LeftWinger

Yes, we have Toronto's 3rd (Babcock signing) and Chicago's 3rd....which sucks only because our 3rd would be a late 2nd basically now, but Holland may have hedged that we'd finish higher than Toronto so he keep the one he may have thought would be higher...but still 2... Go to capfriendly.com and you can see all our picks, and it will show you details of the traded ones.

regarding Shattenkirk: Trade Vanek for the 1st, trade that plus Nyquist and Svech for Shatty....as long as we can come to a contract extension agreement.

You got that backwards...Chicago's 3rd = could equal early 4th if they win the Cup. Could be as early as a mid round 3rd. But not a late 2nd, they are no danger of missing the playoffs. Still a good return...

Actually the 3rd we traded to SJS was already paid, they traded it to Phoenix...we traded it to them, they traded it to Phoenix along with a 4th rounder last draft for Letunov and a 6th rounder this draft...see below: June 20, 2016: ARI 2016 4th round pick (#120-Otto Koivula) 2017 3rd round pick SJS Maxim Letunov 2017 6th round pick May 26, 2016: SJS 2017 3rd round pick DET Dylan Sadowy

Jarnkrok? Really? What about that scrub Eaves we traded? I think Chicago overpaid for Jurco, considering his production here, BUT, he was never really given the chance to prove he was an offensive player. HE may have had a few shifts in the top 6, but nowhere near as much as Helm, SHeahan, Abby or Glenny. All who of which haven't produced there consistently. Glad to see they are in the bottom 6 now, but honestly, I think if Jurco was given the chance on a consistent basis to be in the top 6, he would've have earned a spot here and we may be talking about someone else being dealt. Can't change it now, for some reason he just couldn't get out of the dog house. I hope we don't regret it, but hey, at least we got a nice return. What if Chicago is the first team eliminated? Mid round pick then...

Not at all...too bad he was playing behind players like Abby, Helm and Glendening when it came to lines. I never understood how lifetime bottom 6 players like those every got playing time over jurco...oh well, moot now.

If we got a 3rd for Jurco, we could most definitely get someone to take E's contract, right? Yes, but look what we were saying about eaves when he got traded from here...

Vanek for Trouba! +5

At least a 1st for Vanek now...1st and 3rd sounds about right to me! And OMG, Holland didn't get raped!

That would still be it. But, of course St. Louis would want a ton more... 1st (between 20-30), 3rd, Nyquist....maybe, MAYBE a prospect.

2 picks and a player....not our picks. If we got a 1st for Vanek and a 3rd for Smith, those 2 picks and nobody more important to us than Nyquist...AA, Mantha, Larkin out of the question.

Ya, this guy didn't wear huge items either...it was just the times, i think Ozzie had a huge ass jersey as well!

I was going with the narrative that he signs an extension post haste! Sorry, I should've included that. I don't want him for a rental, it doesn't help us at all. Don't know who'd they want, but if they're getting a 1st and a 3rd they are no way getting AA, Mantha or Larkin. Not sure if they'd want Nyquist, but he adds value to the trade...

Trade Vanek for a 1st, Smith for a 3rd and turn those two picks plus a player (Nyquist) to St. Louis for Shattenkirk. Keep our 1st, draft future star... How is it not done yet?

Mine's cooler with an actual tweet, pretty colors, pictures and unicorns! Na na a boo boo! Just kidding! Didn't see it..... my bad...

Oops! You are acknowledged!

I've been all over McKenzie twitter, haven't seen anything about Holland turning down offers on Smith...but, we know teams try to rape Holland all the time so I wouldn't be surprised if they are offering 5th or 6th rounders. Which should be turned down. Anything less than a 3rd is a low ball offer...

Just some info on Bishop and his NMC

Posting on fan forums as an assumed name....like.....Toggers! I kid, I kid! It's a good question, he kind of just disappeared from everywhere!

why does everyone want to dump AA? He's the best prospect forward we've had since...well, more prospects than you can imagine! He stays...

AA for nobody...not Jones, not OEL, not Trouba, not Subban, not Weber. AA is your future #1C, he has the numbers, he has the speed, he has the brains, he even has the corsi (for you analytics guys.) I will leave this here as well: ...nuff said.

For those of you saying you'd hate to see Smith go somewhere and excel like Schultz, would you rather AA get dealt somewhere and see him become a superstar? Larkin, AA, Mantha.....UN.TOUCH.ABLE If Holland deals any of them...ugh!

This quote alone convinces me, NO trade for Trouba. If Holland trades this guy, he has lost his marbles...he won't even be allowed in the tire store to kick them anymore!

Simple, if Holland opts to re-sign Smith over AA, he must die....figuratively.

trading Smith and Tatar now does nothing to help the cap next season. Besides keep them off of it. Their salaries are not on next years cap, so we still only have $6.1Mish even if they're traded. Bottom line is, if Holland wants to re-sign Tatar, he must dump Nyquist, if he want to re-sign Smith, he must dump Ericsson somehow and LTIR Kronwall. If not, there is no reason to even think he will acquire a #1 defender. Holland f***ed this team up....anyone else still think Helm was a great deal? I said it when it happened, not that he was not worth it on the market, but to this team, the cap space and roster spot was worth more...Same with Glenny. Holland is going to f*** this team more and we are going to end up losing players off our NHL roster to inferior ones. IMO, XO and Jensen are higher priorities than Smth....but all three should be here over Ericsson.