This Is Too Good

[T.Low 1,011]

How exactly do you know if you got an infraction?

On this page, look all the way up to the top right of the page. See where it says 0 (1 or whatever) new messages. Same place on HF page. Knowing what i did to get 3 infractions, I'll wager you got at least 5. Hurry up I want to know before I go to bed, and my woman is waiting for me.

[stormboy 47]

It's probably because the colour commentator for MSG went on and on about how bad of a call it was. You'd never hear Mickey Redmond do that.

We wouldn't be much different here if the shoe was on the other foot though.

um, yeah, you would. pretty much every game.

but, the last sentence of your post is absolutely right. when the calls go against us, the say the reffs are ******* our team over. but it's still one power play that you have to kill off. if you kill it, nothing happens, the rangers still win the game.

still, you have to understand the emotions those fans are going through, as stupid as it sounds. after the first five minutes, you want to kill your own team. then you get super excited in the third when they take the lead. then it all gets taken away. pretty rough.

then again, f*** them. they're not wings fans, therefore they are the enemy.

[Dabura 12,232]

then again, f*** them. they're not wings fans, therefore they are the enemy.

Eeeexactly.

Really, though: I can understand general Wings hate, but bitching about that call is just lame. I can't believe so many people were/are crying foul. If you know your hockey (...), you know that's a straightforward, textbook, clear-cut, black and white call.

Edited October 20, 2008 by Dabura

[Guest Four]

On this page, look all the way up to the top right of the page. See where it says 0 (1 or whatever) new messages. Same place on HF page. Knowing what i did to get 3 infractions, I'll wager you got at least 5. Hurry up I want to know before I go to bed, and my woman is waiting for me.

You know they to fix something on their site when you can't even notice the amount of infractions they give you anyway..

[NeverForgetMac25 483]

Meh, it wasn't the first time fans have reacted after a late penalty was called and it certainly won't be the last. In regards to that, my thought is that if you have to justify it based on outside circumstances (in this case, the amount of time left), then your team was guilty and got what they deserved.

Tear.

[Johnny Law 15]

Its understandable to be angry, no one likes the feeling that the refs decided the outcome. That said if I had to be mad at someone I would be mad at the three defenders who let Datsyuk move through them and set up the GWG.

[motorcitykid 42]

Knowing the Rangers, they'll do everything they can to win the Conference, only to get knocked out first round!

[seeinred 1,488]

This thread is more proof that HF is run by a bunch of pansies.

[Doc Holiday 0]

On this page, look all the way up to the top right of the page. See where it says 0 (1 or whatever) new messages. Same place on HF page. Knowing what i did to get 3 infractions, I'll wager you got at least 5. Hurry up I want to know before I go to bed, and my woman is waiting for me.

I didn't get any.

[Matt 1,049]

This thread is more proof that HF is run by a bunch of pansies.

The moderator selection has certainly went in the tank. That's been the general consensus for a while now it seems.

[stormboy 47]

Meh, it wasn't the first time fans have reacted after a late penalty was called and it certainly won't be the last. In regards to that, my thought is that if you have to justify it based on outside circumstances (in this case, the amount of time left), then your team was guilty and got what they deserved.

Tear.

it's tough for me how fans (and maybe players and coaches, too) will talk about the time at which a penalty was called. granted, i've probably been guilty of this when the call goes against the wings...but still. i feel like if a penalty is a penalty, it should be called regardless. if it's a weak call (maybe a little hook or something) and someone says that they shouldn't call that penalty at this point in the game, my argument is that it should never be called at any point in any game. i remember...i don't know which game exactly it was last year, but it was in the finals (i'm pretty sure...wow, my memory sucks) but there was a blatant trip on datsyuk right outside our zone. it was late in the game, and if memory serves, the penguins scored on the play and it changed the outcome of the game. people say that the refs are not going to call a tripping penalty like that at that stage in the game, especially if the offending team is losing a tight game. but, i don't know. as much as you want to say that you shouldn't be dolling out power plays late in the game because that one power play can easily change the outcome of the game, i feel like that just encourages teams to commit penalties (i.e. cheat) with impunity. and that's not right either, in a close game.

it seems to me that a good ref is one who does not pay attention to the score, the momentum, the number of other penalties that have been called, etc. but only pays attention to each individual play and calls penalties consistently regardless of the situation. if you look at a game and one team has had four straight penalties called against them, the tendency is to say, well, they're due for a power play. most of the time, they will get the next power play. while there's some sense of justice associated with this mindset, the fact is that if team A has committed four penalties and team B has committed none, justice is being served by penalizing the offending team, and it is an injustice for team B to be issued a penalty just for the sake of keeping things even.

but, then again, this assumes that penalties are called with some measure of consistency. because they're not, you can always point to an earlier call that was or wasn't made as an argument for the call you want or don't want getting called or not getting called. the rangers fans kept saying that that exact play happens fifty times a game and that if you're going to call that tmm you have to call them all.

first, that simply isn't true. but you have to wonder if the refs let other marginal tmm calls go by but called that one because of the context of the game. while i disagree with this (in this particular case), i think it's pretty clear that stuff like that does happen, both in terms of calls being and not being made, and thus gives some credibility to the argument of the rangers fans, though i, of course, think they're wrong in this particular instance.

oh, and by the way, their own coach said it was a penalty. so shut the f*** up. in my opinion an obvious blown call is when, say, the puck goes in the netting and the refs don't halt play. yeah, you can argue the guys foot was half in the door blah blah blah but at best it's a marginal call, no way that's it's a blatant blown call.

Edited October 21, 2008 by stormboy

[Datsyerberger 279]

The moderator selection has certainly went in the tank. That's been the general consensus for a while now it seems.

That, Matt, is why I read there a lot, but have never registered or posted.

[Doc Holiday 0]

i remember...i don't know which game exactly it was last year, but it was in the finals (i'm pretty sure...wow, my memory sucks) but there was a blatant trip on datsyuk right outside our zone. it was late in the game, and if memory serves, the penguins scored on the play and it changed the outcome of the game.

Ummm you mean game 6? The final minutes where after Datsyuk was tripped (and could have scored an empty netter to clinch the Cup) Hossa almost scored a goal to tie the game?

That one?

[Guest CaliWingsNut]

Knowing the Rangers, they'll do everything they can to win the Conference, only to get knocked out first round!

hmm... sorta reminds me of what many non-wings fans say of Detroit.