LeftWinger

i hear ya...I am just so used to this crap...Kenny did land Hatcher and CuJo before, I know I have kneejerk reactions. I do trust Holland, but would like to see him get a top line UFA soon...

...and this soon to follow...Holland misses out on Bobby Ryan as this guarantees Ryan will be a Flyer if traded...f***!

Yea, then philly will make the deal for Ryan. Holland will say, he wasnt really interested in Ryan and Lilja knows the system.....

...and just like you and me AND the media, he is thinking why doesn't anyone want to be here? Because Holland lowballs...In this market, if you want to big names, you have to overpay, outbid, and offer REAL helluva offers for star players... I am glad he has tried, but if he didn't try as hard as everyone else, then he didn't really try, did he? His model remains the same...Euro, Euro, N/A, Euro. Then bring in or back OLD Euro. Sammy is an upgrade as a whole over Hudler, Brunner we don't know, Tootoo, baffles me wy he came here, he probably thought 99.9% that his buddy Suter was coming here, just like the rest of the world, just like Suter did, until his wife ruled otherwise and Holland offered him less money than Minny...Holland can still redeem himself by acquiring Ryan...which would help bigtime in getting Perry or Getzlaf next year. (but I doubt he gets any of them.) I still belive by time training camp hits, Lilja will be a Wing again... I fully, FULLY expect Hudler to be back in 4 years...this is Holland's model. He refuses to change with the times...

Wings.done.....this is our roster

Geez, makes me wonder what Hollands "Hell of an offer" was...he could have beaten this without blinking...Howsen is an absolute jack wagon... Franzine/Tatr/Mursak/1st destroys what the Rags gave them....Not unless Holland low-balled again....Bring on Ryan! NOT! It aint gonna happen...our roster is set...I believe it now 100%...as much as I like the Tootoo signing, Holland failed this year...FAIL by low-balling! Holland just cannot let go of Franzilina....God I hate Franzine!

Honestly...Holland was Asst. GM when the first Balls to the Wall move was made for Shanahan, that won us Cups...he showed his Balls by acquiring Chris Chelios...and when we were too old Holland made another Balls to the Wall move by getting Hasek, Hull & Robitaille that won us Cups....He needs another Balls to the Wall trade...Bobby Ryan. He needs to stop lowballing GM's and UFA's...player want to get paid, no longer do they take a discount to play in Detroit because it's Detroit...

Hey Holland, this is what having Balls means! Take some risk! You wouldn't even miss the first round picks....I am beginning to think that Wiz is totally right about Holland....sure he puts an effort in to try to acquire players, but he low balls UFA's and other GM's...

We can still win it all THIS season, but...the team still has Franzine on it...

Ya, Mike BabCock in a Walk!

Please Holland NO Lilja...I haven't forgiven him yet for the 2009 giveaway...

Get this trade done!

Trade.for Ryan, sign Doan, sign Kubina....set.

Well with Q signed, and Howson apparently not even answering Kenny's call's, I would say if he makes the Ryan trade, signs Doan and Kubina, then the Wings will be doing very well for themselves come the trade deadline and playoffs...

Blah...a little more than I would have liked, but whatever...if he becomes one of our top 4, I guess the $250,000 overpayment will be alright...At least we have 6 D now, wonder who the 7th will be, or are we to expect a REAL top 4 defender and have Kindl be #7...

I stil say we hold the trump card in Filppula when it comes to acquiring Ryan... I still think Howson is an idiot, but I guess he doesn't want Franzine either...do you blame him? BTW, to Holland this off season, for attemtpting everthing we've been complaining about him NOT doing the last 4-5 years... He is trying...

Well, Howson is a f***in idiot....he is an idiot if he thinks he will get Nash moved for more. He will get less from the other.5 teams...lets move on Ryan, right now!

I have been wondering the same...seems there has been zero update on his health status.

Hmmm, if the next move is to re-sign Abby and Q and that is it...then seriously, who gets called up to be the #7 defender? Do you think Sproul could make the jump with no GR experience? Plus, again, who is gone up front? Emmy, Mursak, Miller, Eaves would be the 4 extra forwards, two would have to go...

