified, but ya, before we had to settle for that result, the problem should have been addressed a long time ago. IMO, they should've traded Jimmy 2 seasons ago, but instead they handled the situation like bumbling idiots. Remember back when Hasek retired, we signed CuJo, then Hasek came back and that screwed everything up! What should've been a great experience for CuJo and us fans, turned out to be probably the worst experience CuJo could've had in his career! I mean we had him playing in the minors for pete's sake! I'm sure relations between those two became just as dicey as the relationship between Mrazek and Howard.

Dang I thought it was going to fire up today! Sure felt like it for a minute there! Oh well!

...wait GM's don't trade 5 or 6 roster players, right?

Top Jimmy to CAL for the Tank? Treliving isn’t a fan of rentals, giving up prospects they’ve tried to develop, and the few draft picks that they have. Flames sources don’t think Smith’s return is imminent, though Treliving remains optimistic.

Uh oh...

Hey looked it worked again! at least this time! Trying again to see if I got it to work! YAAAAAAA!!!!!

crud, thats what I do, not working correctly for me....oh well!

http://mynhltraderumors.com/nhl-rumors-toronto-maple-leafs-matt-martin-new-york-islanders/2018/02/23/ Would you trade disney.com for Matt Martin? BTW, what are you copying to paste the tweet that way? I cannot get it to work...

You may be on to something. I know its Eklund, but he seems to be under the impression that the two are linked and will happen together...again, its Eklund, so....still its great to be having some rumors!

TSN's Trade Bait Board The Top 45 Trend Player Pos Age Cap Hit GP G PTS Years Clause 1. Erik Karlsson, OTT RD 27 $6.5M 54 5 42 1 M-NTC 2. Rick Nash, NYR LW 33 $7.8M 60 18 28 UFA M-NTC 3. Mike Green, DET RD 32 $6M 57 6 29 UFA NTC 4. Derick Brassard, OTT C 30 $5M 58 18 36 1 M-NTC 5. Patrick Maroon, EDM LW 29 $1.5M 57 14 30 UFA 6. Evander Kane, BUF LW 26 $5.25M 61 20 40 UFA 7. Mark Letestu, EDM C 33 $1.8M 58 8 19 UFA 8. Mike Hoffman, OTT LW 28 $5.19M 60 16 39 2 M-NTC 9. Ryan McDonagh, NYR LD 28 $4.7M 49 2 26 1 M-NTC 10. Mats Zuccarello, NYR RW 30 $4.5M 60 10 43 1 11. Zack Smith, OTT C/LW 29 $3.25M 46 5 17 3 M-NTC 12. Tomas Plekanec, MTL C 35 $6M 60 6 24 UFA 13. Thomas Vanek, VAN LW 33 $2M 60 16 40 UFA 14. Max Domi, ARI C/LW 22 $1.36M 60 4 26 RFA 15. Jack Johnson, CBJ LD 31 $4.35M 60 3 8 UFA 16. Derek Ryan, CAR C 31 $1.45M 58 11 26 UFA 17. Max Pacioretty, MTL LW 29 $4.5M 60 16 35 1 18. Jeff Skinner, CAR LW 25 $5.73M 60 20 37 1 NMC 19. Alex Galchenyuk, MTL LW 23 $4.9M 60 12 34 2 20. J-G Pageau, OTT C 25 $3.1M 56 8 20 4 21. Luke Glendening, DET C 28 $1.8M 48 8 14 3 22. Ryan Hartman, CHI RW 23 $863K 55 8 24 RFA 23. Boone Jenner, CBJ C 24 $2.9M 53 5 17 RFA 24. Andrew Shaw, MTL C/RW 26 $3.9M 43 10 19 4 25. Jordan Kyrou, STL C/RW 19 $894K 0 0 0 3 Slide 26. Robby Fabbri, STL LW 22 $1.1M 0 0 0 RFA 27. Johnny Oduya, OTT LD 36 $2M 51 4 8 UFA M-NTC 28. Gustav Nyquist, DET RW 28 $4.75M 60 16 28 1 NTC 29. Aaron Dell, SJS G 28 $625K 25 2.71 .912 UFA 30. Jon Gillies, CGY G 24 $725K 2 4.35 .815 RFA 31. Bobby Ryan, OTT LW 30 $7.25M 40 7 21 4 M-NTC 32. Matt Hunwick, PIT LD 32 $2.25M 35 3 7 2 33. Benoit Pouliot, BUF LW 31 $1.15M 56 11 15 UFA 34. Josh Leivo, TOR LW 24 $613K 12 1 3 1 35. Tommy Wingels, CHI RW 29 $750K 54 7 12 UFA 36. Tomas Tatar, DET LW 27 $5.3M 59 16 27 3 37. Blake Comeau, COL RW 31 $2.4M 56 10 22 UFA 38. Ben Hutton, VAN LD 24 $2.8M 50 0 6 1 39. Matt Cullen, MIN C 41 $1.7M 58 6 15 UFA 40. Nic Petan, WPG C 22 $863K 12 1 1 RFA 41. Robin Lehner, BUF G 26 $4M 45 2.92 .911 RFA 42. Mike Cammalleri, EDM RW 35 $1M 52 5 22 UFA 43. Xavier Ouellet, DET LD 24 $1.25M 36 0 4 1 44. Danny DeKeyser, DET LD 27 $5M 43 4 7 4 NTC 45. Tyson Barrie, COL RD 26 $5.5M 46 6 36 2

