LeftWinger

Well he'd have a 3rd line spot if not for your boy.

Everyday I come here and don't see a trade pinned to the top I get more and more sick to my stomach.

Short answer, no. Long answer, no. I still holding out hope for a fowler and or trouba deal before camp. Helm should not have been signed and Nyquist should've been dealt. There's AA and Mantha top 9 spots. Maybe if miller or ott weren't signed we could have helm on the 4th. Still, deal nyquist and the spots are open.

That was a good one too! Thank you Roy for all the great moments in Red Wings Hockey history!

What others failing to remember also, before the streak started, we only missed the playoffs twice after 83. We rebuilt on the fly then and we can do it again.

I'm a huge Holland critic. But remember before we won in 97? We had a core of young players growing together, learning together. Remember when Yzerman was traded in 94 until Mrs. I put the cabash on it? Remember when we signed aging vets like Bob rouse, Mike Ramsey, acquired a past his prime Mike Vernon, remember trading for a 35 year old igor larionov and a 36 year old fetisov? Remember claiming a 30 year Doug brown off the waiver wire? 35 year old Larry Murphy who seemed to be done after failing miserably in Toronto. How about 32 year old Joe kocur out of the beer league? You have to grow a core, you have to influx that with vets. Not a big fan of Helm, but he's obviously part of our core... I wish Holland would make a deal for a D man, but I think he is doing it very similar to the early 90's.

I'll remember Roy for 3 reasons...11 goals, getting his ass kicked, 7 goals.

Having a motivated Nielsen and Vanek has got to be better than an unmotivated Datsyuk. I wish we were giving AA 3rd line minutes though...

Oh, ok, got it.

http://mynhltraderumors.com/fantasy-hockey-2016-17-top-200-nhl-player-rankings/2016/08/09/ Three rankings of the top 200 players in the NHL. Missing someone from the Wings.

Don Cherry the jazz player, because the other one can't very well roll over in his grave yet...😆

I Throw Up At The Thought that Pittsburgh has more Cups than us post lockout...😳 I'll take that line, as long as the other scoring line is Tatar-Nielsen-Vanek

Ott is going to surprise all!

Grand Rapids.

Pretty much the same team from last year. Haters gonna hate.

Yes, he played for a couple seasons just complaining about a head ache once in awhile, and saying he just wasn't interested sometimes. So, no, it's not ignorant. It took a few seasons for everyone to get on the same page of it being concussion symptoms. When nobody knew, we all thought he was just floating around and complaining about a headache. Enough about our best power forward of all time and the main reason we won in 08. He's the bestest! Now, how about a trade or two Kenny?

It'll jump up to 10 when AA, Mantha get sent down, and if Jensen and Sproul clear waivers.

Oh, I forgot how great he was. He once scored 5 goals in a game. If it wasn't for a head ache, he'd a been the next Shanahan!

Oh ya, I forgot he is the next Fedorov.

Don't forget he lead the team in GWG too in those games, if it was 4-0, he scored the 1st goal, 8-2, 3rd goal...etc...man he was so clutch!

I spit out my drink when I read this. What an insult to Mantha. What, no trade yet?

I see Mantha as hopefully a power forward type. Big body, sniper. Not a holmstrom type guy. I see Jurco in a similar way. Big and a bit of a sniper. He has definitely been used wrong the last couple of seasons. Think back to the jurco-Sheahan-Tatar line. That's how he should be used.

Jurco is a pretty big boy, he's not going to fight (neither is Mantha) but he can forecheck pretty good, and Helm, for as much as I don't like him, is defensively sound and could handle that part of the ice along with the corner work. AA and Jurco will handle the scoring.

I'm of the opinion that having AA and Fowler on this team makes us better than having Nyquist & Ericsson. I do the Anaheim scenario in a heartbeat. Ken Holland is going to shock us all and acquire both Fowler and Trouba! Half of our D will be local kids! Sweet! The teams are just ironing out the details!

Could you imagine this D with both Fowler and Trouba on it for the rest of their careers? Add to that DD and Marchenko? Our D will be set for the next 15 years!