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Semin - Datsyuk - Doan Even better! I admit the Ryan trade is a remote, VERY remote possibility, and odds are Holland stops at Doan or Doan and Semin. Which would be fine and dandy with me! But until we DON'T have Bobby Ryan, a fan can wish....

That was a great video! What memories! The footage of him fighting Coxe and to see #19 and #17 watching..damn I miss that line! Then the goal scored with Fedorov and Konstantinov congratulating him, hell almost forgot he played with those two! He was right there with the start of this dynasty...if he only would've keep himself clean enough to re-sign here instead of leaving... Begs you to question, would he have seen icetime under Scotty Bowman? Ya never know...but ya, definitely one of the greatest Red Wings of all time...at least in the eyes of the fans...

Had the pleasure of meeting him plenty of times...the year he came back and couldn't travel to Canada, he would always come to DTW and fly out to meet the team, I may have been a bit of a stalker, but I would check the flights to see which one he was on and always "ran into him" there. It got to the point to where if I missed him one time, he's ask me the next time I saw him, what happened... Great Great Guy, depsite all his personal issues...wish he never left us for Chicago and I sure wish he never "left" us for Heaven... I love ya Bob, sorry you never got to drive the electric cart!

Here is the offseason of choice after being one of the snubbed teams by Mary Kate and Ashley: Shane Doan Peter Mueller Pavel Kubina Trade, waive or do whatever to make rosters spots for these three and let's rock! I really do wish Holland had the balls to trade Filpulla for Ryan and also trade Franzine for someone else of value! But I'd be happy with just the Ryan trade and the above three UFA signings...

He can get us Bobby Ryan...He is not a 2nd line center here...let's call this the Adam Oates, Jimmy Carson factor, great players with great careers, yet were always playing behind someone...especially Carson, he was behind Yzerman and Fedorov...Filppula will flourish in Anaheim, especially with Selanne...Once Getzlaf leaves next year, Flip will be the #1 center out there, he will never be that here... He will command and get $5M+ next July and for the money, Ryan is more valuable at $5.1M for the next three years HERE than Val will be as the #3 center or on the wing. Maybe this won't happen and we will still have Val..that's fine too, but if Holland really wants that top 6 sniper, he must sacrifice a little depth in order to get it...whether it be Nash or Ryan, he has to do what gets the job done...Mursak and Tatar are ready to be in the NHL, but it won't be here, at least not for awhile...they'll get instant ice in Anaheim....here Tatar is stuck in GR and Mursak will probably get traded or waived anyhow...and who knows, Flip may walk after this year to somewhere he can be a #1 or #2 center...all risks with no reward, trade them now and be rewarded for the next 13 years!

Saying Val Filppula is a wash with Bobby Ryan, you are on crack....Hey, maybe they'll trade us Ryan and a 1st rounder for Flip? Here's the problem, sure Flip and Ryan are the main cogs, but Holland will have to sweetin the deal in order to secure him. Throwing in two NHL ready prospects and a pick should more than entice Murray enough to trade Ryan to us...not unless Columbus offers them Rick Nash... Everything I have said is all speculation, of course, I do not know Mr. Murray, but he had said he wants a 2nd line center and some young talent...Could there be other teams with 2nd line centers they are willing to trade? Of course! I maintain that Holland has the trump in Filppula though, because of Selanne wanting to play with Flip in the NHL. He was asked last trade deadline if he would like to play with Flip and he said that when they play together on team Finland, they have great chemistry and he would enjoy playing in the NHL with him. Selanne has said he'd like to come back for another year and of course he only wants to play in Anaheim. Couple all that together and it's almost like a marriage made in Heaven. Murray gets Flip AND Selanne...PLUS he gets two NHL ready prospects AND a pick...We get Bobby Ryan, 24 year old phenom who is signed for three more years at a great rate and who will help usher in the next 20 years of dominance! We get younger, get a player at a position WE NEED, they get a player at a position THEY NEED and all are happy... Both sides would be crazy not to do this deal....Now, not unless Holland wants Nash more than Ryan, then we are talking a whole new ballgame!

