BigWinston 15 Report post Posted July 14, 2008 Hey, Relative newcomer to the sport, so there's a question I have... If Howard can be sent to the GRG's without going through waivers and Conklin can not, what's the process, and I guess, what are waivers? What do they mean for a club and/or player? Thanks! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Torless 0 Report post Posted July 14, 2008 Hey, Relative newcomer to the sport, so there's a question I have... If Howard can be sent to the GRG's without going through waivers and Conklin can not, what's the process, and I guess, what are waivers? What do they mean for a club and/or player? Thanks! Howard's got a 2-way contract. Which means Detroit can call him up and send him back whenever they want - as long as they have room on the team. Conklin has a one-way contract which means if they sent him to the minors he has to pass through waivers... which means any team can grab him during a that waiver period. 2-way contracts are standard for rookies - not usually for veterans. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CenterIce 83 Report post Posted July 14, 2008 Once a player reaches a certain age and number of years in the league, to be sent down to the minors that have to clear waivers. This is so the owners can't just send anyone down for whatever reason. If a player is placed on waivers they have 48 hours for all the other teams to decide if they would like to take that player or not. The selection order goes in reverse record. If a player clears waivers, he can be sent down. In the new CBA there is also re-entry waivers which work in reverse. So, it makes it harder to send a veteran player down and bring him back up later. There are other things involved, but this is the basic idea. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Konnan511 1,736 Report post Posted July 14, 2008 (edited) Howard's got a 2-way contract. Which means Detroit can call him up and send him back whenever they want - as long as they have room on the team. Conklin has a one-way contract which means if they sent him to the minors he has to pass through waivers... which means any team can grab him during a that waiver period. 2-way contracts are standard for rookies - not usually for veterans. Two-Way contracts have NOTHING to do with waivers at all. A two-way contract means when the player is in the minors their contract doesn't count against the cap fully, only a fraction when they are in the minors. players on two-way contracts: a) that make more than 75,000 in the AHL are subject to waivers on the way up (re-entry) and the way down b) that make 75,000 or less in the AHL are only subject to waivers on the way down; also, after they clear waivers at the beginning of the season to be assigned to the AHL, they only have to clear waivers if they have played 10 NHL games or are on the NHL roster for 30 days during the season. Any player who has played three seasons since signing his first NHL contract or has played 180 NHL games must clear waivers before he is assigned to a minor league affiliate. Once a player is placed on waivers, teams have 48 hours to put in a claim on that player. If more than one team places a claim, the team with the lower number of points in the previous season is awarded the player. If no team places a claim, the player can be sent to a minor league affiliate. When a player clears waivers and is sent down then is called up again, he would not have to clear waivers to be sent down again unless he's played 10 games or been "up" for 30 days. Edited July 14, 2008 by Konnan511 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
egroen 384 Report post Posted July 14, 2008 (edited) Two-Way contracts have NOTHING to do with waivers at all. A two-way contract means when the player is in the minors their contract doesn't count against the cap or that their contract is only a fraction of what it would be if he were on the parents team roster (too lazy to look it up exactly). Edit: Better explanation above... When Cujo was sent down to the AHL, he cleared waivers but was still earning $8 million because he had a one-way contract... but it did not count against the cap during those games. When a player is in the minors, that time period does not count against the cap at all. Last year, Detroit sent Ellis down to the AHL... LA picked him up through the waiver wire. They had a "high pick" in the waiver wire, because of their low standings the previous season. If Mac or Downey sign two-way contracts, they will make a portion of their salary while they play in the AHL, and any team can grab them each time they are sent down or up. Most likely they would not be claimed, however... not exactly hot commodities right now. Edited July 14, 2008 by egroen Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cicada 4 Report post Posted July 14, 2008 When Cujo was sent down to the AHL, he cleared waivers but was still earning $8 million because he had a one-way contract... but it did not count against the cap during those games. there was no cap then, old cba Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
egroen 384 Report post Posted July 14, 2008 there was no cap then, old cba Oops... but I am pretty sure none of it would have counted towards the cap while he was down. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doggy 130 Report post Posted July 15, 2008 (edited) Two-Way contracts have NOTHING to do with waivers at all. A two-way contract means when the player is in the minors their contract doesn't count against the cap fully, only a fraction when they are in the minors. players on two-way contracts: a) that make more than 75,000 in the AHL are subject to waivers on the way up (re-entry) and the way down b) that make 75,000 or less in the AHL are only subject to waivers on the way down; also, after they clear waivers at the beginning of the season to be assigned to the AHL, they only have to clear waivers if they have played 10 NHL games or are on the NHL roster for 30 days during the season. Any player who has played three seasons since signing his first NHL contract or has played 180 NHL games must clear waivers before he is assigned to a minor league affiliate. Once a player is placed on waivers, teams have 48 hours to put in a claim on that player. If more than one team places a claim, the team with the lower number of points in the previous season is awarded the player. If no team places a claim, the player can be sent to a minor league affiliate. When a player clears waivers and is sent down then is called up again, he would not have to clear waivers to be sent down again unless he's played 10 games or been "up" for 30 days. Good explanation. However the highlighted part is slightly off. The required number of NHL games played depends on their age and whether or not they are a skater or goalie so it's much more complicated. You have the gist of it though. Edit: found some info. http://www.nhlscap.com/waivers.htm Edited July 15, 2008 by Doggy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
