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Well, you don't have a choice now do you? I would say Detroit has a very good shot at Semin....but I haven't heard anything going on with Holland for 24 hours now....what is up I wonder? I know he has to wait until the 9th for Doan to decide...sure glad he wants to come here! Doan and Semin FTW! BTW, if Semin signs here and stays healthy, he will outscore Parise....hell he nearly did last year...Semin had .7 PPG and Parise had .8 PPG... I would call Semin at $4M a hell of a steal compared to Parise at $7.5M...

Well, if you want to get technical, sure $8M over 13 years is not that much, but the Wings didn't offer Parise that much, they offered him what they felt he was worth and that was nowhere near what they felt Suter was worth. So right away we weren't getting Parise and I hate to burst your bubble, but direct from Ryan Suter's own lips he said he was leaning towards Detroit but got talked into Minny by Parise and his own family, so spin it how ever you want, technically Detroit didn't lose out to the Wild, they lost out to family...which I for one can respect. You speak of Dead WIngs 2.0, well at least we have been there are climbed the Summit and still make the playoffs every year, what exactly has MInny accomplished? You started out in a dead era of your own and have failed to climb out of it yet...let us know when you have reached the summit... back on the subject of Parise signing, he even publicly said, if it weren't for family, he'd be back in NJ...so I really don't see the Wild beating anyone there either, NJ and all others, again, lost out to family...so what was it exactly you guys won again? You got two high profile UFA's who, if not for family, would have taken lessor offers to play somewhere else....wear your badge proud centcougar, and hopefully it works out for you, because honestly, I'd rather Minny win a Cup than see Cindy Lee Crysby raise one again... and BTW, Wild have $2.1M in cap space...say goodbye to some players...

Two things, one, it's not sour grapes (there are some guys sour) it's more that we can not figure out why these two, with their destiny's in their own hands, chose to go to a team that they HOPE will turn around in the next 5 years to become a perennial playoff team rather than go to one of three other teams that are already perennial playoff teams... I understand family ties, but those family ties pretty much guaranteed at least half of their contracts they will miss the playoffs and Ron Paul has a better chance of becoming President in 2032 than they do ever winning a Cup...you cannot argue history, how long until ownership realizes that they need more than these two to win? And now with very little cap space available, they are hogtied...BTW, Danny Heatley helped convince them, well Danny Heatley has been mentioned in trade talks, so much for that angle...it already starts to fall apart... I think ownership was so hell bent on outbidding everyone, that once they signed the papers, they stepped back the next day and said..."Oh My God! We have over $35M of our Cap wrapped up in 5 players....Oh s*** this better work soon or we'll have to dump salary soon!" edit: I forgot #2, at least now you are coming here a posting as a Minn fan and not posing as a Wings fan...that is step one to recovery!

Now is the time Ilitch needs to convince Dekeyser to NOT go back for his senior year...

Actually, they only received higher offers from teams that had no chance to sign them...the contenders all offered them around $90M. Minny had to outbid those teams to land them. I am glad they didnt go to Pit or Chi. Congrats you got your guys, but we'll see how long it takes for them to win a playoff round or even make it. Not landing Suter hurt, but we still have $16M to try to get better, you have $2M and your D is pretty suspect after Suter....He wanted to come to Detroit, but was talked out of it by Paruse....for your teams sake you better hope they win soon, 5 years of no playoffs or 1st round exits will sour the mood pretty quick...

He needs to deal for Ryan, then sign Semin, Doan, Mueller.and then try for.Yandle.....

Filppula and some prospects will get us Ryan..... I say do it. You then sign Mueller to give us 4 legit centers.... Datsyuk, Zetterberg, Helm & Mueller. Trade a Franzen package for Yandle, sign Doan, sign Semin..... I think that lineup is very, very competitive. Playoffs for sure....better than Minny's lineup...

With all that cap tied up in 5 players, I bet the Wild ownership are even looking at each other and saying...."This better frickin work!" Meanwhile, I think Holland is glad he doesn't have to pay either of them $7.5M for the next 13 years...I am mad about Suter though, I wish he had his own brain...

I would be happy with Hedman or Brewer...

If it gets a Cup, then I am all for it....I can deal with getting an aging vet for a couple of years, every couple of years to put us over the top in the quest...he would still be only the 3rd player over 35+ on our team...Semin, Yandle, Mueller and Ryan are young. FORWARDS Alexander Semin ($4.000m) / Pavel Datsyuk ($6.700m) / Shane Doan ($5.000m) Bobby Ryan ($5.100m) / Henrik Zetterberg ($6.083m) / Damien Brunner ($1.350m) Mikael Samuelsson ($3.000m) / Peter Mueller ($3.500m) / Todd Bertuzzi ($2.075m) Jordin Tootoo ($1.900m) / Darren Helm ($2.125m) / Gustav Nyquist ($0.875m) Drew Miller ($0.838m) / Patrick Eaves ($1.200m) / DEFENSEMEN Niklas Kronwall ($4.750m) / Keith Yandle ($5.250m) Ian White ($2.875m) / Brendan Smith ($0.875m) Jakub Kindl ($0.883m) / Jonathan Ericsson ($3.250m) Ryan Sproul ($0.925m) / GOALTENDERS Jimmy Howard ($2.250m) Jonas Gustavsson ($1.500m) ------ CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter) (these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion) SALARY CAP: $70,200,000; CAP PAYROLL: $66,304,167; BONUSES: $745,000 CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $3,895,833 Gone in trades are Filppula, Franzine, Mursak, Emmerton, Abdelkader, Quincey, Cleary....whatever combo gets us Yandle and Ryan, I don't care. Filppula being the main one going for Ryan and Franzine main one going for Yandle. I would say Quincey would go to Phoenix as well and Abby to Anaheim...throw in a prospect to each to sweetin the pot...Mursak, Emmeton and Cleary can go for picks for all I care.... BTW, I am going back to a dream roster in my sig, since deleting it didn't help in getting Suter...

