10 Minute Misconduct 104 Report post Posted July 2, 2008 Holland on Off the Record on TSN just now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204 Report post Posted July 2, 2008 Watching now. Holland says he got really lucky haha. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest mindfly Report post Posted July 2, 2008 where can we see this?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
10 Minute Misconduct 104 Report post Posted July 2, 2008 Holland says Hossa wanted more then $7.5. Holland said he promised Lidstrom nobody would make more then him, he would have to call Lids to see his feelings about it. Hossa said don't worry about it ill sign for what Lidstrom is making. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204 Report post Posted July 2, 2008 I really didnt know Hossa was this kind of guy. Really glad we brought him in. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest mindfly Report post Posted July 2, 2008 (edited) Why is it so important for lidstrom to get most money in the team? Edited July 2, 2008 by mindfly Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
10 Minute Misconduct 104 Report post Posted July 2, 2008 Yah really, i'm shocked. He turned down reportedly 9 years at 9 mill from the Oilers. 7 years and 7 mill from the Pens. Just to sign a 1 year deal with the Wings. That's almost un-heard of. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Never_Retire_Steve 35 Report post Posted July 2, 2008 Holland says Hossa wanted more then $7.5. Holland said he promised Lidstrom nobody would make more then him, he would have to call Lids to see his feelings about it. Hossa said don't worry about it ill sign for what Lidstrom is making. Just about to post this exact thing. Awesome bargaining by Holland, to say "Hey listen, we're the best, you need us more than we need you" in other words. I am very happy with the off-season. I wanted us to sign a goaltender so that we could keep the 2 headed monster that we had in Osgood and Hasek. Hossa was just unreal shocking. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Never_Retire_Steve 35 Report post Posted July 2, 2008 Why is it so important for lidstrom to get most money in the team? In a salary cap era, this HUGE! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anomalously 0 Report post Posted July 2, 2008 Sportsnet.ca says Holland and Hossa agreed on $8, but told Hossa he had to ask Lidstrom first. Hossa said, "What's Lidstrom make?" and subsequently signed at that number. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VM1138 1,921 Report post Posted July 2, 2008 I think this proves that Hossa genuinely wants to go to a Contender. He could've easily stayed with the Pens for more money. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest mindfly Report post Posted July 2, 2008 In a salary cap era, this HUGE! I don't understand, if hossa got 7.5million and lidström got 7.45.. why would he get pissed?? :S erhmm Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeverForgetMac25 483 Report post Posted July 2, 2008 Holland says Hossa wanted more then $7.5. Holland said he promised Lidstrom nobody would make more then him, he would have to call Lids to see his feelings about it. Hossa said don't worry about it ill sign for what Lidstrom is making. And TBH, nobody should make more than Lidstrom on this Wings team. The guy takes paycut after paycut to continue to help the Wings be as competitive as they are year after year. If the best player in the world is willing to take a paycut to give your team the chance to be a perennial contender, everyone else that comes to the Wings needs to do the same. When it comes to the Red Wings, no one should be making more than Lidstrom. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeverForgetMac25 483 Report post Posted July 2, 2008 Why is it so important for lidstrom to get most money in the team? Because he's the best player in the world, and continually takes paycuts to give his team the best chance of winning the Cup. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204 Report post Posted July 2, 2008 These guys on the panel are idiots. They are saying Hossa was stupid for walking away from money and term. One guy said it was smart, and how he'd rather be in Detroit then Edmonton, but the other mopes said they'd rather be around all the kids. I like to win, and then listen to idiots, and then start winning again. Hossa made the best move, and smart for himself as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ktulux 0 Report post Posted July 2, 2008 Where can I see this? Help a panicked brother out! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204 Report post Posted July 2, 2008 TSN.ca broadband, find OTR, and look at todays date Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Booster313 138 Report post Posted July 2, 2008 In a salary cap era, this HUGE! Lidstom is the bar by which the rest of our roster is set. He is the captain of our team, he is THE BEST defensman in the league, he's a six time Norris winner, a four time Stanley Cup winner, a Conn Smyth winner, an Olympic Gold Medalist, a future HHOFer and a career Red Wing. The message is thank you for coming Mr. Hossa but you nor anyone else is more valuable to our team than Lidstrom is. Lidstom sets the example for the rest of the players. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ktulux 0 Report post Posted July 2, 2008 TSN.ca broadband, find OTR, and look at todays date Much Thanks Friend. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest mindfly Report post Posted July 2, 2008 I just find the OTR from june 30th :S wtff help Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204 Report post Posted July 2, 2008 It isnt up on TSN yet, I'd say check later on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cicada 4 Report post Posted July 2, 2008 Why is it so important for lidstrom to get most money in the team? because Lidstrom's reduced his salary a number of times for the team and he's the best player in the world. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozen-Man 144 Report post Posted July 2, 2008 I don't understand, if hossa got 7.5million and lidström got 7.45.. why would he get pissed?? :S erhmm It has nothing to do with Lids making more or less money - it has to do with the fact that Lids has continuously taken pay cuts so that the Wing can have money to sign other guys and you don't ask your best player and captain to sacrifice and take less and then not ask that of other guys. Lids doesn't seem to mind taking much less than he is worth to help the team but it doesn't seem right to then take that money and use it to pay another guy more. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Majsheppard 203 Report post Posted July 3, 2008 Just about to post this exact thing. Awesome bargaining by Holland, to say "Hey listen, we're the best, you need us more than we need you" in other words. I am very happy with the off-season. I wanted us to sign a goaltender so that we could keep the 2 headed monster that we had in Osgood and Hasek. Hossa was just unreal shocking. Holland did nothing of the sort, if you go to the press conference you will here him say what happened. He gave a modest long term offer to Hossa, not expecting anything, knowing that he said he would like to be a Wing. When he told him he was going to make a decision tomarrow and that we were still in the mix holland waited. In the morning his agent asked if we were willing to do a one year deal. Holland said yes, and when the said money, he said I promiced Nick Lidstrom no one would make more then him. Hossa said deal. Holland didn't bend him over, Hossa wanted to come and made it well known he was willing to compromise. Its huge testiment to Holland that the Organization is so respectable that it can cause this kind of behavior in a guy that 4 months ago said he wanted to make the maximum. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T.Low 1,011 Report post Posted July 3, 2008 Because he's the best player in the world, and continually takes paycuts to give his team the best chance of winning the Cup. As per usual. NFM, succinctly well put. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites