Who scares you the most...DAL or SJ?

[NeverForgetMac25 483]

First off, this thread is not intended to turn into a "who do you want to play next round" because that isn't my point and I've never believed in picking your poison. My question is in regards to if a specific scenario were to play out.

Which team would scare you more, Dallas right now (as they are clearly in control of the series) or San Jose if they ended up running the table and winning the next 3 games after avoiding the sweep two nights ago? Which WCF opponent given *that* scenario plays out is more scary?

Edited May 2, 2008 by Never Forget Mac #25

[Zion 93]

Dallas.

As a team, they are playing outstanding playoff hockey. Unfortunately, Turco hasn't fared well at the Joe (understatement).

Part of me would like a lengthy break, and part of me would like the Wings to play on Saturday.

[Chris L 0]

Dallas, they are playing like a team possessed.

They are going to be tough to get through. Like the Wings they have a system and a vision. They have clutch and stellar goal tending.

One of these teams will be the Stanley Cup champion this year.

Having said that, Wings in 6

[rick zombo 3,739]

I hope the Sharks force 7 games. For obvious reasons.

[OsGOD 3]

Maybe like Tay-door, Turco will also be the difference maker in this series should it come to pass. Personally i am pulling for Roenick 100%

[McCartyFanForLife 17]

Doesn't matter to me; we should be able to handle either of these teams. If we can't, we don't deserve the Cup. Neither scares me.

Edited May 2, 2008 by McCartyFanForLife

[puckloo39 5,686]

Dallas has the tools to be scary, but it remains to be seen if they can use them against the Wings. I probably know Dallas Stars better than any other team aside from the Wings. They can psyche themselves out of their current stellar run in a nano-second. I've seen it many times. You can't count on an elite player like Zubov to mess up (as he did in Game 4, regrettably), but when that does happen, the Stars have a tendency to fold up.

The Stars are superior third period team, which drives their fans to distraction. You think we get riled when the Wings mess around and then try to win in the last 10 minutes? Welcome to Dallas Stars hockey. But if I know that, so do the Wings. Score early and shut them down in the third = win.

If the same Wings who showed up in the Colorado series also appear in the next round (I do believe it will be Dallas), then Wings in 6. The Stars won't go quietly, but somehow I think Turco's demons will revisit him... wearing #13, #96, #93, and #40.

SJ has Nabokov. Otherwise, they rely on serendipity to win a game, more than consistency.

Stars are a great matchup to Detroit, IMO, a worthy WCF opponent. And, the travel is better for both teams since we're only a timezone apart.

[Nightfall 871]

Both teams scare me. If one team scares you more than another, then you obviously haven't been paying attention to the playoffs this season. Both SJ and Dallas have the tools and talent to win the cup this year. When either one of them meets up with detroit, it will be a battle. The winner will be the one that outworks the other one, gets a lucky bounce here or there, and can find the back of the net.

This deep in the playoffs, there is no team you would rather play. You just want to start playing the games.

[JayUp88 1]

Stars and the Pens scare me.

[NeverForgetMac25 483]

Both teams scare me. If one team scares you more than another, then you obviously haven't been paying attention to the playoffs this season. Both SJ and Dallas have the tools and talent to win the cup this year. When either one of them meets up with detroit, it will be a battle. The winner will be the one that outworks the other one, gets a lucky bounce here or there, and can find the back of the net.

This deep in the playoffs, there is no team you would rather play. You just want to start playing the games.

What does that have anything to do with *one* team scaring you more than the other? Why do you have to be equally scared of both teams or you haven't been paying attention to the playoffs? That comment makes no sense. I respect and fear both teams, but once again, this thread was posed simply based on the scenario I asked in the original post.

Which team scares you more, Dallas or SJ if they are able to run the table 4 straight?

[Guest GordieSid&Ted]

First off, this thread is not intended to turn into a "who do you want to play next round" because that isn't my point and I've never believed in picking your poison. My question is in regards to if a specific scenario were to play out.

Which team would scare you more, Dallas right now (as they are clearly in control of the series) or San Jose if they ended up running the table and winning the next 3 games after avoiding the sweep two nights ago? Which WCF opponent then is more scary?

Dallas

1. They have tons of speed and offensive punch. Brad Richards being added to that lineup was just a sick, sick move.

2. They are playing as a cohesive unit, all for one, chip on their shoulder

3. They have some big boys who play a physical game yet contribute in other ways as well, unlike the McLeod's, McCormick's and Lappy's of Colorado.

What I like about Dallas is that we own Turco. So he's either going to buckle under the weight of never being able to beat us or he's going to rise up to some superhuman level b/c his desire to beat us is so great.

