KrazyGangsta

Are you serious lol? We're at least an easy top 5 team in the western conference. The only major team that improved this off season is Minnesota and they stlil aren't top five in my opinion, sure they will make the playoffs but nothing more.

To be honnest, I was surprised as hell to see Nash signing that big contract a couple of years back. I mean how can anyone make a commitment that long to the Blue Jackets. He should of sticked with a 3 year deal to see where the team is going at least he would of had an escape. Now if nobody wants to pay up to get him, his stuck in his blue jacket.

It's really sad people seem to think the real life of a GM is like the games in ea sports LOL!

He really needs to blow the coaches away or else I highly doubt he will be in the lineup for game one. Sounds like he wouldn't stick around to play in the AHL if he weren't to make the team.

I highly doubt the cap does go down even with a new CBA. I mean there the ones putting it up each year. If there's teams doing bad then it wouldn't keep going up. I mean sure there are markets that are not doing as great as other ones but they have the revenue sharing that helps them out. Let's just hope teams like Phoenix end up going to other markets so they can actually make some money instead of hurting the league. If in fact it does go down, I think they would allow teams to buy out players without having a cap hit penalty for the remaining years, IMO it's the best way to go like that teams will be paying for there mistake and will not be penalized for long term considering the circumstances.

I hope to see cleary bounce back and I think he will be able to! I would go with: Abdelkader Helm Cleary Tootoo Eaves Miller

No I think they handled it pretty professionaly took some time but I really think it was the Wings that slowed down the process. I think the Wings pitching for Suter and the interest was drawing Suter ... at the end a little overpaying by Minny & help from Parise it was a done deal. Had Suter came to Detroit, Parise would be a Penguin.

Totally agree, there are a lot of reasons players would chose small markets like this. Being in Minnesota they are the superstars! In Detroit there's Datsyuk Zetterberg Kronwall ... home town fans they will be behind there shadow for a while. On top of that, Suter knows the reason Detroit wants him to join was to replace Lidstrom, meaning the expectation are very high meanwhile in Minnesota making the playoffs is good enough! Get over people, who cares about Suter or Parise ... if you we're really a fan of them maybe we can sign them after there contract is up ... since everyone is implying all Holand does is sign old people!

WoW 25 years and I've never seen the panic level this high for our fans!

Just like the past 10 years right?

Doan would be a good pick up even at 35+ but I highly doubt he would come to Detroit, I would think with our current situation he would prefer going to Pittsburgh. Let's be honnest as we stand Pittsburgh gives him a better opportunity to win a stanley cup then we do.

1- First of all we all knew that Parise was our second option all along, meaning that our only chance to land him was for Suter to convince him to come along which worked the other way around ... Parise convincing Suter to join him in the wild. We offered 3 million less then the Wild, if Parise was a FA next year, Suter would of been a Red Wing on July 1. Well tough luck for us, we just go to develop and keep our own players. It can't be Hollands fault, he was actually the only GM that flew to see Suter in person and gave his best shot at the end of the line it's there decision to come or not but Holland did his part. 2- Of course I will defend my GM that got us 3 stanley cups and assisted for another one! We have never missed the playoffs in his reign as manager, so technically he hasn't been doing anything wrong. How has he actually dropped the ball in the past 3-4 years, you are aware what a salary cap is right and you do know that losing 2-3 players from your current roster is not worth signing one free agent? 3- Trade for Suter, you are not actually serious are you? Suter would be 24 if I'm not mistaking meaning his price would of been very high and you actually think Nashville would of traded to us, a division team. I mean the things you guys come up with is really weak. Here's a reality check everyone YOU WILL NEVER EVER FIND A REPLACEMENT FOR LIDSTROM, even if there was someone tagged along side him. Kronwall has been under Lidstrom so if we go by what your suggesting, we all ready have Kronwall & Ericsson that have been on the team and could of learned by Lidstrom all this time together. Unofortunently it just doesn't work out that way, some people just have that superstart status like Lidstrom and some people just don't. Even if Suter had came year ago and was trained under Lidstrom, there's nothing guaranteeing me that he would be at his level. 4- The way your thinking is very immature, you think by grabbing all quality free agents it would guarantee your chances to win a cup or be competitive. How many times did we see the Rangers fall in that trap? Let me put you another scernario, if we had Suter and Parise signed each at 7.5m / year as they are now with minny the way your suggesting. That would be about 15 million in cap space, which we currently have 16 if I'm not mistaking. That would mean we need to clear cap space to sign Quincey Abdelkader ... meaning we need to get rid of some roster players. Filpulla / Franzen are the most obvious choices ... Let's say we trade, Franzen ... 4 million off the books (Don't forget we can't be getting anything in return because our cap is full). Resign 2 for Abdel, 2 for Quincey " I'm being cheap here " = Cap Room = 0 Following year = 12 million in cap space ... Ian White (3 - 4 milion) - Jimmy Howard (4-5 million) - Valteri Filppula (4 - 5 million) - Jakub Kindl (1 million) - Brendan Smith (1 million). So where's the money to sign our own players or any money to sign free agents? You would be here next year and complaining about how Ken Holland dropped the ball by wasting our cap, losing our own free agents. Even if sign Jimmy Howard and Valteri Filpula ... We still lost 2-3 players without adding any new. Assuming you only sign Howard and go for a quality free agent which would want 7-8 million a year as well. You are still a loser. Think smart, Holland doesn't just think for today but for tomorrow as well. I'm so glad we didn't get Parise at that price, sure I would want Suter but come on ... his not even top 5 D in the league and is almost getting Crosby money. Wake up Red Wing Fans, Datsyuk Zetterberg Lidstrom aren't free agents they are homegrown. It disgust me to see our own fans bashing the #1 manager in the league.

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Good pickup for the price. Hope Guillaume is working on his skating this off season.

Flip is at best a second line center by trading him and getting a 1st line caliber winger it would be a win for us.

I think we need to find at least one decent defensive stay at home defenseman. I'm not worried about puck moving defensman we are pretty equiped with those. Kronwall - Quincey - Smith - Kindl. I'm looking some more like Stuart (We sure are going to miss his presence).

If I'm Holland I'd go for this trade: Rick Nash & Fedor Tyutin for Filppula - Quincey's rights - Tatar / Pulki - 1st Round - 2nd round next year ... something like that lol

Unless it's a 3-4 million for 2-3 years don't get this done Kenny !

dont worry he will come here!

I'm sure he all ready knew the Wings would offer him the most $$$ and he knew he is coming to Detroit his just using his time to boost his salary up nothing else. Worst case scenario he doesn't come to the Wings and still gets his $$$ somewhere else.

Everyone's waiting for Parise to sign ... getting him would mean not trading anyone to get a great caliber winger ... When his signed look for Nash's trade to come soon.

This is pathetic, if I'm a free agent I would all ready have an idea where I would want to go play.

Send him to Colombus lol.

Why wouldn't we trade Filpulla for Ryan ... Ryan > Filppula it's a automatic upgrade for a player. Filppula has nothing more to offer us then what we've all ready seen from him. Trade him, pick up Doan and Suter and end of story!

What are you talking about we have all the pieces and more to orchestrate that trade ... but are we ready to pull the trigger that's the question.