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Everything posted by LeftWinger
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It's no secret I voted Hossa. But other than him, they all suck...they're ******* Blackhawks for f***s sake!
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AA holy s*** AA!
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Off with Holland's nuts!
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Lol! Who needs a goal now? Team going nowhere with Sheahan playing!
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This team will go nowhere with Nyquist in the top 6 and Larkin stuck in the bottom 6.
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Sure wish he'd try moving Tatar and Nyquist out of the top 6....or out of the lineup for about 10 games...
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1/10 GDT - Red Wings at Blackhawks - 8:30 PM EST
LeftWinger replied to MabusIncarnate's topic in 2016-17
I have a feeling Chicago is going to regret giving Panarin that huge contract right off the bat. I'm surprised there was no bridge deal...I hope it does hurt them big league! -
1/10 GDT - Red Wings at Blackhawks - 8:30 PM EST
LeftWinger replied to MabusIncarnate's topic in 2016-17
I don't like that Ott nor Jensen are out...there are other struggling players who deserve a "sit down." -
Orr played when no defenseman even thought about playing like a forward. That's what he basically was, a forward playing on the blueline. Put Paul Coffey in his 80s prime back in that era and he has more accolades than Orr. He'll, it's the same as if you would put Fedorov in his prime on D in the 70s. In today's game, Orr would be great, but nowhere near as decorated. Plus, how many Cups was he responsible for?
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I just figured that having Tavares' former linemate under contract already may make him give us a looksie. I thought Tavares was a winger?
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If we have an opportunity to get Trouba or Hamilton, you deal the pick. Like someone said, by time their due for a huge raise, we'll have plenty of cap space. We haven't touched on when they sign Tavares after next season...
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I truly believe Vanek will fetch a 1st from a team in the top 5-7 looking for a scorer to rent for a serious cup run. Green could get a 1st as well, but maybe a 2nd considering he would control where he goes with his NTC. Smith could actually get us a 2nd from a team that really wants him (like rumored Boston or Florida from last deadline.) Remember, the price goes up within the division. Ericsson is more like a 3rd with retained salary...4th without. Nyquist/Tatar could range between 2nd and 4th. I wouldn't want any players back, just picks. Plus I don't think we'd get a Duclair type player in return for any of them. Ott isn't going to be traded.
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That fact that there isn't any can't miss elite guys is a perfect reason to trade the pick for an elite guy. Even if you get the #1 Overall, IMO, it'd be better to trade it for the elite D man and a lower 1st could get you Foote or Hague. Again, if a team pays up for Vanek and we get a 25-30 1st as well, we could possibly draft both. But getting Hamilton or Trouba PLUS the chance at getting Foote or Hague. You just can't pass that opportunity up for maybe in Patrick or Liljegren. Let's say we get #1, we offer it to Calgary for Hamilton and their 1st, which may be around 12-15. You have Hamilton and quite possibly Foote or Hague will be there for the acquired 1st. Maybe a team like CHI, MIN, PIT OR MTL pays a 1st for Vanek to maybe put them over the top, and maybe there's someone good between 23 and 30 as well. That's where I think you have to sell a few of your vets, and trade your 1st if it's in the top 5. You may be able to trade it if it's a top 10 as well, especially if someone is left on the board that Calgary or Winnipeg may really want.
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Trouba and Hamilton are legit top D now, and will be for 10+ years. If we can keep our kid core and acquire one of those two, plus still have a 1st rounder that could land us Foote or Hague, I do it. It almost makes too much sense.
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If we got a top 5 pick, again, I'd offer it up for Trouba and their 1st. Same as with Calgary. If the rumors of Trouba have any weight, then our 1st will have to be in play. A top 5 pick, IMO, would get that deal done. Same as with Calgary, they may want a top 5 more than Winnipeg.
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He'd be a good pickup for GR. That's it though.
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I offer any pick 1-5 to Calgary or Winnipeg for Hamilton plus their 1st or Trouba plus their 1st. Then I hope to land Foote/Hague. If some team around 25ish would be willing to overpay for Vanek or Green, we might be able to land both. Of we sell Green and Smith (hoping for E too) and replace them with one of Hamilton/Trouba along with Foote and Hague. This is a perfect scenario obviously, but if all we did was acquired Hamilton and Foote it'd be, IMO, better than drafting Patrick or Liljegren.
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As mentioned before, I try to trade a top 5.
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I agree, which is why I believe we should sell the vets at the deadline for picks. I don't believe any package of Coreau or Sproul would get us anything that would help us now or later, and I also don't like the idea of kids for picks. Which is why I keep those two, amongst others. I don't mean to insinuate that they're untouchable, but at the deadline we're selling for picks, not one single player. Again, one player will not change this team. Why sell our kids for one player that still won't get us The Cup. Then we're out a Cup AND our young talent. Get picks for Green, Vanek, Nyquist, Tatar, Smith, Ericsson, Howard and play for the highest pick you can get. I personally dangle that top 5 pick to a team like Calgary or possibly Winnipeg for Hamilton or Trouba along with their 1st and hope for Foote.
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1/7 GDT : Red Wings at San Jose Sharks, 10:30 EST
LeftWinger replied to Hockeytown0001's topic in 2016-17
Hmmmm, didn't know about the hernia thing...now, for sure if I get a lottery pick, even the #1, I offer it to Calgary for Hamilton and their 1st, then set my sights on Foote. -
I would agree if we were one player away from winning now, but we're not. It looks like the playoffs are a fading goal, so it's time to evaluate our kids and come deadline deal vets for draft picks. As much as I'd love to keep Vanek, someone may be willing to overpay for him as a rental, we could then maybe try to sign him come July. Some team may also pay up for Mike Green and we should be looking at ways to get something for Nyquist and Tatar. Abby and Helm probably will not be traded and Howard has too many injury issues to bring anything, even left unprotected, I feel we are going to have to buy him out or be stuck with his contract. We should also take offers on Ericsson and Smith, I think Kronwall is about done. The OMG line is staying, whether anyone agrees or not. The best thing to do is trade Green, Vanek, Ericsson, Smith, Nyquist and/or Tatar at the deadline for multiple picks and go with the kids into the office season. Hopefully get a very high draft pick. If we don't get the #1 but still get a top 5, I offer that to Calgary for Hamilton and their 1st and draft Foote (if on the board still.) Of course you take Patrick with the #1. You maybe try for Shattenkirk this July or Fowler next July. No matter what, I do not trade AA, Mantha, Larkin, Dekeyser, Sproul or Mrazek. I don't even trade Coreau at this point. There honestly, at this point, is not a D man that, to me, is worth trading AA, Mantha or Larkin for. One guy won't save this season.
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AA, Mantha, Larkin should never be traded. We must developed our D kids by getting rid of players like Kronwall, Ericsson, Smith and eventually Green. AA should be top 6 for the rest of the season. No question.
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1/7 GDT : Red Wings at San Jose Sharks, 10:30 EST
LeftWinger replied to Hockeytown0001's topic in 2016-17
Holland and Blashill have destroyed the entire legacy of this team...f*** both of them. -
1/7 GDT : Red Wings at San Jose Sharks, 10:30 EST
LeftWinger replied to Hockeytown0001's topic in 2016-17
Really? He was benched? It's time for coach to go. -
1/7 GDT : Red Wings at San Jose Sharks, 10:30 EST
LeftWinger replied to Hockeytown0001's topic in 2016-17
Nice to see 62, 72 and 39 staying hot. But after tonight I'm sure Blashill will scratch 72 to send a message...to who, I don't know. Time to sit 21, 14, 15.