1/17 GDT: Sharks 6, Red Wings 5

[Electrophile 3,554]

I went to bed about 12:30. Woke up about 15 minutes ago. Damn it. That's both for waking up and for us losing the game. At least we came back and made a game of it, it's better than lying down and getting stepped on.

Damn.

[TheSupafly 50]

Just got home from the game and a little post game drinking. I think the best way I can put it, is that if you were to pick a game to take a non hockey person to, to show them why hockey is such a great sport, this would have been the game.

Lots of big hits, very physical. Lots of scoring. The refs let a lot of things go, which surprised me, but I'll have to watch the TV broadcast before I start to criticize the officials.

From a Shark fan's perspective, in the back of my mind I was very worried that the Wings might skate the Sharks right out of the building, and that it had the potential to get ugly. If there is any team that could exploit the Sharks' injuries on the blue line, it would be the Wings. Despite the loss, the Wings showed tonight that you can't give them an inch...they can and usually do capitalize on almost every mistake. They made the most of their opportunities and did well to put 5 behind Nabby. I was pleased that my team stepped up to the challenge and got the job done in the end. After the all star break, the Sharks get back Luko, Blake, Mitchell, and then Roenick shortly after. I'm hoping that will give the team the boost to return to their early season form.

I wouldn't be too disappointed if I were a Wings fan. Your team is amazing, and will be right there in the spring time, as always. We're just jockeying for position until then.

[Yak19 303]

Just keep repeating that to yourself in the mirror every morning. I am sure that will make the anxiety go away.

LOL, i know this game must be a real thrill for you but on my end losing this one means little to nothing at all. As a Wings fans from 1989, sorry i dont know was there a Sj team then? Cant remember. Anyways i know which games mean something and although this was a "big deal game" throughout the NHL, I dont dwell over 1 game in the regular season. That being said thank you come again.... Kiss the rings *****, LOL.

P.S - Joe Thornton IS a nobody in the playoffs at this point in time, im just stating a fact. He has no heart from what I have seen, hey let him prove me wrong but right now what i have said is reality, just like the SJ Sharks are #1 in the NHL, its no difference, you see how i can tell it like it is.

[TheSupafly 50]

As a Wings fans from 1989, sorry i dont know was there a Sj team then? Cant remember.

The Sharks were founded in 1991.

[Yak19 303]

The Sharks were founded in 1991.

LOL, my statement was sarcasm, im sorry if that wasnt clear. Dont worry i remember Pat Falloon.

[TheSupafly 50]

Fun fact: When it comes to playoff hockey Joe Thornton is an absolute nobody. I dont have the exact stats off the top of my head but his production is horrendous. He is mentally unfit in the playoffs while we have been there and done that. As long as you make the playoffs the regular season means nothing, what really matters is how you perform on the big stage and Joe Thorton is as limp as they come. (Pun intended)

I don't have the stats from before, but since joining the Sharks Big Joe has 30 pts in 35 post season games. ~.86 points per playoff game. World class numbers? Of course not. "as limp as they come"? I think you might be exaggerating.

[TheSupafly 50]

LOL, my statement was sarcasm, im sorry if that wasnt clear. Dont worry i remember Pat Falloon.

Ah, sorry. Haven't had a chance to read the thread yet. Pat was one of my favorites.

[Yak19 303]

I don't have the stats from before, but since joining the Sharks Big Joe has 30 pts in 35 post season games. ~.86 points per playoff game. World class numbers? Of course not. "as limp as they come"? I think you might be exaggerating.

He doesn't come through when it matters, case and point vs. Dallas last year, vs. Detroit the year before that, Calgary before that and so on. I dont care if he had 20 points in some blowout game, im talking about when your season is on the line.

[Yak19 303]

Ah, sorry. Haven't had a chance to read the thread yet. Pat was one of my favorites.

As much as i banter i respect the Sharks and i realize they are our only competition come playoffs.

[TheSupafly 50]

He doesn't come through when it matters, case and point vs. Dallas last year, vs. Detroit the year before that, Calgary before that and so on. I dont care if he had 20 points in some blowout game, im talking about when your season is on the line.

That's not how he accrued those points, but clearly there is no changing your mind.

I thought he had a good series against Dallas last year, but by your rational, NO ONE on the Sharks has ever come through when it matters, since they've never won the cup. Their season has ended with a loss every single time.

