Anyone else tired of the Samuelson bashing?

[Opie 308]

Yeah I still read most of the site and threads on the regular, but outside of today rarely if ever post anymore. It just started to seem more annoying and alot less fun. One reason for that is exactly what you were talking about in your original post. There's nothing wrong with critism, like Osgod's post. No, if it's bothering you enough that you want to comment who's to stop you? But he of all people should recognize unwarrented bashing over critsim as I'm assuming one of his favorite players is Osgood. And even if your the type of person that has to totally rip on someone for whatever reason, okay state/slander your case, but it's when it's piled on and a daily occurance of not only sammy bashing but other worn out topics that make a great and informative site stale and unreadable. As far as lilja goes, that seires wasn't his fault, hell he was mins. away from becoming a hero, boy would those threads have been sweet to read all the flip floppers on them. Besides, where was everyone else, why was the last man bringing up the puck out of the zone? Why was the support breaking up ice before the zone was cleared? They teach you that crap in mites, but anyway.......

That thought has popped into my head in the recent days, (Not posting) for the most part this board used to rock. Back in the early 00's when this board first started booming ( I caught the tail end of the boom, I wasn't an original LGWer but closer than most that now post here) you could rely on great information and the occasional DRW02 post that was as annoying as these but it was only one of two posters. People supporting other teams were on here in droves, because we all would talk about an upcoming game or series in a respectful tone. Now it has become who can ***** the loudest. I mean seriously people have come on here and complained that the wings aren't dirty or that they don't fight (which I get if you like it, but saying that is why they lose the cup is a bad argument seeing as most enforcers don't play in the post season.)

Some on here have even said they wish the wings were more like the flyers, if you like their style of play so much root for them, the wings have not been like that in my memory, even Probie wasn't malicious, he was a bad ass, but he wasn't swinging his stick, or trying to decapitate players.

Some times I read this board and wonder why I even bother. And then instinctively the next morning I get to work get coffee and check LGW!!

And the logic people give is absurd, you may politely say hey there is another thread on this, and the response you get is well, I am talking about how x player sucks at doing Y that thread is he sucks in general. Or You don't like don't open my thread.

But society isn't that different, we as Americans have become accustom to things being our way and getting all that we want not just what we need, so when some one wants to post a thread bitching about pop up ads or ads that make noise and annoy them, but they won't donate money to help the board.

Sorry getting off of my soap box now, not that I finished my thought, but this is going nowhere and I have to go for lunch.

[bringback91 2]

Personally i think that is being useless, what does he really do but shoot fruitless shots?.... Hudler who plays less and get less shots has a better scoring % and so does most of the team. Basically Sammy is sucking up others players time which can and have been proven to be more productive.

Wait a min., so Sammy's useless and Hudler isn't? Since sammy joined the team........

sammy: GP: 124 Pts: 79

Hudler: GP: 80 Pts: 25

And last years playoffs:

sammy: GP: 18 Pts:11

Hudler: GP:6 Pts:2

And this year Hudler only has 5 more points while playing in 4 more games. Say what you will about ice time or lack there of but really it's irrelevent since the players don't directly have a say in that, sounds like you should be more upset with Babcock than Sammy. And for all the slack he takes for "bad" or "wasted" shots, for my money, nothings a bigger waste than a Lidstrom shot from the point on the PP. I hate it, and it's so predictible. Sure he's important and brings so much to the table, but look at his S% 3.6 with over 100 shots, and you can bet at least half on the PP. The games more than stats yes, but what's good for the goose is good for the gander no? Saying that Sammy brings nothing more than fruitless shots is uninformed at best.

[Sparty13 0]

I don't know if this has been said before, i'm not gonna go back and read every post. My opinion is he's just another piece to this puzzle here. I like him, don't love him. Even though he's not physical, his big frame is an advantage. I don't like the fact he plays on the back end during a power play but I think this will be the last year I hope, with Kindl and all the other D prospects on their way up.

[OsGOD 3]

Wait a min., so Sammy's useless and Hudler isn't? Since sammy joined the team........

sammy: GP: 124 Pts: 79

Hudler: GP: 80 Pts: 25

And last years playoffs:

sammy: GP: 18 Pts:11

Hudler: GP:6 Pts:2

And this year Hudler only has 5 more points while playing in 4 more games. Say what you will about ice time or lack there of but really it's irrelevent since the players don't directly have a say in that, sounds like you should be more upset with Babcock than Sammy. And for all the slack he takes for "bad" or "wasted" shots, for my money, nothings a bigger waste than a Lidstrom shot from the point on the PP. I hate it, and it's so predictible. Sure he's important and brings so much to the table, but look at his S% 3.6 with over 100 shots, and you can bet at least half on the PP. The games more than stats yes, but what's good for the goose is good for the gander no? Saying that Sammy brings nothing more than fruitless shots is uninformed at best.

Games played does not = mins played though... Huddles makes more of his ICE TIME than sammy does. I said plays less than sammy and does more with his limited time than sammy does with all of the time he has each game.

Downey has a few games played... and how many mins in total? like 4?

Edited January 10, 2008 by OsGOD

[bringback91 2]

Games played does not = mins played though... Huddles makes more of his ICE TIME than sammy does. I said plays less than sammy and does more with his limited time than sammy does with all of the time he has each game.

Downey has a few games played... and how many mins in total? like 4?

Eh, sammy plays like 3 more mins. a game, no i wouldn't be pissed if a min or two of those went to hudler, but it's not like sammys playing 19 and hudlers playing 6. Hudler was just one example though, I guess i'm trying to say that IMO sammy's a better choice up on the top two as far as trying to get some goals than drake, downey, ellis, kopy, franzen, maltby and draper, which would make him a top six guy. I will say after a slower than expected start Hudler has really been impressing me the past month, along with cleary, but it's not exactly like sammy's "stealing" ice time away from the other top six guys. Anyway I'm pretty happy with the team, think everyones pulling their weight and performing well enough but again i don't really see why sammy would face the wrath when he's only doing whats asked cause if he wasn't I'm sure he wouldn't be on the team. To each his own i suppose, guess i'm not the type of guy who's got to look high and low for something to complain about when the team i cheer for is doing so well. Like i said early critisims fine, but the overreacting bugs me, but then again it's not my site is it.

Edited January 10, 2008 by bringback91