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Again, you use last season prospectus....find one for this year or better just go to the thread that has the link....or how about one from Hockeys Future.... http://www.hockeysfu...ngs-2011-2012/3 15 is higher than 17 bud. http://www.puckprosp...?articleid=1347 here's another 3 is higher than 4 BUD. Just keep holding on to outdated material and analysis... NEXT! Uh...generic statements from those two at the presser, they would say the same thing anywhere they would've signed...NEXT! So, the Finnish league is superior to the AHL...ok, sign up all NHL teams to change their minor league affiliates to the Finnish league...what are these NHL personnel thinking, associating with the worst league in the world....NEXT! They chose Minny for family...they'd say the same generic rah rah in any other city....NEXT! Wild on top of the NW division for the first half of the season, then they blew a wad....got hurt...whatever....just where was Detroit before they got a rash of injuries? Top of the NHL...NHL! Not division...NEXT! Are we wondering what Holland is doing since he lost out on Suter? Hell yeah, and we hope he does some stuff! This I will agree with you on, he hasn't done much since the Suter-stakes, but he has been the best, so I will reserve judgement until we miss the playoffs...NEXT! I wont say how much greater we are historically, lets just look at the last 12 season so we can be on even playing ground....oh, still greater, nevermind...NEXT! Kronwall is just as good as Suter offensively and better in the hitting department...Kronwall can be a #1...Suter is better defensively, but its not like Kronwall stinks at it...NEXT! Holland did speak to Schultz...again Detroit is not in Canada...Parise not worth that much money, Holland offered him what he is worth...I think the Wild may have gotten just as far with Schultz, thanks but we want to play in Canada...NEXT! Parise also said he'd love to play with Pavel Datsyuk, as a matter of fact so would most of the league per the players poll last season...Koivu is good too, either way Parise would've got to play with a great centerman...NEXT! I am sorry, I guess there are no MEN in the AHL...they are all little boys with no experience and Tatar is just a God amongst them... If you want to degrade Detroit's prospects based on just your opinion, then here is mine, Granfool has no business even putting skates on. There even I can just spout off at the mouth without researching facts...NEXT! Anyhow, like I said, congrats on being a fan of the Wild and lucking out that those two have family there...you won the UFA sweeps, yippee! Now lets see them become a dynasty powerhouse and make the playoffs for the next 13 years...You can spout all you want, you just cannot get over the fact that if it weren't for FAMILY, Not Grandrool, Not Koivu, Not Heatley, Not Centcougar, FAMILY, if it weren't for FAMILY, Parise would be a Devil and Suter would be a Red Wing...from there mouths, quote unquote, proven to you over and over again....do us all a favor...accept it, enjoy it and know that if it weren't for FAMILY they'd be playing for LESS money elsewhere...Minnesota had to outbid NJ and Detroit as well... We accept the fact that they are Wild, you just accept the fact why they chose the Wild...GOODBYE!

He's not gonna sit...this just pushes Miller/Eaves/Mursak/Emmerton further down the list....I really like Miller and Eaves....just don't know whats gonna shake down come training camp! I can deal without Emmy or Mursak, but right now even without those two, there are still too many forwards, with Abby and the possibility of Doan or Semin...I guess it's good to have depth in but how many of these guys will make it through waivers? I think a trade is coming, but it just may be picks coming back to Holland...

Whoa! You are cruising for an all out attack suggesting that Holland sign a 40 year old... I wonder if O'Donnell has anything left?

I just wish these guys would decide....soon....I would like either one of them, or both, but geez lets get a move on so Holland can deal with having about 18 forwards and who to trade...

They make a cream for that....

Janik and Exelby haven't left yet, they may be waiting to see what happens in Detroit...