I understand the concerns, but Hudler has never come anywhere near 70 points or 40 goals, let alone 84 points... Semin with Datsyuk will find us our first 40 goal scorer since Hossa....Doan will chip in 30...Ryan could top 100 points here with Pav or Z... Yandle will be top paring minutes and should get 40 points there... Semin has seen a drop in production the same reason Ovechkin's did...they tried to change his game, here he will be let loose as the sniper he is... Yes I am being optimistic, but I can see it happening...but he needs to take about $4M in salary...or less.

It is intriguing to know that Doan agent has contacted the Wings several times...lets us know that Doan (if he leaves) wants to come to a winner...if he does it'll be fun to watch Doan get his first Cup before the bobsie twins do...

Ok, trade Filppula plus for Ryan....enough to gain Cap space...sign Doan, trade for Yandle, sign Semin & Mueller. I just don't know what the "plus" will be for Ryan or what Yandle would cost us....I think Doan and Semin will cost less than $9M together....

I agree that Nash is the obvious choice, BUT he is also the most expensive in assets...Bobby Ryan is the hands down cheapest in assets choice of the two...ANA wants a 2nd line center, perfect, Franzine is natural center and Filppula is a great center...they would lean towards Filppula because of his connection with Selanne, who then would for sure come back for another year because he has expressed before how much he would want to play with Filppula...I am just worried about the extras needed to complete this trade... Filppula plus what? in return for Bobby Ryan... Also, getting Ryan may help us woo Getzlaf or Perry if they choose UFA next year... I like the Yandle trade too, I just don't think we'd be able to get him without giving up Smith and we do not want to give anymore signed D away...If they would take Quincey in a package instead, that would be great! So, trade for Ryan....sign Doan....sign Semin...sign Mueller (to replace our lost center position) and trade for Yandle...

Trade for Yandle....sign Doan, Sign Semin...sign Mueller...let's hope Phoenix doesn't ask for Smith...I have a feeling Nash or Ryan will be too expensive...

What's funny is, three guys that could have won multiple Cups and would have been HUGE parts of a winning machine have all chosen to go to losing franchises in the HOPE that things get turned around by time they retire. Schultz - By time these kids get their act together on the same page, they will be too expensive for EDM to keep them... Parise - Not worth $7.5M, but Minn has proven year after year that they give up on their young talent when things don't after a few years....ex. Brent Burns Suter - See Above, plus Suter really wanted to be in Detroit but was convinced by his BFF and his in-laws to sign in Minny....this will be a regret he will never let them live down... I am sure glad Suter doesn't do roids...

Call Anaheim right now and package Filppula for Ryan...they like Filppula, and if they get him, they will also get Selanne back who would love to play with Fil. I would still give Jeremy Welsh a call to add to our growing youth, sign Semin, pursue Doan HARD! Again, give Carle a nice FAT contract....I hate to bring this up, but Holland has always wanted Kubina too...could be something he would do...

Suter can have been a part of our success for the next 13 years. He would have be an intricle part of our defense for the next 13 years...The Wings can a will win without him....unfortunately, he cannot win without us...if it were down to Nashville, Detroit or Minn, the obvious choice was Detroit....look at the track record, we never miss the playoffs, Holland has Iltich's wallet in his hand to make sure this remain competitve every year...are they Stanley Cup favorites every year? Of course not, but once you make the playoffs, anything can happen, and they make the playoffs....always....Minnesota doesn't. 3 appearances the last 11 years. ONCE past the 1st round... I don't need to quote Detroit's accolades in the last 11 years, but if ANYONE was or is worried about what will happen with Lidstrom gone, once Dats retires and Z retires....let's just look at what happened when we lost Yzerman, Shanahan, Fedorov, Hull, Robitaille, Hasek (the first time,) Konstantinov, Kozlov, Larionov....what happened since then? Conference Finals Stanley Cup Champion Stanley Cup Runner Up ...and then a couple of early exits... setback? Sure, but between 2002 and 2007 what happened? 1st round loss, 2nd round loss, 1st round loss... Point is, the history has proven that Holland will always keep this team competitive EVERY year. Ilitch has an open wallet up to the Cap, every year! Guarantee, they have a plan right now and if the feel the price is right, Rick Nash or Bobby Ryan will be on this team...if they chose the UFA route, they will pitch their best at Semin, Doan, Mueller, Winnick, et al... Sure Suter would have helped, but now they have to persevere and find that next guy to help. I'd give Carle $5M, inquire about Yandle or Bogosian or Bouwmeester... Holland will fill this team and will keep this team a perennial playoff team....history has proven this, and history has proven that Minnesota will not....especially now with half their Cap tied up in 5 guys...

Bet it... Suter was coming here, but just because Holland knew Parise wasn't worth $7.5M, then Suter said forget it. Now when the Wild wins nothing in 13 years, he will be looking at Parise saying, I stuck up for your ass and we still don't have a Cup...Thanks! f*** off both of them....I hope they are happy with thier wives choosing their lives....poosies...

Wings will win 2 Cups before Minn makes it out of the 2nd round....

Besides, Lids has a mansion for sale....

Well, not Franzine thats for sure...

Nope cannot forget Mattias Ritola in 2009 so 08-09 wins....

as much as I like the Gustavsson signing, something tells me that this goalie would let in less goals....by distraction alone!