Joe is 29. He's got a few years left to come through.

[TheSupafly 50]

As much as i banter i respect the Sharks and i realize they are our only competition come playoffs.

I wish I could say the same, but as a Shark fan I'm worried about everyone come playoff time.

[Yak19 303]

That's not how he accrued those points, but clearly there is no changing your mind.

I thought he had a good series against Dallas last year, but by your rational, NO ONE on the Sharks has ever come through when it matters, since they've never won the cup. Their season has ended with a loss every single time.

Joe is 29. He's got a few years left to come through.

^^^ But isnt that what you expect from such an elite player? Which he is but to date he hasn't had that final push.

I wish I could say the same, but as a Shark fan I'm worried about everyone come playoff time.

This is by far the best Sharks team i have seen since they became a franchise. Its true anything can happen in any game and or series.

Dont take my smack talk all serious, sometimes i just vent this way. Good Game.

See you February 25th.

[datsyukismyfriend 4]

i love how babcock pins the loss on datsyuk not finishing on his breakaway. you ******* kidding babs? dats was your best player tonight. try tightening up your d and putting in the better goaltender. ya think? try getting the hunger and energy out of the wings that the sharks had tonight. that was the difference.

[Yak19 303]

i love how babcock pins the loss on datsyuk not finishing on his breakaway. you ******* kidding babs? dats was your best player tonight. try tightening up your d and putting in the better goaltender. ya think? try getting the hunger and energy out of the wings that the sharks had tonight. that was the difference.

WOW! I missed that, he actually said that? The defense was the problem in the 3rd and thats the long and short of it.

Ya it would be nice to have that hunger and energy but its funny how we were keeping up with just pure talent, like i said they played at 60% tonight.

Edited January 18, 2009 by Yak19

[datsyukismyfriend 4]

WOW! I missed that, he actually said that? The defense was the problem in the 3rd and thats the long and short of it.

i didn't see the post-game, so it may be out of context, but that's how he's quoted in the game summary on espn.com.

"They scored on their breakaways, and we didn't score on ours. We had [Dan] Cleary all by himself, and didn't finish. Pav[el Datsyuk] was home free on a breakaway, and didn't finish. There's the hockey game."

http://scores.espn.go.com/nhl/recap?gameId=290117018

Edited January 18, 2009 by datsyukismyfriend

[datsyukismyfriend 4]

WOW! I missed that, he actually said that? The defense was the problem in the 3rd and thats the long and short of it.

Ya it would be nice to have that hunger and energy but its funny how we were keeping up with just pure talent, like i said they played at 60% tonight.

the wings are definitely the more talented team. unfortunately, the sharks are the bigger, stronger, faster, and hungrier team. i think these latter qualities, at least at this point in the season, more than make up for the talent gap between the two teams.

another thing they have on us is they can roll 4 lines. their fourth line is better than ours. our top three lines our great, but the drop off after that is significant.

[Yak19 303]

i didn't see the post-game, so it may be out of context, but that's how he's quoted in the game summary on espn.com.

"They scored on their breakaways, and we didn't score on ours. We had [Dan] Cleary all by himself, and didn't finish. Pav[el Datsyuk] was home free on a breakaway, and didn't finish. There's the hockey game."

http://scores.espn.go.com/nhl/recap?gameId=290117018

To some extent i would agree but thats not "the hockey game," we could have not had defensive lapses in the 3rd, Ozzie could have saved 1 of the 2 breakaways, the joke 5-3 could not have been called. Alot of things happened in this game that gave us the loss.

[datsyukismyfriend 4]

To some extent i would agree but thats not "the hockey game," we could have not had defensive lapses in the 3rd, Ozzie could have saved 1 of the 2 breakaways, the joke 5-3 could not have been called. Alot of things happened in this game that gave us the loss.

exactly. pinning the loss on datsyuk and cleary is ridiculous.

[soultrain 43]

if you want to blame anybody...blame the 40+ shots that ozzy faced....jesus...for the best and deepest d-core in hockey, we really f'n blow d's for cheese. some nights the d-men are on point. tonight was not the night. they may have been tired. oh but the sharks are #1 right now. i went to the game...I MADE SURE THEY DIDN'T FORGET WHERE THE CUP LIVES!!! i kept yelling "go champs!" hella crazy all night.

