IceMunkee 15 Report post Posted June 27, 2007 Didn't Mason get like, one third place vote? He shouldn't have even gotten that since he didn't even play half the season. There's a huge difference between Brodeur's .922 SV% over 78 games and Mason's .925 over 40 games. The Preds better hope this guy is the real deal and not a career backup who had a good run last year. I am with you on this. To compare goalie stats with guys that platooned all season as opposed to guys like Brodeur and Louie. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Opie 308 Report post Posted June 27, 2007 Louie??? Luongo?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eva unit zero 271 Report post Posted June 27, 2007 I'm not saying it's a rule, it's my opinion. Playing half the season in my opinion doesn't deserve Vezina consideration because there's a huge difference between putting up good numbers over 40 games and over 60-70. Furthermore, Vezina votes don't make someone a top ten goalie. All it means is someone voted for him. Mason is a question mark for me simply because he's 31 years old and has never started more than 40 games in one season. He looked good this year, but I think the first year as the starter for any goalie leaves a bit of a question mark until they prove they can carry the load of a full season. I wasn't making some huge knock against Mason. Backstrom played one game more than Mason, for the record. But I wasn't part of the crowd saying we should get Backstrom to replace Hasek, though it doesn't surprise me. It's the Manny Legace phenomenon. A goalie puts together a good half season and everyone thinks he should win the Vezina. Backstrom had great numbers over 41 games with the boring and seriously defensive minded Minnesota Wild. That doesn't mean he won't be a good starter, but he's still a question mark in my book until he handles the workload of a starter. Backstrom started fewer games and played fewer minutes than Mason. And I will remind you, I didn't say my opinion was that Mason was a top ten guy; that's how the votes shook out. My question to you was, why Mason and not Vokoun? Two arguments could be made for it..Mason was voted in by someone from Nashville, or someone not from Nashville. In the former, the argument is that the voter was being a homer. Which begs the question of why Mason over Vokoun? In the latter, the argument is that Mason's stellar stats over a half season earned him a vote. My point about bringing up the Vezina voting was that Mason, and NOT Vokoun, had received a vote. Which means that moving Vokoun can't really be called a 'firesale' as Mason is much cheaper and had a better season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haroldsnepsts 4,826 Report post Posted June 27, 2007 Backstrom started fewer games and played fewer minutes than Mason. And I will remind you, I didn't say my opinion was that Mason was a top ten guy; that's how the votes shook out. My question to you was, why Mason and not Vokoun? Two arguments could be made for it..Mason was voted in by someone from Nashville, or someone not from Nashville. In the former, the argument is that the voter was being a homer. Which begs the question of why Mason over Vokoun? In the latter, the argument is that Mason's stellar stats over a half season earned him a vote. My point about bringing up the Vezina voting was that Mason, and NOT Vokoun, had received a vote. Which means that moving Vokoun can't really be called a 'firesale' as Mason is much cheaper and had a better season. Why Mason and not Vokoun? who knows? Why did Manny Legace get a Vezina vote a couple seasons ago when he clearly isn't a Vezina worthy goaltender? As I said before, I think the strongest theory to explain the vote is the love of the backup. He gets to come in and save the day, where Vokoun is a known quantity from actually starting with the Preds for several years. So Mason puts together half a good season and suddenly everyone thinks he's the guy, because in the unknown they see potential. Whereas Vokoun actually has a track record. I understand what you're saying, but I don't think one third place Vezina vote doesn't make it a firesale. Getting rid of the guy who has done a great job starting for your team for seven seasons to replace him with a guy who played great for half a season is definitely a gamble, and one done for financial reasons. As for "firesale," it's just semantics at that point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Opie 308 Report post Posted June 27, 2007 Nashville will miss Vokoun, maybe they are thinking the money they will be saving will help them not go on sale. But if you get rid of one of the main guys, if not he main guy, responsible for your team being anywhere near good, losing is not going to help you make money. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