It's just the lack of top 6 depth. On a serious note, lets say the re-sign Abby, who then is on the outs? This worries me a bit. It'll be be a fight in training camp...you have to believe that Brunner will be on the roster along with Nyquist...Miller has given so much to this team and Eaves was playing awesome hockey when he got hurt...Add Doan to this mix and it just gets more crowded... Sheesh! What a log jam! Gustav Nyquist / Pavel Datsyuk / Johan Franzen Valtteri Filppula / Henrik Zetterberg / Mikael Samuelsson Todd Bertuzzi / Darren Helm / Damien Brunner Danny Cleary / Justin Abdelkader / Jordin Tootoo Jan Mursak / Patrick Eaves / Drew Miller Cory Emmerton

ya, sorry....I am just over-anxious....my bad.

Well, there is movement happening...I'd like for Holland to keep Exelby, tough kid, would make a nice #7 if they had to trade away Kindl for some reason...Come on Holland...make Doan and Semin offers they cannot refuse! Really though, I am dying to find out what Holland has up his sleeve with trades or signings...Everyone knows he wants Doan, but so do a few others, so we could lose out. Semin would be nice too! Just please Holland, do something to make this team even better! We like our kids, we like the UFA's you picked up....players are starting to move again, don't get caught without a seat on the bus...

Hey, a few things happening today....lets get some more news! (ahem, Doan, cough cough Semin, you listening? Holland?)

Nice to see some teams making deals to fill their needs...Holland? You awake? Franzine is expendable, especially when it comes to Ryan/Nash or Yandle...

^^^^ Agreed...I think Holland should use his Balls and make that trade...he should give Doan a nice deal AND Semin his 1 year $Whatever million to play with Dats...Ryan or Nash would negate the missed Parise signing... Doan and Semin would only make this team better...sure getting Yandel would make our D great again, but realistically all that is not gonna happen...Although Holland can afford some of it, I feel he is just gonna sit on $16M in cap space... Ya it got off on a tangent...but this guy is nutso...

Sure, Tootoo isn't Parise, he isnt Nash or Ryan, but he does change the way other teams have ot play against us....not many people liked the Drake signing either, but he did the same thing, made it harder to play against us.... If you don't like us or the Wings anymore, I feel the obligatory "Go Root For The <insert team name here> Then..." comment is warranted here...but in the end, I think everyone will be happy with Tootoo. He isnt gonna win us the Stanley Cup, but it was a pretty good pickup...

Not that he would be the end all be all, but signing Kubina would greatly improve our powerplay... Sign Doan/Kubina/Abby/Q if the award is good enough and lets roll! If Holland could pull a Nash/Ryan or Yandle/Bogosian* out of the air, I am all for that too! It is not as bad as it seems...are we upset by the snubbing of Suter? Yes, we were betting a lot on him coming here...but look, and some will argue the other way, but Sammy is an improvement on Hudler as a whole, Gus is an improvement on Conklin and J Mac, and Tootoo will bring to this team something that has been lacking for a long time! I think this team got better up front and in Goal...nobody will replace Lidstrom, not even Suter, Suter is on a level with Kronwall, all we need to do is find a stop gap to shore up our D...It's up to Holland to do it... If Holland adds Doan, we get even better up front and if he can land a #1 D, super! But little things work too... It's gonna be a challenging season, but they will compete and make the playoffs and then go from there...

Not a bitchfest, it would be fine if he came in here and said how good the Wild have gotten with these two siginings, but he comes in and says that the Wings suck and that is why they didn't come here...then when he is told the reason they signed in Min. he says its all lies, I just felt the need to prove him wrong... BTW, Justin Bieber is ugly! ( I am more of a Haley Reinhart fan!)

Uh....Doan has said he is interested in many teams....this is no more truth than any other report...he'll pick one place and the rest will be wrong, but until he signs, I am not speculating that any team has an advantage... Oh geezus! Holland if this is going to drag out, make a trade, make Detroit look that much better of a place to play! Make the Ryan or Nash trade, make the Yandle or Bogosian* trade... *not that there is a Bogosian rumor but he would be an awesome pick up!

Come on Shane...