[Jedi 1,865]

I'm not at all alluding to a conspiracy or anything, so please don't take it as that. I just find it funny about the recent history of questionable calls (or lack thereof) between us and the Sharks.

Last year, a puck goes off the safety netting, which should be whistled dead. Instead, Setoguchi scores a goal, and the refs do nothing. (Though, in their defense, they can't call that kind of play back... though they SHOULD be able to...) That goal turns out to be the game winner...

Tonight, Marleau scores on a breakaway, when he (from my eyes at least) was clearly offsides... Again, the linesmen didn't call it, so the refs can't overturn it. Turns out to be the game winner...

*shakes head*

In the end, defensive breakdowns cost us this game. Nothing else. One breakaway like that is bad enough. Two breakaways is unacceptable. Having those two breakaways only 3:06 apart? There's just no explanation.

[Guest nutz2u]

I didn't stay up to watch the game because I figured we would lose when they announced that Osgood would be in goal. Guessed right, however in looking at the stats, Stuart and Kronwall were on for 4 of the 6 goals, that sucks and I don't give a s*** who is in goal when you score 5 f***in goals you should win. Soooo, Osgood, kronner and Stuart should all sit and WATCH 3 or 4 games, maybe that will wake them up. Those 3 have sucked most of the year and the only reason the team has a decent record is because of the offence. It's tough to score 4 goals a game but that seems to be the standard when Osgood is in goal.......... Pretty amazing how good Ozzie was last year and how bad he has been so far this season. Sad to say, but I guess it's time to go with Conklin.

[stormboy 47]

To some extent i would agree but thats not "the hockey game," we could have not had defensive lapses in the 3rd, Ozzie could have saved 1 of the 2 breakaways, the joke 5-3 could not have been called. Alot of things happened in this game that gave us the loss.

having not heard babs's statements in context, i can't necessarily judge them. in once sense, it WAS the game: if dats scores and clearly scores in front of the net (all he had to do was elevate the puck), it's a 7-6 game instead of a 5-6 game. i think that's the point he was making. i don't think he was excusing the 5 GA, especially the last two breakaway goals. he could have also equally said, "if ozzie makes those two saves, we win. that's the game." or, he could have said, "if our D didn't allow two breakaways in the third, that's the game." all are true. we needed a) a couple more timely goals; b) better D in the third c) a couple of great saves from out goaltender. one of three would have won us the game. we didn't get any. you can pin the loss on any one of those three things, but it's not just ONE of them that was the problem. if d fails, goalie has to bail them out. if d and goalie fail, offense has to bail them out. if offense fails, d and/or goalie has to bail them out. no one did. that's why we lost.

[stormboy 47]

I didn't stay up to watch the game because I figured we would lose when they announced that Osgood would be in goal. Guessed right, however in looking at the stats, Stuart and Kronwall were on for 4 of the 6 goals, that sucks and I don't give a s*** who is in goal when you score 5 f***in goals you should win. Soooo, Osgood, kronner and Stuart should all sit and WATCH 3 or 4 games, maybe that will wake them up. Those 3 have sucked most of the year and the only reason the team has a decent record is because of the offence. It's tough to score 4 goals a game but that seems to be the standard when Osgood is in goal.......... Pretty amazing how good Ozzie was last year and how bad he has been so far this season. Sad to say, but I guess it's time to go with Conklin.

you, sir, are a dick. the rest of your post actually makes logical sense, but f*** you if you're not willing to stay up and watch the game because you assume we're going to lose. fans watch every last minute of a 7-0 loss.

enjoy your bandwagon victories; the wings will give you plenty.

Edited January 18, 2009 by stormboy

[Guest nutz2u]

you, sir, are a dick. the rest of your post actually makes logical sense, but f*** you if you're not willing to stay up and watch the game because you assume we're going to lose. fans watch every last minute of a 7-0 loss.

enjoy your bandwagon victories.

And f*** you DICKWAD........

[stormboy 47]

And f*** you DICKWAD........

fair enough to respond in kind. i am not usually a combative poster; will you at least acknowledge the fact that stating that you are not going to watch a game because you assume your team is going to lose is a little...weak, at least.

by the way: i at least gave reasons for my combativeness. you gave none.