Fil would bring you Ryan...plain and simple... Filppula, Mursak, Tatar, 2nd rounder gets us Bobby Ryan....MAKE THE FLIPPIN TRADE!

I enjoy your enthusiasm! I would love Nash here (or Ryan) and of course we will have to go at Weber with 1000 times the effort we did with Suter...Holland should offer Weber the absolute TOP dollar....TOP! If Holland pulls Nash or Ryan out of his hat....OMG! I say do it...do it now!

Jarnkrok, Pulkkinen, Jurco, Frk, Sheahan, Sproul, Tvrdon, Athanasiou, Bodin, McKee...We Won't Miss Mursak, Tatar or Andersson...

There are lots of options out there. More than we even know. I am not sure Holland will ever move Franzen. He chose to sign him over Hossa and it just seems that if he got rid of him, it would be like admitting a mistake...I wish he'd move Franzen, but....sigh.... Del Zotto would be good and so would McIlrath...I wanted Holland to draft McIlrath but the Rangers swooped him up before he got to Holland...I don't think Holland would've drafted him, but ya, I would love Dylan in a Wings uniform...definitely a youth movement. Same went for Joe Morrow a few years ago, but Pitt took him a couple of picks ahead of Detroit too...

Kindl and brilliant....thats an oxymoron if I ever read one...just never been a Kindl fan, not from the day he was drafted to today...never will be. Just the way it is...

Tatar will be best suited traded somewhere...as will Andersson. There are plenty of prospects left to where we won't miss them. Not including the guys Holland drafted in June...those guys are real diamonds and this will be the best draft class in a long time. I can see almost all of them being NHL players when it's their time. Trading a Mursak, Tatar or an Andersson today will not effect us in 5 years. And in those 5 years, we'd still have Bobby Ryan or Rick Nash on this team tearing it up! Back on topic, again, Tootoo brings a dimension to this team that has been lacking for a long time. I am happy with this signing, he is gonna bring tons of excitement to this team...I just hope fans don't bring any whistles...

Yes, because Doan makes them much better up front... Honestly, it's either Doan or Semin, not both. If Holland signs Doan, then dumps Mursak and Emmerton, when he re-signs Abdelkader there are still 15 forwards. Meaning one of Miller or Eaves are the odd man out. Not unless Holland plans a trade of someone, like Cleary. I'd prefer Doan over Semin because he could help keep the flies off Datsyuk while he is out there, but then again, then potential chemistry with Dats/Semin is intriguing... The only scenario that Holland gets BOTH Doan and Semin causes a lot of current Red Wings a job. You have to figure Sammy and Tootoo are here to stay. The extras are Emmy, Mursak, Miller & Eaves followed by Cleary. Maybe Holland will work on a package trade for a top defenseman, as long as it doesn't include Smith. So if Holland gets Doan, who goes? If Holland gets both Doan/Semin who goes? I'd hate to lose our good bottom 6'ers, but Doan and Semin on this team makes it far better than what it would be without them...Does Nyquist have any free passes left to be sent down? Not that I want him to be, but if he does then that would be one way of clearing a spot....this is the tough part of being a GM, Miller/Eaves/Emmy/Mursak and given a ton to this team, but when players like this are available, and you have a chance to get them, you take it...the best thing Holland can do is, trade those guys to teams that can give them playing time...you won't get much for players that teams know you have to get rid of, but a pick is better than nothing...or risk putting them on waivers, which can be an advantage if they clear then they will still be in your organization...but Holland likes to take care of his players and will try to find homes for these guys...

I would still like to see Mueller signed here...24 years old, loads of potential, and with his health could be had for pretty cheap. That is a win/win situation all around...also Daniel Winnik is a solid winger that is a stay at home player that would add some dimension to this club... I like both of these guys more than Mursak or Emmerton...they'd cost more though...but these are just two examples proving that there are plan c's out there that would help our team...

