LeftWinger

No doubt, the PP coach needs to be replaced before next season. I am tired of the same old setup. Get to center ice drop it back to the blueline. Ugh!

AA with a great play, let's reward him by putting Helm with Datsyukian and Mantha...

Not seeing enough AA...he's been one of, if not the best player since he's been here...needs more than 3rd line minutes and linemates.

If Stamkos is going to get $10 per year, letting the contracts of KFQ, Richards and Helm come off the books covers that. Howard will get traded as will Smith. $8M more right there. If Stamkos doesn't want to come here, then at least you still have a ton of cash to pursue other options. It's been proven since the deadline that Holland cannot stand pat this off season. All we can hope for this season is that they squeak into the playoffs, but I doubt it. Holland needs to redefine his team this summer or needs to be fired.

IMO, this should be the lines tonight... Larkin-Z-Abby AA-Datsyuk-Mantha Tatar-Sheahan-Jurco Helm-Richards-Glenn I sit Nyquist to send a message not only for him stealing money from the team, but that play the other night needs to be addressed in this manner. The D is a vortex of s***ty players right now. Can't bench them all.

The latest fall is not on the goalies. Howard and Mrazek have both played well enough to win all of their last few starts. It's on Holland for not making the team better and Blashill for not putting the right guys together. Not benching or demoting guys to lower lines for playing with no heart and like garbage.

Out of the playoffs, maybe they'll wake up now? Doubt it. Holland let us and them down...it's too late. Thanks Holland. Just a side note on the lines, switch tartar with aa...he and mantha have great chemistry.

Ok..... Z, Mantha, Larkin, AA, Abby, Tatar, Sheahan (exposing Nyquist, Pulk, Jurco, Glendening, Helm (if re-signed.)) It needs to be known that if we land someone this July (hopefully Holland goes all in for someone like Stamkos, Lucic, Backes, et al. and then they would be protected instead of Sheahan.) If Dats has to be protected (since he won't be officially a UFA until July of 2017) then expose Tatar. Which I think if they are pending UFA's then they shouldn't have to be protected. If he retired then we'd waste a protection on him potentially losing someone we'd hate to lose. Also if Mantha doesn't need to be protected then put Tatar back on that list. ​Dekeyser, Marchenko, Kronwall ​(exposing Smith if resigned, Ericsson and Green.) It also needs to be noted that if XO comes up next season or if the Wings sign a top 2 guy, it is going to get real dicey. What if Jensen, XO, Sproul are all exposed as well? ​Mrazek ​​- I believe Howard will be dealt this summer, but if not, then obviously Howard will be exposed or whomever Holland signs as Petr's backup. If players in GR are also exposed, which would be bulls***, then unfortunately there'd be a lot more exposed. Fortunately we'd only lose one player for one team, unless the team passed on all of our exposed players.

The problem is, those same guys you are referring to weren't awarded a nearly $5M per year contract to take a s***.

Sums it up...period.

Easy, there are certain users here that think Z is still 25 and a great leader. In reality, he's a broken down shadow of himself. He won't make 5 more years on his contract.

Nowhere near a weak call, he broke his stick in half. Nyquist just earned a benching with that play. That's right up there with Smith throwing the puck back on the ice from the bench. I could care less if Nyquist ever played another game for Detroit again.

Messages need to be sent....f*** it, call up two more rookies who want to prove they belong in the NHL.

Can't watch anymore....worst red wings team since 1985 and Holland did nothing to try and make this team better....drastic, DRASTIC changes are needed.

Next game Tatar and Nyquist sit for Jurco and Pulkkinen.

******* Q cannot keep the puck in the zone!

Larkin's problem is at the beginning of the season he played his game, he has now been molded into playing Granato's game...

Nyquist is horrible...but hey, he got his money, why play hard now?

Holland should be ashamed of himself. God I want to punch him!

Philly on pace for 60 shots.

Poor Petr has no help....

That right there should guarantee AA 20 more minutes of playing time at least!

Why does Nyquist bring everyone he plays with down? Here's my top 6 going forward : Larkin - Z - AA. Helm - Data - Mantha Yes, I put Helm back up there, amazing, I know.

What a ******* disgrace! Just going on record that I told you this was going to happen when Holland sat on his hands at the deadline. His time here has become stale and needs to be fired. The whole defense needs an enima. I am very disappointed how DD is playing, but can't give up on him yet. Can't trade Green or Kronwall with their full NTC. Everyone else, goodbye. Yes, even Marchenko. Nyquist or Tatar needs to be traded, Abby is already a wasteam of money, and we have 7 more years of him. Hank is a shadow and is showing no leadership whatsoever. Pav is about 68% he cannot continue to be the only vet trying. Lol, KFQ was ******* destroyed on that 1st goal, what a ******* joke.

It's amazing how bad this team has become since miller went down...