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That's probably why it seems like they're getting off cheap. They don't pay 4th liners $3M-$5M dollars or backup goalies $5M or bottom pair D $4M. Or career 13th forwards $1M-$2M. That's the issue. We have a higher payroll than all of last year's playoff teams minus Toronto...and we still need two forwards. Time to dump if you ask me...bring up hungry kids who play over their salary, not entitled crap that play 1/8 of their salary. Fire sale!

Actually there is a difference. One you're just looking at tires, the other you're kicking them.

There's a bit of a difference between "has interest in" and "will pursue." I think Holland will go hard after him. He's tired of losing out on these young UFA's.

YAY! I knew Holland wouldn't let me down again! I love when I predict something and it happens! Not saying that he'll sign here, but out of the blue I just posted the first post saying (hoping really) that Holland make a run at him! Yippee! At least we'll try!

Funny, I heard that same thing from my buddy at work who plays pickup hockey with a Wings trainer, Russ. But I didn't want to say anything about as to avoid any of the old "uncles, neighbor's, dentists, dog sitters, cousin stuff" but it's nice to see others are hearing it too!

I'm hoping Holland lands Butcher. He would be a great start to our D rebuild. In 5 years: Butcher - Cholowski Hronek - Saarijarvi Dekeyser - Adams Webb

If he looks at us as a chance to be a top 2 guy, getting all the ice time he wants and eventually getting the money he wants, we should be high on his list. I think hecould step right in this season and take a spot from someone. He would be a great compliment to Green. I doubt Kenny will call them though, He does like his team where it's at. Unfortunately for us... If we could just rid ourselves of Kronwall and Ericsson, their constant injuries, but loyal GM, are leaving us out of many opportunities to upgrade our D. If those two were gone, our D wouldnt be any worse and then we could seriously make a pitch to a player like Butcher. If our GM was agressive, he would, and then cut cap with a buyout or two or waivers or salary retention. Someone would take E for future considerations with retained salary.

If we could land this guy, it might just be worth waiver Sproul and Russo.

He's not very stealthy is he?

Here's a nice little bit.

Ok, here's our opportunity to pick up our potential top defender. Sign this guy and just cut your losses with another defender.

Basically if we're out of the playoffs, one of the goalies has to be moved, one of Nyquist/Tatar, Mike Green, and I'd still try my hardest to deal E. Wouldn't it be great to get a 1st for Green, a 1st for Tatar/Nyquist and a 1st for a Goalie? BTW, I highly doubt Coreau clears waivers this year, although with only 22 players on the roster after AA is signed, maybe they'll carry 3 goalies for a bit. IF they can get some cap relief.

Off season moves? I'm still waiting and hoping for an impactful move. Everyday I hope to see a trade pop up. I am not happy with this team at the moment. Too much salary, not enough talent. AA still not signed, still not enough cap to give him what he's earned or bring up a 13th forward. Everyone in the organization is insisting that Kronwall will NOT be on LTIR. Neither will Ericsson and Sproul is now skating. I understanf your guys argument for keeping our players and not shedding cap, but I just feel that we'd be better off without a few overpaid guys and bring up some yoots. But who am I kidding, Holland left Ericsson, Kronwall, Helm, Glenny, Mrazek, Sheahan unprotected and Vegas took Tomas flippin Nosek. I guess I cannot expect a trade when we cannot even give a player away...We're doomed this season, lets hope there's a silver lining in a #1 pick overall and a firesale at the Deadline for more picks....maybe a couple extra 1st's.

Holland didn't fire Blashill, I'm thinking, because Kenny only has thus year left. Why fire Blashill and search for a new coaching staff just to have the new GM next year have to search for his own coaching staff. If it is indeed blashs last year, then If we miss the playoffs, both GM and coaching staff will move on.

Does the rest of the team play like their payroll?

I'd do this in a heartbeat. But not sure Winnipeg would

apparently @detroitredwings dont like when you tell them Holland is a retard needs to be fired. They report you to Twitter. Too funny!

70-90 points given top minutes.

He will be one of our future stars. I find it funny that folks think he's not. It's not like Pulk, he's proven he can score in the NHL. Given top 6 minutes he will score more. If he is involved in a trade, it'll be a trade we'll eventually lose.

Holland is not that smart. No. If Holland trades AA it'll be for a 35 year old defenseman. Holland can't make a move to save his life, if he does, he f***s it all up. AA should already be as untouchable as Mantha.

f*** you Holland. This is a perfect example of why he has no clue. The NHL has passed him up. He is horrible at everything. Keep thinking he'll make this cap situation work. He'll either insult AA with a $900K offer or he'll pay him $2M and waive players in hopes they sneak through. This guy is dumber than Homer Simpson. I was right not to trust him with a top 10 pick, I'll never trust him with a #1. He can't make a trade to save his life, so don't hold your breath that he'll even attempt to acquire a top defender. He still believes that E coming back is our fix on D. E should've been gone 2 years ago, Helm should've NEVER been re-signed, Abby shouldn't be above $2.5M, Glenny is a $800K player...ugh, this just pisses me off that he hasn't been fired.

Ya, Kenny has some rounds of golf to play.

According to Custance, Detroit not going to use buyout option. Also says nothing imminent in the AA negotiations. But hey, we got Helm.

A top 2 defenseman comes right to the NHL, he doesn't spend any time in the A. We need to trade for one or draft him in the top 5. I am very reluctant to trade AA. So I'm not sure how we'll get it done. But you don't develop a top defenseman, you develop 2-7.

I do like that there's no NTC/NMC. He can still be flipped at a deadline.