So even though Detroit still has a strong core of players and, according to expert pro scouts, has a better prospect pool than the Wild, they are nowhere near winning and the Wild are going to win 20 Cups? Ooooo? Hope you had fun, but uh Tomas Tatar has played THREE season in GR totaling 204 games, 64G 83A TTL 147 PTS. But thanks for looking at one season. That is three years experience playing with MEN and other TOP prospects in the game. Hey if the AHL is so inferior, why doesn't the NHL just make their minor league affiliates all in the FInnish Local League? Listen, nobody is saying Granuld sucks, yet you come in here and say Tatar cannot sharpen his skates and he sucks...thats the difference between you and Red Wings fans, we acknowledge other teams good players, you and most other fans of other teams just come here and say how bad the Wings are going to be...yet that never happens... Ya, he is so full of s*** that he could never get a job working for the number one broadcasting station in Canada and knows nothing about hockey or has any friends in the industry...he should be flipping burgers... Funny thing is, I never said Detroit was on his short list, I said that HE said if it wasn't for family, he'd be back in NJ...You said he never said that, well again, he did, I proved it, now take your medicine and realize the truth. HE ONLY CHOSE MIN OVER NJ BECAUSE OF FAMILY. He didn't choose Detroit because they offered him fair market value, not an over inflated salary, because Detroit was on his first list until they wouldn't offer him MORE money... Gee lets see, I just signed to play for a team for the next 13 years and when I get introduced and asked questions about the team, I am gonna say how bad the team is and how I already reget signing here...you are foolish! What do you expect them to say? They also said they loved playing in NJ/Nash and will give them every opportunity to offer them contracts... When a player signs somewhere and then at the presser comes in and says, "Man this team is bad, I only signed here for the money" post that video link up so we can all see it please... Ok....even given proof you still don't get it... Let's see, #3 Sports franchise in ALL of sports, #1 in the NHL, 21 straight playoffs appearances, 4 Stanley Cups in 15 years, that's more than anyone else, most Presidents Trophies in the history of the Presidents Trophy, How many current and future HHOF players have worn the Winged Wheel....lets see, ya we are desperate fans for sure. Now, lets see, Minnesota....hmmmmm, had a franchise and the area didn't support it so it left and moved to Dallas, now another franchise who has only seen the playoff 3 times in its existence...I can understand why you as a hockey fan are so desperate to win something...hey maybe the Wild will beat us everytime this season, but that means nothing...come back when you win a Cup...Sorry I proved everything you said wrong, sorry I busted you out as a Wild fan and blew your cover when you were pretending to be a Wings fan (but I do understand you wanting to feel the joy we have felt since the late 80's.) Just go enjoy your hometown boys and feel glad that they wanted to play with their families...but always remember in the back of your head, if it weren't for family ties, Parise would be a Devil still and Suter would be a Red Wing...and guess what, they would have said the same exact things at those press conferences that they did at the Wild's...

Ok cool..like I said, I wasn't doubting, I just didnt see a Michigan mention...thats cool! Give him a call and tell him to tell Anaheim he only wants to play in Detroit!

http://www.mlive.com...ecisions_f.html Damn cougar, you make this too easy! Oh and the $110M offer? Flyers....with whom Parise said would never sign with and Suter said he wouldn't play in the East...so ya, they had to offer them a ton more to express their interest and try to lure them and change their minds....it's over centcouger, you lost this debate, lick your wounds and be happy that you are a fan of their hometown team...you lucked out. awwww....cat got your tongue? Go home...