All the Tootoo naysayers are going to be pleasantly surprised this season! He just came of a career year and that was in and out of the lineup. I am sure he may be one of the guys rotating with Miller and Eaves, but if he finds chemistry with Helm and Abby (or wherever he ends up) he will surely find himself in the lineup more than out. I cannot wait for that freight train to level Parise followed up by a Kronwall! Holland should sign Barch for GR and bring him up each game against Minnesota so when our guys target miss prissy too good for Detroit, Barch will be there to whoop the ass of anyone wanting to step up to defend her...

Gonna throw an under the radar name out there: Alexandre Picard... Defense 6'3" 215lbs. He isn't your star studded defender, but he seems like a big stay at home guy who just goes about his business he is still young at 26, has 253 NHL games experience...could be a guy to come in to round out the bottom pairing if Holland sticks with Q's awarded contract and cannot land a big name via trade... he is a UFA and only made $600,000 last season in Pitt. Any thoughts?

I bet if he gets snubbed by Doan, he will wait for the CBA, as will most other GM's before even trying to trade for someone like Nash or Ryan or Yandle...

No he is not a Zetterberg...he is though a whole different Dimension to this team...he would be the power forward we have missed since Shanny left. He would NOT be on the 3rd line. He would get at least 2ns line minutes, if not play on Pav's wing. The joke is, standing pat and giving Tatar and Andersson playing time....that is the joke. Tatar and Andersson should be moved in a package deal for Ryan or Yandle or Nash... Detroit does not rebuild, they reload. It's been their winning model since the 90's. A steady influx of UFA vets and bringing kids up...Nyquist and Smith are the kids this year, Doan SHOULD be the UFA. He is here for 2-3 years, Holland goes hard after Perry or Getzlaf and Weber next off season, and then implements Plans b,c,d,e,f-Zz. You will never see this team with all 30 and under players on it...there will always be 2 or 3 players over 35. Holland needs to trade for Ryan, sign Doan, sign Kubina, re-sign Abby and then Q if the awarded contract is feasible.

Doan for 3 years please....not just a one year chance at a Cup....he'll want to go where he can win a Cup, but he will need a year just to get into our system 100%. Three years $5.5M please! Still leaves plenty of cap room...we need to get these types of UFA's in here, because they attract others...If Doan comes here, has a great time and gets into playoffs, guarantee he is respected enough among the players that UFA's next July will be calling him asking about his experience and if Detroit is the place to be...I don't think Semin would have the same affect, lets say, on Corey Perry or Ryan Getzlaf or even Shea Weber as Shane Doan would...just my $.02 worth....

I see what you did there....Semin.....Happy Ending....

GD! Everytime I think about it, I am still STEAMING MAD about Suter choosing the Wild over the Wings... It was down to Detroit/Wild and he chose them....f***! This is finally sinking in so much that I am boiling! WTF is going on here? Not even a thought from Schultz, barely a thought from Parise and a late decision from Suter breaking the hearts of millions of Wings fans around the world... I dunno, maybe the last 4 days of 100 degree weather has boiled my brain ( I do work outside and it has sucked! Tonight feels wonderful) anyway, I am just so mad...and feel cheated and double crossed and stabbed in the back and given the cold shoulder... f***!!!! Sorry...but who says no to Detroit? This sucks....

They do have the best prospect pool, ya know? Calling centcougar....calling centcougar, whats the inside word on this?

We'll know something monday for sure....one of three things.... 1. Doan re-signs in Phoenix....2. He Signs here.... 3. Holland low balls again (for lack of better term) and Doan goes to Pittsburgh... If Holland does not get Doan then this is the team you will have come october...adding Q and Abby as well....

Does anyone know the absolute MOST any one player can make on a team?

^ I agree too...too ( ) I don't understand the hate for this guy...27, in his prime, coming off a career year (30 points) he can only help us, as long as Babcock plays him...