MacK_Attack 108 Report post Posted February 10, 2009 You're just used to seeing Leafs games full of rabid fans because Leaf tickets are harder to find than heterosexual male hairdressers. (although the undying need to attend Leaf games may have helped contribute to the lack of drive to improve the team on the part of the management cabal) It's not that people have to see the Leafs, but that a huge portion of the non-corporate season tickets are people who have had tickets in their family since 1947 (or before that) and know that if they give them up, they will never see them again. You're stuck between a rock and a hard place. Since the season ticket base is so huge (15,000+) there's precious few tickets that actually make it to the buying public, which allows for the mark-up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
C-TownWing 0 Report post Posted February 10, 2009 I did my own homework...one thing to keep in mind is that hockey rinks are bigger than basketball courts, so NBA teams generally have bigger capacities, especially when it's in the same arena. The Blackhawks number excludes the Winter Classic. * means that the team is drawing 99% of capacity or better Considering the Canadian teams mostly get left out for this, the NHL stacks up pretty well... Same Arena NHL draws better: Chicago (21,663*/21,003), Philadelphia (19,441*/14,743), Washington (18,018/16,553), Toronto (19,290*/18,961) NBA draws better: Atlanta (16,544/14,485), New York (19,168/18,158*), Dallas (20,017*/17,595), Boston (18,624*/16,859), Los Angeles (18,997* [Lakers]/16,036 [Kings]/15,451 [Clippers]), Denver (16,949/15,642) Different Arena NHL draws better: Minnesota (18,568*/13,976), New Jersey (15,419/14,863) NBA draws better: Detroit (22,062*/19,741), Miami (17,700/14,948), Phoenix (18,422*/14,892) Different (but similar) Cities NHL draws better: Tennessee (14,523 [Predators]/12,584 [Grizzlies]), North Carolina (15,433 [Hurricanes]/14,197 [bobcats]) NBA draws better: Ohio (19,620 [Cavaliers]/14,937 [blue Jackets]), Bay Area (18,872 [Warriors]/17,484* [sharks]), Central Florida (16,775 [Magic]/16,455 [Lightning]) Oddballs NHL: Montreal (21,273*), Calgary (19,289*), Ottawa (18,863*), Vancouver (18,630*), St. Louis (18,542), Buffalo (18,479), Pittsburgh (16,926*), Anaheim (16,897), Edmonton (16,839*), NY Islanders (13,511) NBA: Portland (20,545*), Utah (19,899*), Oklahoma City (18,578), San Antonio (17,972), Houston (17,483), New Orleans (16,707), Milwaukee (15,215), Indiana (13,490), Sacramento (12,404) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GoWings1905 2,694 Report post Posted February 10, 2009 I understand the Pistons claim 22,062, but that figure is hardly accurate to the actual attendance. I guess my point is that although it appears the Pistons aren't struggling with attendance, the Palace looks half-empty for most games. The economy is really hurting both Detroit teams. Having been to both venues, I think ACTUAL attendance is probably better for the Red Wings than the Pistons. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gonz 0 Report post Posted February 10, 2009 I am a Pistons fan, but to be fair, there's no point in watching a basketball game until the last 10 minutes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
esteef 2,679 Report post Posted February 10, 2009 The NBA licks balls. esteef Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theman19 47 Report post Posted February 10, 2009 Something that isn't appropriate for this forum. I could spell it out in graphic detail if you'd prefer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