You truly do live in your own little world don't you? http://www.hockeypro...rticleid=1347 Take a look at where the pro scouts rank the prospects...just keep quoting your 2009 prospect analysis... You didn't discredit anyone...please indulge us...tell me how Granuts is going to blow away all of Getzky's records and lead Minny to 1900 straight Stanley Cups...Heatley is already being talked about in trade scenarios, plus you don't have to have knowledge of a organization when you have the internet..words dont lie, if the Wild dont win in 3 years, the ride starts all over! Oh and about Tatar sharpening Grandrools skates...hmmmm, just checked the stats, your boy has never top 57 points EVER in his career, yet Tatar has twice PLUS has 3 years of North American hockey under his belt...your boy hasn't played here yet...hmmmm, not a fortune teller BUT he COULD be in for a bit of a shock...maybe, maybe not...point is, he hasn't proven anything and neither has Tatar, yet you are awarding your team the Cup based on him probing nothing so far and in the same sentence saying Detroit has no chance EVER because Tatar cannot sharpen skates? I can quote their stats for you if you'd like, but since you know everything about Detroit's prospects and organization, I will spare the rest of the users... Hmmm let's see: I'll put this one in just in case you cannot read...

Yet you seem to be able to tell the future of hockey....I bet the kate upton thing happens before the Wild win a Cup... I'm sorry? I know Detroit is close to Canada, but it's not IN Canada...didn't see the Wild on the short list either, maybe because they aren't in Canada? $110M offer from teams that had no chance to sign them, but offered them the world to try to sway them...again you seem to be omitting the part about family. Parise "If it weren't for family I'd be back in NJ..." Suter "I was leaning towards Detroit but decided to play where my family is" I hate to break it to you, but Minny ONLY got them because of family, they said themselves. I said it before, if their families lived in Seattle, WA they'd be playing for the Canucks...if they were from Fort Lauderdale, they be Panthers...what part of that do yo not understand? They didn't go to Minny because of their great team or stellar future...THEY WENT FOR FAMILY! And it took MORE money to get them there! Hey, if their families were from Ann Arbor, MI. guess where they'd be playing? Are you 12?

Hold on now! Everyone Hold On! I admit, I want Holland to trade some of the yoots to get Ryan or Nash or Yandle...but just a minute centcougar. Some of us have said, the yoot movement will not work, they are too green, but there are some who say, they a really good and should be given a chance to prove themselves...ok, nobody knows which side will be correct in the end, but I'll be damned if another teams fan is going to come in here saying Detroit has noone to replace Lidstrom or Stuart and Brunner is the biggest signing so Wings are gonna suck because of their unproven talent....HUH!?!? All this from a guy who touts the Wild's awesome future based on what? Unproven talent! Sure Mikail Granule of Salt is a very VERY good prospect, but so is Nyquist, so is Tatar, so is Mursak... You come in here and say Detroit needs to replace all these guys in order to be good, yet you tout the Wild as perennial Stanley Cup Champs because of unproven NHL talent... Your kid Granook or whatever the hell name it is, has yet to prove anything in the NHL, he could flop or he could excel! NOBODY knows! So don't come in here saying you KNOW that Nyquist or Smith or Brunner are going to flop and the team is gonna suck if Holland doesn't make some moves to get established guys...How dare you! Like I said, your Wild has a 3 year window and its over....you'll say goodbye to Heatley, The Gooch, Clutterbuck soon, you may not even keep your goalie...Your yoots may flop out because they cannot handle the NHL, NOBODY knows what a player is going to bring until they bring it...let's talk next July after we see who is good and who isn't! and for your Young Guns analogy, I wouldn't give a drop of sweat off the guys ******* that made that bucket that I am going to piss in for YOUR future... and before you go quoting me saying trade Mursak, trade Tatar, etc...I never said they weren't NHL ready...I said we have plenty of talent to replace them if they were needed to acquire Nash or Ryan... It's funny how you come here and say one team is gonna suck because of unproven, yet highly touted talent and in the same s*** soiled breath you say another will be Champs with unproven, yet highly touted talent! I pity whoever marries you and if you have children, what's next you voted for the war, now you are against it? Let me quote another movie "Do us a favor, make like a tree and get out of here!"

You must not be referring to Franzine then....

This is a very in depth story, but no mention of Michigan....not that I am doubting, but I though maybe I could find it somewhere... http://sports.espn.go.com/espnmag/story?id=3782270 If anyone can find anything referring to Bobby Ryan living in Michigan, please let me know, I want to see it...