LeftWinger

Scenario if we do not trade for Ryan/Nash or Yandle... sign Semin, Doan, Quincey (prick) and Kubina. That is with no big player trades. This still bumps some forwards out, so they either ger waived or traded for picks...

Lets let this thread go the way of the Suter thread...disappear. We no longer care about nor have any interest in Zach or Ryan...they turned us away and they are now public enemy #1 & #1a...cannot wait for a Parise Kronwalling!

Not that I am saying this guy is in the know, but Suter could have very well agreed to be a Wing before he was talked out of it by a jilted and jaded Zach Parise and his meddling in-laws...and he would have gotten away with it too!

If I am trading with Winnipeg for a Defenseman, I am trading for Zach Bogosian...

If Q gets awarded a contract Kenny likes....sign him, sign Semin, Doan and Kubina....I can see Kenny doing that... Not my wish for this team, but Semin and Doan will help out for sure! That's 70-80 goals right there!

I just hope he is not awarded $3.5M or more...if he is I would hope Holland lets him go UFA..that is just my opinion...odds are he will get $4M+ though.....yech!

or even LESS if the Cap goes down with the new CBA...You cannot go thru the season with $16M in capspace...$6M maybe, but not $16M... Kenny must sign more players...

Exactly...I believe that other teams would want him in return in most trade scenarios...if they don't ask about him, I am keeping him...

Nothing sours yourself to a team and organization than filing for arbitration...poor poor Q...

anything over $3.5M and Kenny needs to let him become a UFA...we really didn't need that 1st round pick anyhow, Kenny drafted some great youngsters! He probably would've traded it for a second 2nd round pick anyhow...trust Kenny...just no Q at $3.5M or higher... Muskegon is close to Wisconsin, which is close to St. Paul....The State of Hockey....Team USA teammates....just saying....where is centcougar with that inside info?

Ok, there are two of these threads, which one do we starting talking in and which one is gonna be deleted? Anyhow, I hope that Q gets awarded a lessor contract than he was offered! Just like Hudler did in 2009, Holland offered Hudler $3.5M and he went to arbitration (before bolting to Russia) and was awarded $2.8M.. Holland does have to option to refuse the awarded contract and let Q become a UFA...or he can trade his rights, RIGHT NOW! If Holland accepts the arbitrator's contract he cannot be traded for a year...

to ANA : Val Filppula, Tomas Tatar, Jan Mursak, Justin Abdelkader, 2nd round pick to DET : Bobby Ryan and to PHX : Johan Franzine, Joakim Andersson, Dan Cleary, Kyle Quincey, 2nd round pick to DET : Keith Yandle Sign Semin and Doan and Mueller...(and no I do not hate Abby) I just do not think Holland would or ever would give up Franzine or Filppula and that there will define this off season...yes, he went hard after Suter, but the show must go on and he needs to unleash his balls even more!

it's not Abby hate, it more so acknowledging the fact that he is good in his role and knowing that if we were to get Ryan or Yandle or Nash, Abby would probably be asked for in the return package...we are just being realistic. I hope he isn't asked for and he stays here. But if you are getting one of those three guys in return...I'd have to say goodbye to him.

Blah! I can see him wanting to play with Malkin as well...but Malkin is more of the sniper himself right? Just like Ovi. While Dats can sure put his share in the net, he is more of a setup man and Semin would score more goals playing with him...but if he goes to Pit, then I can't say I blame him either, especially if they are offering more money... That would be fine, Holland would have to for sure land Doan and then Nash or Ryan...just like Parise, Semin would be great here, but it wouldn't mean the end of the Wings if he weren't...

That could be what he is doing, but I am sure Doan has a list of where he'd like to play and his agent only called those teams. I cannot see his agent calling Carolina if Doan would never sign there...

Yes, it has been reported that Doans agent has called Holland a few times already expressing intetest in coming here if he leaves...

Oops....EVER were...

Just imagine 40 from Semin, 30 from Doan and potential 50 from Nash (or 40 from Ryan) The LGW users will be wondering who Hudler and Franzine every were.... Hey bamawing, I was in your state for the first time ever last weekend, Decatur, loved it! I couldn't understand the gas station attendant too good, but I was too busy being amazed by the price of $2.80 per gallon to care!

I agree, I prefer to have him on our team...I just feel he may be asked about in any trade involving Nash/Ryan or Yandle... By all means if we get to keep him, I am seriously looking forward to Abby/Helm/Tootoo!

before anyone jumps on me about Tatar, remember there is still Jurco, Jarnkrok, Pulkkinen, Nyquist and Sheahan...not to mention soon, Frk, Atahanasiou, and Bodin (who I think will surprise everyone!) We have an expendable prospect or two up front...utilizing Andersson, Mursak and Tatar in a trade won't be the end of the world...

While I would be perfectly happy landing Nash, I feel it would cost less to get Ryan...then we could trade for Yandle...but if Holland lands Nash and it cost BOTH Fil and Franzine then I can see Holland signing Q and Kubina for the D... I think Franzine could be spared in this deal though...Filppula, Abdelkader, Tatar, Kindl for Nash...I still prefer Ryan and Yandle, but I trust Kenny! What would you guys think if Kenny got a package of Nash and Wisniewski in return? I know Wiz is at $5.5M...

Sign Semin, Sign Doan, Sign Mueller... Trades: to ANA : Val Filppula, Tomas Tatar, Jan Mursak, Justin Abdelkader, 2nd round pick to DET : Bobby Ryan and to PHX : Johan Franzine, Joakim Andersson, Dan Cleary, Kyle Quincey, 2nd round pick to DET : Keith Yandle FORWARDS Alexander Semin ($4.000m) / Pavel Datsyuk ($6.700m) / Shane Doan ($5.000m) Bobby Ryan ($5.100m) / Henrik Zetterberg ($6.083m) / Damien Brunner ($1.350m) Mikael Samuelsson ($3.000m) / Peter Mueller ($3.500m) / Todd Bertuzzi ($2.075m) Jordin Tootoo ($1.900m) / Darren Helm ($2.125m) / Gustav Nyquist ($0.875m) Drew Miller ($0.838m) / Patrick Eaves ($1.200m) / DEFENSEMEN Niklas Kronwall ($4.750m) / Keith Yandle ($5.250m) Ian White ($2.875m) / Brendan Smith ($0.875m) Jakub Kindl ($0.883m) / Jonathan Ericsson ($3.250m) Ryan Sproul ($0.925m) / GOALTENDERS Jimmy Howard ($2.250m) Jonas Gustavsson ($1.500m) EDIT: If they'd take Kindl instead of Quincey, that's even better, but doubt they would...

Yet another playoff team that lost out to family...the Wild were the benefactors of being in Minneapolis...

I'd give him 5 years $20M, but NO to a NMC/NTC...

I don't think it is hate, well not from me, but he is good and would probably be asked for in any trade scenario.... To Drake...one could hope that the youth would grow together and one day become great together...but we are not the Edmonton Oilers and Holland will not go decades without a Cup or years without a playoff appearance. Holland will also not go with a youth movement with over $16M in cap space...besides trading Fil and Franzine in separate deals for Ryan and Yandle is getting younger...