I think offensively they can match up with us. I think speedwise they are sick and we are going to realize we're not as fast pretty friggin' quick. Our lack of speed on the blueline has me a little worried b/c they've got some blazers over there.

I think they have an edge physically albeit a slight one.

Defensively they don't have the depth or talent all around that we do.

I think it will be an extremely close series.

Both teams have the talent to win games. But I think the Stars have more grit to them to win games. Even though we could be as gritty as the next team, we rely so much on puck possession and talent that our grit doesn't always come to the surface. And all it takes is a couple of grittier shifts here and there by the opposition to see us lose games 3 to 2 or 4 to 3, etc...

I like our chances. I will take us in 7 games though. That's how close I think it is.

[Nightfall 871]

What does that have anything to do with *one* team scaring you more than the other? Why do you have to be equally scared of both teams or you haven't been paying attention to the playoffs? That comment makes no sense. I respect and fear both teams, but once again, this thread was posed simply based on the scenario I asked in the original post.

Which team scares you more, Dallas or SJ if they are able to run the table 4 straight?

If it makes no sense to you, then you obviously haven't been watching the playoffs, so I won't even bother explaining it.

You asked which scares me more, and I answered that question. Both of them.

[NeverForgetMac25 483]

If it makes no sense to you, then you obviously haven't been watching the playoffs, so I won't even bother explaining it.

You asked which scares me more, and I answered that question. Both of them.

I guarantee I've watched more games than most people on these boards. The only games I've missed portions of are ones that were on at the same time as others.

Obviously, the point of the question went way over your head, so I won't even bother explaining it.

[motorcitykid 42]

Thorton said his team is good enough to win the Cup this year, next year, and the next year. Umm, uh-huh.

As for a pick between the 2 teams, I see us matching up well with Dallas. I gotta tell all those who haven't seen these guys this playoff, that those guys can skate. They fight everywhere on the ice, they just do not give up. Turco has looked pretty good, although [and NOT because i'm a Wings fan] I have a feeling some of that has to do with the Sharks pop-gun attack.

Dallas will bring all they got, and cue up the "DETROIT'S IS THE FAVORITE TO WIN THE CUP" lines now. Yeh right. We've been disrespected time and time again this season with the notion that our guys can't finish the job. Injuries played a HUGE part in the Anaheim f***s beating us last year. And of course, our lack of big offense.

Anyways, it should be a good series, but Dallas vs Detroit is a whole lot different than Dallas vs San Jose. That team .. i don't know what they are missing, but something has to give. They've been saying for 2 or 3 years that the Sharks are "the" sexy team to win it all. Again ... uh-huh.

I'll be nice about this ... Wings in 6.

[McCartyFanForLife 17]

I guarantee I've watched more games than most people on these boards. The only games I've missed portions of are ones that were on at the same time as others.

Obviously, the point of the question went way over your head, so I won't even bother explaining it.

Totally agree.

I would think it's obvious that if SJ comes back to win the series, they would be the more scary team. That would mean they held off Dallas for 4 straight games. Granted they wouldn't be rested, but I don't think that matters much. That momentum would be huge going into the WCF.

[Guest GordieSid&Ted]

If it makes no sense to you, then you obviously haven't been watching the playoffs, so I won't even bother explaining it.

You asked which scares me more, and I answered that question. Both of them.

I just showed your response to my 6 year old daughter and her response was "is that guy retarded or something"

I kindly corrected her and said "we don't say retarded............we say f--king stupid"

Edited May 2, 2008 by GordieSid&Ted

[VM1138 1,921]

They are both huge threats, but the Wings have been playing like they're on a mission as well.

I predict a colossal, probably 7 game series of titans in the Conference Finals. Unlike with Colorado, I don't think anyone should be underestimating either San Jose or Dallas.

[Nightfall 871]

I guarantee I've watched more games than most people on these boards. The only games I've missed portions of are ones that were on at the same time as others.

Obviously, the point of the question went way over your head, so I won't even bother explaining it.

I understood the point of your question. You just didn't like my answer.

Just because I fear both of these teams equally doesn't mean my answer is invalid or incorrect. If you got the impression I was pointing you out as someone who didn't watch any of the games, it wasn't meant as a personal attack. Just an observation that most armchair hockey fans who are picking teams they fear the most really are overlooking the fact that all these teams are so close in talent level. To "pick your team that you fear the most" is a misnomer. Both of these teams should scare the crap out of you. Not one over the other. Given EITHER situation.

BTW, nice clarification edit on your OP. You should have typed that in the first place.

[NeverForgetMac25 483]

Totally agree.

I would think it's obvious that if SJ comes back to win the series, they would be the more scary team. That would mean they held off Dallas for 4 straight games. Granted they wouldn't be rested, but I don't think that matters much. That momentum would be huge going into the WCF.