If this is what they're talking for a return for McDonagh, then why are we talking that we should just expect 1 asset or a couple of lower round picks for Green? Green has 3 more points than McDonagh with the difference being McDonagh has one more year on his contract. So we don't get three or four pieces, but two for sure, starting with a 1st should not be a question.

Reading on various Twitter accounts that OTT is flipping Cole back to the Metropolitan division. No teams named...

Quite a haul for Brassard. NHL Player, prospect AND a 1st round pick in 2018? Nice! Nyquist and Tatar have 10 and 11 points less, wonder what we could get now? I sure hope someone is interested! I know O and D are complete different apples, but could this bode well for the return on Mike Green?

https://twitter.com/PierreVLeBrun/status/967123628696338432 WTF? I cannot get these tweets to show up properly!!!

Here is a nice read. https://www.detroithockey.net/news/2018/02/23/final-thoughts-on-petr-mrazek/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Well, there one UFA down:

If we want to be players in the JT sweeps, or luck out and sign him, they will be just a cap dump, with very little return. But I think we'd survive.

We have ZERO need to move Glenny. His cap does not and will not hurt us in the future, he is our best faceoff man, kills a lot of penalties and is relied upon to shutdown top players on some nights. To me, a 3rd, 4th or 5th is not worth trading him. I am not so sure Turgeon is ready to step in and replace Luke as of yet. Besides a 3rd round pick from a top 5 team, which is where Toronto sits ATM, is basically a 4th rounder and the 5th they offered, yep a high 6th! Insult! I feel the ONLY reason we accept anything less than a 2nd is if we were actively trying to get rid of him for cap reasons or personal reason (Mrazek) which we are not, so if Toronto feels they need what Luke brings, and we all know how much Babcock loves him, then they better ante up or he's not for sale. Like mentioned, his cap is not hurting us now, nor will it be hurting us throughout his contract. With the $12.8M plus Franzen LTIR (TTL $16.7M) we'll have plenty of money for ALL our RFA's plus enough to offer Green a lower returning salary (if he wants to.) IF we sign JT and find ourselves behind the Cap 8-Ball, then we will have to shed salary in the form of Nyquist/Tatar/Abby/Helm for example and we will be dealing from a point of weakness with the returns not even getting us a 3rd, at least not without conditions.

I guess his point was if he we are to believe all the hype (I'm not saying its unwarranted) that he is ready to take over all the NHL records for D-men (much like KRS was saying about Hyped up more than Potvin BEFORE the draft) then why on Earth is he not playing 20-30 minutes in every game? re: open ice hitter, if Dahlin IS all the hype, and will be Lidstrom/Karlsson hybrid machine, I really could care less if he open ice hits on my team. I'll find a defense partner to do that stuff for him! If he bulks up too much in order to withstand the open ice hits with 225lb beasts, he may lose some of the skating ability. I still take him #1, as I believe all 31 teams would as well, but Woodsy does bring up an interesting question. And maybe it is just a egotistical coach who didn't want the Gold medal in the hands of 17 year old...shame on him!

