Yzermania 156 Report post Posted February 19, 2008 he needed help. He wa definitley woozy, I'm hoping it's not the worse case scenario which is BOTH a knee injury and a concussion which could very well be possible, as his head smaked into the boards and his knee definitley buckled kind of oddly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingsdiehard13 33 Report post Posted February 19, 2008 The ref gave him some help to the bench but he got up on his own Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zetterberg_fan_40 0 Report post Posted February 19, 2008 Did anyone not see the way his knee bent? He looked woozy because he couldnt hold himself up. Knee injuries are not fun trust me. Yeah he hit his head but it was not hard enough that I think it would knock him out. Im not trying to like bring anyone down Im just stating the obvious. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
therock48880 14 Report post Posted February 19, 2008 I didn't tivo the game, damnit! Anyways, didn't Zetts come up and help him off the ice on Lidstroms LEFT side? If someone taped the game, that would be good to know that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 5,152 Report post Posted February 19, 2008 ...the knee may be hurting a little, but it looked to me like you got his bell rung! He prolly got the wind knocked out of him, as well as the knee. His head did slam the wall so a consussion is not out of the question. What is out of the question is a Defensive scorng title/Norris Trophy/Stanley Cup if he doesn't come back for the rest of the season... ...and if that is the case, Holland just as well save his money and trades this year, they would be pointless without Lidstrom. Coast into the playoffs, lose in the first round and try it again next year... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedWingedKitten 9 Report post Posted February 19, 2008 "he passed the concussion test with flying colors" Says versus, Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 5,152 Report post Posted February 19, 2008 I didn't tivo the game, damnit! Anyways, didn't Zetts come up and help him off the ice on Lidstroms LEFT side? If someone taped the game, that would be good to know that. ...yep! Trainer and Zetts after ref kept him from falling on his ass. He did get up on his own and start to skate off, but you could tell he was rocked, that is why he needed help the rest of the way. What would a basketball player have done? They may have needed a stretcher for him... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zetterberg_fan_40 0 Report post Posted February 19, 2008 He prolly got the wind knocked out of him, as well as the knee. His head did slam the wall so a consussion is not out of the question. now it is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
therock48880 14 Report post Posted February 19, 2008 By the way, I've read a few posts that talk about the hit as being "clean". He elbowed him in the jaw. This is one reason I hate the instigator penalty. Someone should not get penalized for taking retribution on a hit that was borderline dirty. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 5,152 Report post Posted February 19, 2008 "he passed the concussion test with flying colors" Says versus, ...good, but a knee injury could keep him out until Round 2, which we will not see without him... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
therock48880 14 Report post Posted February 19, 2008 ...yep! Trainer and Zetts after ref kept him from falling on his ass. He did get up on his own and start to skate off, but you could tell he was rocked, that is why he needed help the rest of the way. What would a basketball player have done? They may have needed a stretcher for him... Seems like if his right knee was injured, they would have given him support on his right side instead of his left side. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
96warrior 11 Report post Posted February 19, 2008 From MLIVE: Lidstrom sustains knee injury, but Wings don't believe it's serious by Ansar Khan Monday February 18, 2008, 8:28 PM Wings captain Nicklas Lidstrom sustained a right knee injury early in Monday's game and will not return, the club said. Wings spokesman John Hahn said it doesn't appear to be too serious but he's being held out as a precaution. Hahn said Lidstrom never blacked out and actually wanted to return to the game. Lidstrom needed some assistance to get off the ice and was taken to the training room after a hard hit from Colorado's Ian Laperriere at 6:10 of the first period. It happened during a Detroit power play as Laperriere hammered Lidstrom against the boards, catching him in the chin or throat area with his forearm. Lidstrom tried to get up but was wobbling before trainer Piet Van Zant came onto the ice to help him off. Lidstrom's right leg appeared to get bent in an awkward position. Later in the period, Aaron Downey instigated a fight with Laperriere and basically pounded him into the ground. Lidstrom, a five-time Norris Trophy winner as the NHL's best defenseman, is one of the most durable players in league history, having played in 1,430 out of a possible 1,452 games, including the playoffs, since entered the NHL in 1991. And most of the games he missed were instances where the team rested him late in the season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 5,152 Report post Posted February 19, 2008 By the way, I've read a few posts that talk about the hit as being "clean". He elbowed him in the jaw. This is one reason I hate the instigator penalty. Someone should not get penalized for taking retribution on a hit that was borderline dirty. ...I did not see an elbow to the jaw, lets stop those rumors here and now. IF anything, he totally avoided the puck and went after Lidstrom, but the hit was a fraction of a second before Lidstrom kicked the puck with his skate, so if you are fine tooth combing it, it could have been interference, but it was a good hard play. Even if it were interference, that is not dirty... ...not a dirty hit, Lidstrom was caught in a vulnerable position, it happens. Hopefully he'll be back soon... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
