Echolalia

howd you get that 2008 badge? I've been here since 07!

1) how is this going to affect the quality of ice at the new arena 2) downtown Detroit is going to be busy as f*** between the red wings pistons lions tigers and all the concerts/plays that are happening within a two block radius

I remember from a few years back there was some stipulation that a player claimed on waivers had to stay on the NHL roster for some period of time as well. I don't trust my memory entirely but with Ken Daniels and Khan both supporting my vague recollection I feel more comfortable believing it to be true.

Maybe its they can't be sent down to a minor league team then. I honestly can't recall. krsmith will let us know

Is there a rule regarding players who are picked up from waivers that they have to play in a certain number of games/cannot be sent down? I don't know the specific details but there is definitely some stipulation.

It's also a play on dojo which makes me stomach it better than when I first read it and didn't listen to the phonetics of it.

currently leading the lead (and handedly) in goals against and save percentage.

I agree with this 100%, but out of the three of them I think Mantha is the one most physically built to translate his skills to the NHL level. The guy is a behemoth.

yeah that honestly didnt look bad at all.

I gotta say Helm has been earning every penny of that contract so far

Ehhhhh I mean Mrazek made some good saves, but he also let in some stinkers. He needs to be better as well:

Yikes Oulette.

So far this season (and much of last year as well) the Wings have really struggled with pressure. Like horribly bad. vanek has been making his presence felt

The second half of it at least

Just tuned in. What happened

This looks like Blahsill drew names from a hat. Whatever. I try not to comment on how lines should or should not be because they rarely seem to work in reality how I feel they should work in theory.

I wish there was a stat that measured who has the puck before and after player X does. It would be the ultimate possession metric and I think it would really exploit a lot of flaws in some of our players.

I thought Boyle's goal was weak too

lol

lol Maltby a legend

Nice! Glendening forcing the penalty and Vanek making them pay for it.

Plus/minus and corsi are flawed for similar reasons. Corsi is essentially a +/- of shot attempts.

I'm eager to see what Vanek and Nielsen can do tonight

Yeah I've noticed that also. Other than that and hopping to the last unread post issue I think its a nice upgrade

We gotta be careful with exactly what these advanced stats are measuring. Team shot attempt differential is a loose association with possession at best, and its skewed by a lot of things. For example, Pulkkinen had a higher percentage of offensive zone starts than any other forward save for Mantha and Cole, who combined played less than half the games Pullkinen did in that time. He also had very few defensive zone starts in his time with Detroit. Its much easier for your team to shoot more than your opponent when coach is putting you out there 25 feet from the opponent's net, and 175 feet from your own. He was also shooting the puck literally any chance he could, whether it was a legitimate scoring opportunity or some ill-advised, low-percentage shot from the boards with no net support. I wouldn't call Pulkkinen a possession player at all. In fact he probably raised my blood pressure more than anyone else on the team the last two years because more opportunities seemed to die off his stick than anyone else on the team, and besides for the fact that he was a one-trick pony, I suspect his tendency to end offensive zone opportunity was another reason why he was waived. But yes I will admit, for the situations he was put on the ice, and the teammates he was put on the ice with, and the opposition he was played against, and the specific instructions he was given to shoot the puck whenever physically possible, when he was on the ice he and his line tended to attempt shots more than the opposition, for whatever that's worth.