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In order: Patrick, Tippett, Vilardi. Then maybe Mittelstadt. All four of those before Hischier or Liljegren. If we're trading a top 3 pick down in the draft, I hope means we're acquiring a defenseman in return. If we're just trading down because Holland wants an experimental type player off the radar, then ya, pissed I will be. If he selects Liljegren or Hischier with at least any of my top three left on the board, yes, I will be pissed. And to answer my question, if he just goes off the board with a #3 and drafts a player out of left field, I'll go crazy. That's when he need to be tarred, feathered and fired. If we're also trading up to the bottom of the 1st, I'm hoping for Hague. If we get the #5 or #6 and my top three are gone, drafting Liljegren or Hischier is fine. Although in that situation, then I think I'd rather trade down and get Hague. FWIW, just because we're fans and they have nhl jobs doesn't mean that we aren't knowledgeable or capable of judging talent. I can list a few folks here and some who I know personally that if they got the job these scouts have, they could be damn good scouts in the nhl. Just because you're a former player or have a degree in sports business doesn't make anyone any smarter than the other when it comes to judging talent. Especially if all you do is travel around and watch games. Judging talent is not that hard. Especially in today's world when besides your own opinion, you have the world at your fingertips to get others analysis of each player.

So, What If We Get #4 And Holland pulls one of his "experiment" picks in hopes he becomes a diamond? Drafts a kid not even touted in the top 10? Would you still support Holland? I think if he drafts anyone that's not being discussed in the top 5 around the league that he should be fired and burned at the stake. I'm also going to be very angry if one of the top 3 centers or tippet is sitting there and he drafts Liljegren or that small under sized center Hischier...

Quenville is not the best coach. He, along with the city and fans are the benefactors of The Bowmans. Without Stan and Scotty, no more than the 1 Cup. The only dynasty in Chicago is named Bowman. Yes, he put us over the top as well.

Ok photoshoppers, put the ilitch and Holland faces on here!

Not being a Mrazek slappie, he's had a bad season, but watch the replays of all three goals. I don't blame him for any of them.

Kronwall horrible.

That goal was on green. But it all started because Kringewall was using a 9 iron taking that shot...s*** man!

Whoa! I got so excited it posted three times! Yikes!

And Chicago's dynasty is just as meaningless to anyone not in Chicago, the ultimate bandwagon city...

Well they better win it again in the next two years or they'll just be another team we were better than. We have 3 in 6, 4 in 11. They had 3 in 6 (no back to back) and they have 2 more seasons to beat 4 in 11. Until they best us, then there's no need to chastise the "dynasty."

I concur! Until Holland let's me down (he didn't with Mantha or Larkin) I'm welcoming Tippett to the Red Wings. If he grew a mullet, he could really have Red Wings! Also I'm welcoming Hague here as well! While I'm saying what Holland will do, he's trading a nhl player and a pick up for Hague. Until none of it happens, that's what's gonna happen...rebuild jump started!

While I agree we need a legit draft this year, no experiments, no hoping for a hidden gem that's off the radar, we need to draft one of the top 6 guys that are all being talked about. BUT, it's not Patrick or bust. If we got Patrick, that would be great, but there are a few other centers and a RW that are legit 1st year NHLer's in the draft.

and this is what pisses me off the most, I've been a diehard fan of this team since 1979, when I was 9 years old...before Holland was here, before Blashill was here, this is MY team, YOUR team, WE pay these salaries, we buy the pizza, the tickets, the soda, the shirts, etc... we watch even when it turns our stomach to do so! As soon as the season ends, the buck better stop! Coaches MUST be fired. We need a whole new staff. Babcock was great, but his message was becoming stale, and that philosophy has continued, but not even as good as it was before...and it wasn't even that good near the end of Babcock. I am so pissed, and that is what drives me over the edge a lot when it comes to players and the way they're being utilized and performing in those roles. Of course I'd love to see Nyquist score 70 points, but the way Blashill tries to utilize these guys put me into a frenzy! UGH! Coaches have to go, but honestly, with Holland having one more year, I don't see a change coming, because if he fired them all and hired new coaches, whoever takes over for Holland the next year may want to sweep house again and hire his own coaches. I think they all remain another year and then everyone gets swept with a new GM....hopefully not name Martin or Draper or any other suit upstairs who have the same philosophy as Holland....

