Red Wings fans

[Ms_Hockey 0]

OK. For people that still don't get it.

I don't think I'm a super fan, but yes I think I'm a better fan than the people who don't pay attention to the game. Many people on here have expressed that it is annoying and frustrating trying to watch hockey with some a-hole going up and down getting beers during the middle of the period. (to that guy who does that. this isnt high school. no one cares how much you can drink)

I started this post because it was embarassing listening to the players talk about our fans like that. You know, those same guys that lead you onto this site everyday to see what they're doing. Also, I love the "worry about yourself" everyone has thrown out. How about this? Just respect the people around you, its really not that difficult.

I probably can add if this stuff doesn't bother you, you are probably the person annoying the hell out of me at games. Therefore I am confident I am a better fan than you. Sorry. To the fans that do feel the same way as me, thanks. I appreciate the fact that you like to watch hockey.

I enjoy watching hockey just as much as you do, I just don't enjoy telling others what to do with their time on a ticket they bought. If someone is standing in front of me obnoxiously for a prolonged period of time, I'll say something - otherwise, I'm too focused on the game to really care what the people around me are doing.

Like I said, it's frustrating - but there's not a whole lot you can do about it other than post threads on LGW.

[Canadian_Yzerman_Fan 7]

I have been lucky, every game i have gone to at the Joe I sat on the glass. If you don't like folks standing in front of you, get down to the glass. No one has ever got in my way.

you have been VERY lucky... I want to be first in line for your tickets the next time you can't make it to a game... Sitting at the glass would be a dream come true... some of us don't have the money for that

[Kevvie 0]

OK. For people that still don't get it.

I don't think I'm a super fan, but yes I think I'm a better fan than the people who don't pay attention to the game. Many people on here have expressed that it is annoying and frustrating trying to watch hockey with some a-hole going up and down getting beers during the middle of the period. (to that guy who does that. this isnt high school. no one cares how much you can drink)

I started this post because it was embarassing listening to the players talk about our fans like that. You know, those same guys that lead you onto this site everyday to see what they're doing. Also, I love the "worry about yourself" everyone has thrown out. How about this? Just respect the people around you, its really not that difficult.

I probably can add if this stuff doesn't bother you, you are probably the person annoying the hell out of me at games. Therefore I am confident I am a better fan than you. Sorry. To the fans that do feel the same way as me, thanks. I appreciate the fact that you like to watch hockey.

If you want respect, you should give respect. Maybe you need to respect the comfort, needs and schedules of the people around you.

[crispychris 45]

well a lot of it is not luck, i fly up from Tampa by my self so it is not that hard to find ONE ticket for the games I come up for. I have found a guy on stub hub who sells his ticket SEC 115 ROW 1 SEAT 1 for face or just above I ******* LOVE that seat as it is right behind the goal the wings shoot at

[mikiemike24 0]

If you want respect, you should give respect. Maybe you need to respect the comfort, needs and schedules of the people around you.

So are you totally clueless? I simply asked if people wouldn't stand up during play, why is that so hard to ask for in a city called Hockeytown.

For example-

Fan- "Excuse me usher, I got stuck in traffic but can you tell me where my seats are."

Usher- "Sure, they are right there."

Fan- "Thanks that was helpful. I'm going to wait until the tv timeout so I don't block anyones view."

Usher- "Thats a good idea, its only going to be like 50 seconds anyway."

Fan- "Exactly, there is no reason not to wait, plus I can see the ice better from here."

Usher- "You should try that when you want to come back down as well."

Fan- "Oh I will. And at least ill be sitting then." (chuckle chuckle)

Usher- Laughing...."Good one. Enjoy the game."

[dweise 0]

Every game I have been to the past five years I've seen the most ridiculous fans at Red Wings games. I have never seen this topic brought up but I am fairly new to these forums so I dont know if its been talked about.

1. Why are there so many people strolling into the rink late? Don't get me wrong, I know things come up and there is traffic but it seems like it happens all of the time.

2. Why are people up and down non-stop during the period? This isn't a friday night high school football game, I actually go to see my team play which is kind of hard when people are standing in front of me all of the time. I missed two playoff goals last year because someone was going down to get something to eat.

3. If you need to go up or down, how about a tv time out or even a stop in the play. While you're doing that, maybe you could hustle a little bit.

4. Why are there so many people who have no clue where there seats are? Its really not that hard, and if it is, please ask an usher and they will show you exactly where to go. It seems like I miss at least five minutes of the first period with these people standing in front of me, looking all over for there seats.

