Icesurfer 75 Report post Posted December 12, 2008 Will the Lidstrom/Stuart and Rafalski/Kronwall combinations finally perk up the defense?? Those combinations had 2 goals in the Calgary game. From MLIVE: DEFENSE PAIRINGS Just for fun I will compare Detroit's defensemen to Kyle Quincey: LA got a flat out steal in getting Kyle Qunicey! As of this moment Kyle Quincey has 18 points is +5 and plays 22:20 average time on the ice per game..... for LOWLY LA. In comparison: Kronwall - 13 points, -4, 23:09 ATOI Stuart - 2 points, -4, 20:57 ATOI Lidstrom - 19 points, +9, 24:58 ATOI Rafalski - 21 points, +3, 22:16 ATOI I won't even bother listing Lilja's and Lebda's stats. Kyle Quincey had played 25 games for LA so far. Lidstrom and Rafalski have played 27 games each. Kronwall and Stuart have played 26 games each. Salaries: Quincey $525,000.00 Kronwall $3,000,000.00 Stuart $3,750,000.00 Lilja $1,250,000.00 Chelios $750,000.00 Rafalski $6,000,000.00 AND THE WINGS ARE FIGHTING FOR SALARY CAP SPACE. AND to add injury to insult some of Quincey's salary counts against the Wings Salary Cap....grant it... not much... but still.... This will EASILY be the steal of the year!!!!!! Not only that, but Quincey was signed for 2 years at that price...... and next year with a worse cap crunch we still will be paying Lilja $1,250,000.00. Not only was it a steal.... Holland handed Quincey to LA on a silver platter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yc172 3 Report post Posted December 12, 2008 thats easy to say after we have traded him Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yzerman191 37 Report post Posted December 12, 2008 In retrospect, things like this are always so easy to call. I don't recall who, but another poster said it best: it's all about how each player fits into a team's system. It's evident that either Quincey just wasn't working for the Red Wings style of play, or the change of scenery was just the spark he needed. I honestly do not think we would've seen the same results in Detroit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skacore 2 Report post Posted December 12, 2008 We gave up a rock solid 23 year old defensive defenseman with pretty good offensive instincts. Good hitter, good net presence, good first pass, stands up for team mates. Thank god we have Chelios coming back soon, though... :| Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reds4Life 51 Report post Posted December 12, 2008 yep Quincey was lost for nothing, but hey nobody's perfect Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Secret 304 Report post Posted December 12, 2008 I would have much rather had kept and played Quincey over either Lilja or Lebda. But I also don't think he would have been as productive seeing as he would have had much less ice time and a lessor role in Detroit. Quincey is thriving, having been trained in our system, with a more advanced role on a worse team. I'm happy to see him doing well, too bad it wasn't at home. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lets go pavel 2 Report post Posted December 12, 2008 The role Kyle Quincey is playing in LA is drastically different than the one he would have been playing here. Playing as a top-pairing defenseman anywhere is likely to inflate someone's statistics, his numbers don't mean he's better than our other defensemen. He had his opportunities to make the team here, and he failed to do it. It's great that he has found a good situation in LA, let's leave it at that ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heaton 1 Report post Posted December 12, 2008 Quincey almost has as many ES points as Lilja! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Z Winged Dangler 2,082 Report post Posted December 12, 2008 i was pissed right off when the wings let quincey go. i was hoping next year for the wings 3rd pairing to be quincey and ericsson. that would be a sick 6 man blue line! and yes, those pairings are good cause it balances it out more. lids and rafs are the finesse d-men and stewie and kronner hit every motherf***er that crosses the blue line. another smart move by babs. i hope the wings crush the stars...with a very lopsided score. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
elriqo28 2 Report post Posted December 12, 2008 AND THE WINGS ARE FIGHTING FOR SALARY CAP SPACE. AND to add injury to insult some of Quincey's salary counts against the Wings Salary Cap....grant it... not much... but still.... This will EASILY be the steal of the year!!!!!! Not only that, but Quincey was signed for 2 years at that price...... and next year with a worse cap crunch we still will be paying Lilja $1,250,000.00. Not only was it a steal.... Holland handed Quincey to LA on a silver platter. I know...if we all complain about it maybe, just maybe, somehow magically Quincey will return to the wings and will be as good here as he is in LA and play 20 seasons for 525,000 a season. Everyone concentrate on complaining about it...GO! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CrossCheck24 2 Report post Posted December 12, 2008 In retrospect, things like this are always so easy to call. I don't recall who, but another poster said it best: it's all about how each player fits into a team's system. It's evident that either Quincey just wasn't working for the Red Wings style of play, or the change of scenery was just the spark he needed. I honestly do not think we would've seen the same results in Detroit. As much as that seems like a weak argument, Quincey said it himself in an interview(I am too lazy to find the interview). Would have liked to get something better for him though... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CrossoverThrash 0 Report post Posted December 12, 2008 At least we still have Ericsson (who we know shoudl be good) and Kindl (who has more potential than quincey ever had) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