therock48880 14 Report post Posted February 19, 2008 From MLIVE: Lidstrom sustains knee injury, but Wings don't believe it's serious by Ansar Khan Monday February 18, 2008, 8:28 PM Wings captain Nicklas Lidstrom sustained a right knee injury early in Monday's game and will not return, the club said. Wings spokesman John Hahn said it doesn't appear to be too serious but he's being held out as a precaution. Hahn said Lidstrom never blacked out and actually wanted to return to the game. Lidstrom needed some assistance to get off the ice and was taken to the training room after a hard hit from Colorado's Ian Laperriere at 6:10 of the first period. It happened during a Detroit power play as Laperriere hammered Lidstrom against the boards, catching him in the chin or throat area with his forearm. Lidstrom tried to get up but was wobbling before trainer Piet Van Zant came onto the ice to help him off. Lidstrom's right leg appeared to get bent in an awkward position. Later in the period, Aaron Downey instigated a fight with Laperriere and basically pounded him into the ground. Lidstrom, a five-time Norris Trophy winner as the NHL's best defenseman, is one of the most durable players in league history, having played in 1,430 out of a possible 1,452 games, including the playoffs, since entered the NHL in 1991. And most of the games he missed were instances where the team rested him late in the season. Thank You!!!!!!! Now for a goal 5 on 3 and then for Downey to kick Lappy's ass again! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
therock48880 14 Report post Posted February 19, 2008 ...I did not see an elbow to the jaw, lets stop those rumors here and now. IF anything, he totally avoided the puck and went after Lidstrom, but the hit was a fraction of a second before Lidstrom kicked the puck with his skate, so if you are fine tooth combing it, it could have been interference, but it was a good hard play. Even if it were interference, that is not dirty... ...not a dirty hit, Lidstrom was caught in a vulnerable position, it happens. Hopefully he'll be back soon... Like I said earlier, I didn't Tivo it. However, from the replays I've seen, it sure looked like Listrom's head jerked to his left when idiot's arm came up. Also notice, I didn't techinically say it was a dirty play. I said it was a borderline play. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grittzkey 1 Report post Posted February 19, 2008 I have never liked Downey that much , still miss mccarthy Steve McCarthy? JK We know what you mean. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 5,152 Report post Posted February 19, 2008 ...so if they want to remain safe with Lidstrom, do we get our first taste of Kindl or Ericsson on Friday night? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heaton 1 Report post Posted February 19, 2008 ...so if they want to remain safe with Lidstrom, do we get our first taste of Kindl or Ericsson on Friday night? Nope, Rafalski will be back. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matt 1,049 Report post Posted February 19, 2008 Babcock would kill lil Tony. He looked like he wanted to eat his head. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
irishtemper14+25 11 Report post Posted February 19, 2008 man i wish we would see ericson or kindl friday, rafalski should take one more game off Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yoops14 0 Report post Posted February 19, 2008 The way his knee bent, his foot stationary while his knee twisted, suggests either ACL or MCL sprain. Now you can have varying degrees of sprains, a 3rd degree being a full tear. Either way, he had a rotational and valgus mechanism which is pretty textbook for ACL/MCL. That's not saying the concussion arguments don't have any basis. But I definitely don't think the media is "creating a knee injury conspiracy" to throw everyone off. There was definitely a knee injury in there. I've seen my fair share on the job. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HkyTwn 5 Report post Posted February 19, 2008 I really did have a hard time watching it...I kept wishing they would STOP playing that one and keep playing the Downey one Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WingsFANstuckintheSOUTH 10 Report post Posted February 19, 2008 February 18, Detroit Free Press: "It doesn't look too serious," Hahn said, "but he is being kept out as a precaution." Lidstrom crashed into the boards with his left shoulder and back and dropped to the ice, sitting awkwardly. He tried to get up, clearly couldn't stand on his own legs, and within seconds referee Mike Hasenfratz skated over and held Lidstrom against the boards and stopped play. Lidstrom was helped off the ice by trainer Piet Van Zant. The fact the Wings already are saying it's not too serious is obviously very good news, but at the very least, knee injuries usually take at least two weeks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Salviaman 104 Report post Posted February 19, 2008 Man, does this team have bad luck or what? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yemack 1 Report post Posted February 19, 2008 I'm so sick to think about possible long term injury. Get the best doctors available and work on him Share this post Link to post Share on other sites