Sure would be hilarious if the players didn't agree to a salary drop and Minny had to "cut" a ton of salary! Heatly would be GONE after he told the Olsen twins that they could win! But, but, he a F**king All-Star! Oh what would centcougar do?

Ok....Brunner, better than Hudler....Sammy, better than Hudler...Tootoo, better than Hudler....seriously though if Brunner nets 20-25, Sammy nets 20-25, Tootoo reeks havoc and makes it harder to play against us, we are already better offensively than we were last season... Smith may turn out to be a 40-50 scorer...this is the year Kronner tops 40...Sammy WAY better defensively than Hudler... re-sign Abby and we lose Mursak and Emmerton probably...Nyquist will get 30 points (if not more as long as he stays in the top 6.) I am all for making the deal for Nash or Ryan, but honestly, this team doesn't suck, they have a TON of young heart and enthusiasm...more so that they have had in a LONG LONG time....hey guess what, back up goalie is better than last year too! BTW Howard is healthy, remember last season when he was healthy? He was leading all the talks in the Vezina department... I think Kronner really steps it up this season to become the leader he was touted to be when they drafted him...Smith will get heavy nods for Rookie of the Year (be nice to beat out that guy from Minn. I'd ) and I really think this Brunner kid is gonna surprise a lot of people...we won't know until this is the final roster...would like Doan and Nash/Ryan...but if not, then I think we'll still make the playoffs and along the way make some loud noises! I think if Franzine stays he needs to get 40 goals in order to secure his spot on the top line...this the year for him to prove he is that top line scorer... speaking of "the year," lest we forget Filppula is in a contract year and will be looking to earned $5M+ on his next one, so you never know, he may top 70-80 points...life is good in Hockeytown. Even with losing Lids and Stu....we took more steps forward than we did back... edit: As a matter of fact, the talk is who is gonna replace Datsyuk when he retires, where is he gonna come from...well if he stays, look no further than Val Filppula...I know I talk about trading him, but if he remains a Wing and signs a "career" contract like Kronner, he will be the #1 center in a few years...

...again, I love this signing. Jordin Tootoo is the type of player this team has been missing...and guess what? Unlike the Drake signing where it was a 1 year last hurrah, Jordin is 27, signed for 3 years already PLUS he will probably finish his career here (5 more after this contract maybe?) as most players who come here do. No doubt if Stuart didn't have the family issues, he'd be signed here for a career ending contract. I have a feeling Sammy will end his here as well. It's crazy how all these players can go to teams to "hope" the rebuild takes only a few years...I know Detroit cannot sign ALL the players, but it seems there are two types of players in this league...players that bounce around for the money and players who sign somewhere to win for the rest of their careers...not many teams have the Resume of the Detroit Red Wings when it comes to winning and consistency. There will be certain players who will regret NOT signing in Detroit...but Tootoo will NOT be one of them. He is here til the end of his career, guaranteed. Especially if during his 3 year contract Detroit sniffs a Cup Final or wins a Cup. Again I say welcome to Hockeytown Jordin! What took you so long?

Nobody "liked" Scotty either....Not saying that Babcock is as good as Scotty, but if Holland or Ilitch had ANY incling that Mike Babcock was hindering the team from landing quality talent, Mike Babcock would be castrated...

Ahhhhh, but alas, this is Holland m.o.....dano. I am not advocating a signing, but in no way would I be surprised if he did....

I jut don't know what Kenny is waiting for....Doan? Semin? He is in on the Nash trade talk, waiting for that? I wish we as fans knew more! I still think this team needs that top scorer not named Franzine. Semin or Nash would be that sniper. Ryan would too, Doan would be a 20-30 goal grinding forward. Semin would definitely top 40 with Datsyuk as would Nash (or possibly 50) If somehow Kenny could trade for Nash AND sign Semin, we're in! (Ilke Doan and Ryan as well, or hell any combo! I just hate the wait!) Each day that goes by seems like Holland isn't going to do anything else....ugh!