Maybe they are secretly tanking on purpose to try to get that marquee player to open up The Oven. We'll never really know for sure. Not unless it a total coach implosion, I also am baffled at how this team turned to poop so quickly. I give Nyquist a heap of crap, but even I can admit, dammit he was 25-30 goals a season before Blashill. Tatar was too. Abby of course while playing with datsyuk, was pushing 20 a couple of times. I'm assured by just looking at larkin's game. His first 25-35 games last season he was flying high, keeping up with Eichel, leading the league in +/-, just overall being the player we, and NHL experts predicted he was going to be. But slowly as Blashill instilled his system into the club, Larkin got worse and worse. I beleive that Blashill's "system" turned Larkin from potential ROY to just another middle 6 player...As much as I blame Holland for bad contracts, but I blame Blashill for this team regressing over the last 2 seasons. Because, as bad as those long contracts are, those players were doing just fine before Blashill got here. I want to see changes, but first I want to see an entire coaching staff overhaul. We'll lose a player to Vegas, and Holland may free up some more cap over the summer, but I seriously, and you guys are going to drop your jaw to the floor, but I seriously want to see what our players, Nyquist and Helm included can do under a complete different coaching philosophy, like a Hitchcock or Tippett before the entire team get gutted. I am willing be bet under Hitchcock, DD will become the player he was headed to be. Nyquist and Tatar will probably both hit 30. Larkin and AA and Mantha would excel even higher. Nielsen would become the player he was in NY. There's no other way to explain the regression of ALL of these players except the coaching staff. One or two players, sure, but an entire flipping team? I can't swallow that out team is bad because of the players, it has to be the coaches. Unless its all a plot to get the #1 or #2 pick...

Owen Tippett #74 RW Mississauga Steelheads Shoots: R Height: 6.02 Weight: 204 Birthdate: 1999-02-16 Hometown: Peterborough, ON Bio: Draft: OHL - MISS (2015) Round: 1 (#4) GP G A PTS +/- PIM PPG SHG SOG FOW 56 43 30 73 24 34 10 0 269 12 Nicolas Hague #41 D Mississauga Steelheads Shoots: L Height: 6.05 Weight: 216 Birthdate: 1998-12-05 Hometown: Kitchener, ON Bio: Draft: OHL - MISS (2014) Round: 2 (#29) GP G A PTS +/- PIM PPG SHG SOG FOW 61 18 27 45 16 94 6 1 186 1 PLUS you just may recognize their teammate! Vili Saarijarvi #45 D Mississauga Steelheads Shoots: R Height: 5.10 Weight: 165 Birthdate: 1997-05-15 Hometown: Rovaniemi, Finland Bio: Draft: NHL - DET (2015) Round: 3 (#73) Import - FLNT (2015) Round: 1 (#9) GP G A PTS +/- PIM PPG SHG SOG FOW 32 11 20 31 22 14 2 0 140 1 I could really go for drafting those two and having three junior teammates together on our team as well!

If we don't get the #1 pick, my best scenario is draft Tippet and then trade up to draft Hague. We could easily get Tippet, but we'd have to trade an asset in order to get Hague, he currently falls in around #19 from the rankings I've been seeing. Maybe a NHL player and one of our many 3rds. Heck, if would be awesome if he fell to us in the 2nd. I doubt it, but its not entirely out of the question.

Huh? My report says Ouellet and AA....

http://kuklaskorner.com/tmr/comments/two-things-khan-on-blashlls-fate-and-st.-james-on-mistake-prone-wings PLEASE, PLEASE fire him after the season!!!!

Hell, I'm rooting for The Red Wings!

Mantha out for a lesson? And Sheahan, Nyquist, Helm, Abby, Tatar are all in... Blashill out.

Well, Windsor Ontario is south of Detroit...

Not sure if that is a draft topic or off season changes topic. Nonetheless, I think they're pretty happy with Nielsen. But, you never know...

Thanks for the update! I just hope Holland doesn't try to draft a "project" that he hopes turns into a genius draft steal.....ugh.....

If we're going Offense, I like these is this order: Patrick, Tippet, Vilardi, Mittelstat. If we're going Deffense, I like this order: Hague, Liljegren Honestly though, I saw a February ranking that had Hague around #19. Wouldn't it be grand if we drafted one of those 4 guys early then traded up to get Hague in the later part of round 1? Talk about a perfect scenario! ...of course I've seen some mocks where they have us taking some players that I've never even heard spoken about. Finnish and Swedish players that aren't even on the top 5 radar. I guess these mockers figure they know how Holland operates...

Yes, I like it, BUT did you put in the Uncle Gary factor in your simulations?