Thank you. This is the type of discussion I intended for when I started the thread.

[A.T.Hun 0]

Even if San Jose comes back to win, which I don't see happening, they would be beat up and tired out in the process and then have to make the big trip to the Joe to face a rested and healthy Wings team. Dallas has looked really good in the playoffs but of all the goaltenders in the West, Turco scares me the least. For whatever reason, Detroit just owns him. If Detroit plays with the focus they played with over the past six games and keeps getting timely goaltending from Ozzie, I can't see fearing either team.

[NeverForgetMac25 483]

I understood the point of your question. You just didn't like my answer.

Just because I fear both of these teams equally doesn't mean my answer is invalid or incorrect. If you got the impression I was pointing you out as someone who didn't watch any of the games, it wasn't meant as a personal attack. Just an observation that most armchair hockey fans who are picking teams they fear the most really are overlooking the fact that all these teams are so close in talent level. To "pick your team that you fear the most" is a misnomer. Both of these teams should scare the crap out of you. Not one over the other. Given EITHER situation.

BTW, nice clarification edit on your OP. You should have typed that in the first place.

I didn't change a single word, I bolded statements because my question obviously went over people's heads.....you especially.

In regards to you fearing both teams equally, it absolutely doesn't make your answer invalid or incorrect. If you had left it at that, I wouldn't have questioned you in first place. However, then you went on to say that if anyone didn't fear both of them equally then they haven't been paying attention to the playoffs, which I find to be a ridiculous statement.....hence I called you out on it.

To "pick your team that you fear the most" is a misnomer. Both of these teams should scare the crap out of you. Not one over the other. Given EITHER situation.

Yeah, because momentum from winning a best of seven series where you've had to come back from being down 0-3 means absolutely nothing.

Just forget it.

[NeverForgetMac25 483]

I just showed your response to my 6 year old daughter and her response was "is that guy retarded or something"

I kindly corrected her and said "we don't say retarded............we say f--king stupid"

[Guest GordieSid&Ted]

I understood the point of your question. You just didn't like my answer.

Just because I fear both of these teams equally doesn't mean my answer is invalid or incorrect. If you got the impression I was pointing you out as someone who didn't watch any of the games, it wasn't meant as a personal attack. Just an observation that most armchair hockey fans who are picking teams they fear the most really are overlooking the fact that all these teams are so close in talent level. To "pick your team that you fear the most" is a misnomer. Both of these teams should scare the crap out of you. Not one over the other. Given EITHER situation.

BTW, nice clarification edit on your OP. You should have typed that in the first place.

Well that's a bit better explanation.

Answering "both" to a question of which scares you MORE is dumb.

Saying you're equally scared of both is completely legitimate.

I don't think you are using the word misnomer correctly.

"both of these teams should scare the crap out of you" Is purely an opinion and no more invalidates anybody else's feelings that one may scare them more than another.

It's okay for you to say they should scare us equally

But its not okay for us to say one scares us more than the other?

They are different teams. They have different players. They have different players playing at different levels of success currently.

You are oversimplifying by carte blanch, throwing out a generalization like "all these teams are so close in talent level". How do you know that? What measurement can you provide that shows the talent level is so close? And why is this based solely upon talent? Injuries, grit, etc....you see what i'm saying?

My answer remains: Dallas

[McCartyFanForLife 17]

I understood the point of your question. You just didn't like my answer.

Just because I fear both of these teams equally doesn't mean my answer is invalid or incorrect. If you got the impression I was pointing you out as someone who didn't watch any of the games, it wasn't meant as a personal attack. Just an observation that most armchair hockey fans who are picking teams they fear the most really are overlooking the fact that all these teams are so close in talent level. To "pick your team that you fear the most" is a misnomer. Both of these teams should scare the crap out of you. Not one over the other. Given EITHER situation.

BTW, nice clarification edit on your OP. You should have typed that in the first place.

Not really... here's how you're looking at it

if (totalGames == 7)

{

if( SanJose_NumberofWins > Dallas_NumberofWins)

{

SanJose_Scary = TRUE;

Dallas_Scary = FALSE;

}

if( Dallas_NumberofWins > SanJose_NumberWins)

{

Dallas_Scary = TRUE;

SanJose_Scary = False;

}

}

else

{

Dallas_Scary = TRUE;

SanJose_Scary = FALSE;

}

The question is this:

Dallas wins in 5 "scariness greater than or less than" San Jose winning in 7. I can assure you that both are not equal.

[Ontario Wingsfan 0]

Dallas. They are patient with the puck, play a smart game and Turco has been solid. They are playing extremely well as a team right this minute and IMO they would be Detroit's biggest challenge.