He's also at a 58% FO% which is good for top 10 in the league. I am not saying that Luke has more fair market value than Tatar or Nyquist, but when a team calls you and asks for a specific player because they NEED what that player brings, it raises his personal value. Again, in the hypothetical situation that we need to, if we are in a position to where we want to shed cap, then we'd be calling teams asking them to take payers from us, and that in turn, lowers their return value because we need to trade them. In a case like this only would Luke's value possibly garner a better return because he is wanted for his specific skill set rather than us just trying to dump him for whatever we can get...Like Mrazek. Outside of possibly driving the price up for Tatar/Nyquist because teams are calling for them, if we are up against the cap come off season and need to dump, we are in a position of weakness at that time. If a team is feinding after someone we have and don't necessarily want to deal, you better come in with an offer better than a 5th round pick. Hell, look at when we traded for KFQ, Holland felt he really needed this guy on our team for specific reason and he had to pay up to get him. In no ******* reality in this universe is KFQ, a run of the mill left handed average d-man worth a 1st round pick, unless some GM feels that he fills an absolute specific need and/or hole on the team. Honestly to this day, I still cannot figure out what the f*** hole was so deep that we had to give a 1st round pick for KFQ!

I guess I am just wondering why his name hasn't been mentioned by any insiders or teams asking about him. He is a player with a +6 stat on a team that is a -20 goal differential. Plus he's been a heck of a lot better in other aspects of the game than he has been.

Speaking of the salary dump. The only reason we may want to dump salary is if Holland wants to run at JT or JVR for example. We have $12.8M in cap right now for next season. Which could be as high as $16.7M with Franzen's salary 100% on LTIR, even more if the cap goes up some. That should be plenty enough to re-sign ALL our RFA's, including Coreau as backup to Jimmy, maybe sign a mid-tier UFA (like we did with Witko) PLUS bring Green back on a lessor contract. But then we'd have basically the exact same team, maybe worse with the goaltending situation. Holland had said that he feels that he needs to clear some cap space before July 1, so that puts us in the position of need, so again, we may be forced to accept less than market value to attain our goal. But no, you are right, if we remain status quo we have no pressing need to clear cap, if we want to have a similar team as this year with no chance at making the team better via UFA, we can keep our guys and not have to clear cap in order to re-sign out important RFA's.

I agree that we don't NEED to dump salary, unless Holland is setting up for a run at JT (which why wouldn't he) and yes Tatar and Nyquist shoud, on an even market, bring back a higher return than Glenny. BUT As stated, if we are clearing cap for a reason, then it is OUR need to move some higher paid players, which means, we may be forced to accept less than market value in order to move the money. Sure if a team is hot on one of them (like we heard NSH may be) then ya, we should get a higher return. But if we are trading them for OUR benefit (cap space) then we'd have to get what we could get, because the prize in that exchange would be the cap space cleared rather than the asset received. Again though, in the case of disney.com, they called us, we weren't/aren't actively trying to get rid of him, Toronto obviously was very interested in the specific set of skills that Luke brings to the table, PLUS they are inter-divisional, they should have to pay up to our price, IF they are that interested in prying him away from us. If not, we keep him, because he is worth more to this team now and the future than a 5th round pick that may or may not ever see the NHL.

My point is, we don't need to move or are shopping Luke. He is a very important player on our team. He is a RH'd defensive minded center, PK'er, shutdown player that is sought after this time of year. If someone is calling us asking for his availability, then they better have an offer we cannot refuse because we have no pressing need to trade him. A 5th was insulting and a 2nd from a top 6 team is basically a very high 3rd, so IMO, no it's not over-payment from someone who feels they need him for his specific assets he brings.

Last night, Paul Woods made a very interesting point with regards to Dahlin. He said that you cannot believe all the hype you hear about these young players. He mentioned that if this kid is the hands down best defenseman that Sweden has, then why, in a tourney that has zero NHL caliber players, why has he only logged 4:36 of total icetime at the Olympics. He only played 1 game, and he only played 4:36 total. He was not saying he stinks or he may not be all the hype, but his point, and it was a very good one, was, if he is having some issues in the Olympics where there are no NHL players, then he may not be so NHL ready to lead a franchise because the NHL is the highest/fastest/best league in the world and even a kid with all that potential and hype still needs to learn the NHL game and learn how to play at its speed. Again, not saying that he is not all that the hype is touting, but Woods really does have a good point. If he is hands down the best Swedish D-man, then why is there other Swedish D-men playing in every game in the Olympics and he was stuck at 1 game w/only 4:36 icetime?