5. Why is staying until the end of the game so hard? I understand that everyone wants to beat the rush but if there is only a 1 or 2 goal difference in the game, everyone should stay. Again things come up and people have to get to work or school in the morning, but again please at least try to leave during a tv timeout or at least a stopage.

Anyway, this has been bothering me for the past few years and so I just wanted to see what other fans thought. The last straw was listening to the swedes talk about how they are looking to play in front of their fans back home next year. You will hear subtle jabs about the fans in Detroit. I think Franzen says something like, "The fans back home don't get up in the middle of the game to get a burger." Its pretty embarassing when your own team notices how many people don't pay attention to the game. You can hear the wings talk about the fans on Red Wings tv- Wings to Sweden.

Yes, I am a season ticket holder and I actually go to see the Red Wings play. Let me know your thoughts.

Detroit Sucks. That should answer all your questions.

[Wingsin09 0]

Detroit Sucks. That should answer all your questions.

Oh! how original! Let me guess. you are a Chicago or Colorado fan.

Edited March 3, 2009 by CopenhagenWing

[sureWhyNot 19]

Any Canadian team? Fans that are actually passionate about the game they are attending?

Ya -- How about the Quebec Nordique fanbase! They are, err, I mean were perfect!

[redwing_sparty 0]

some people are just clueless. it's common courtesy to not get up in the middle of play. that said, it will happen. i;ll give you a break if you do it once but if you keep doing it i'll say something.

it always bugs me when people start taking off early just to try to beat traffic. i can understand leaving a game if your team is killing the other team, or getting killed. i guess its not that much different from turning the game off when ur watching at home.

i def think the type of fans you see at wings games has changed since 2000. in the 90s it seemed like there were a lot more middle/working class people coming in and filling the place up. I'm sure the horrible economy and the auto companies falling apart has accounted for a large part of this, but also i think for a lot of wings fans, they don;t get really pumped until playoff times. with 82 reg season games to watch and being of a fan of a team that is expected to win the vast majority of those games, fans get a bit complacent and would rather spend money on a game they know is going to be exciting. plus watching games in hd is about as good as it gets without being at the game.

Edited March 3, 2009 by redwing_sparty

[redwing_sparty 0]

So are you totally clueless? I simply asked if people wouldn't stand up during play, why is that so hard to ask for in a city called Hockeytown.

For example-

Fan- "Excuse me usher, I got stuck in traffic but can you tell me where my seats are."

Usher- "Sure, they are right there."

Fan- "Thanks that was helpful. I'm going to wait until the tv timeout so I don't block anyones view."

Usher- "Thats a good idea, its only going to be like 50 seconds anyway."

Fan- "Exactly, there is no reason not to wait, plus I can see the ice better from here."

Usher- "You should try that when you want to come back down as well."

Fan- "Oh I will. And at least ill be sitting then." (chuckle chuckle)

Usher- Laughing...."Good one. Enjoy the game."

btw you will have a hard time finding one sports fan in the world who is that polite.

[mikiemike24 0]

btw you will have a hard time finding one sports fan in the world who is that polite.

I know. It was an exaggeration but it could be like that if you wanted it to be. Thanks for a knowledgeable post. Its a lot better than, its their money so they can do what they want. Or its everyone's first game and they all got caught in traffic.

[Electrophile 3,554]

It's fine to have your opinions about how people should behave at games, but to insinuate that people are lesser fans than you because they don't comport themselves in the way you think they should is ridiculous.

That's basically the post of the thread.

Look, I have the same complaints about people when I go to rock concerts, but again......I'm in public. I don't have the right to tell the people around me how to behave so that I am not inconvenienced during the show. That's not my place.

[Electrophile 3,554]

Also, I've been a s***-ton of sporting events, mostly baseball and hockey and have had to deal with all manner of fans sitting around me. Have I had to deal with what you're talking about? Sure. However, if I have to go to the bathroom, I'm going to go and if I stand up and block your view for the 10 seconds it takes for my fat ass to clear your spacial horizon.....then so be it. I think in that case, it's ridiculous to expect people who spend most of the night drinking (be it beer or pop) to not urinate for the whole night lest they get in your way. Come on now. We're adults here.

Case in point. I was in Chicago back in April of '06 to see David Gilmour on tour. David ******* Gilmour. The man who literally makes my spine weak. That guy. So yeah, I had some numbnut in front of me DANCING TO COMFORTABLY NUMB (the horror!) in front of me and instead of saying something, I got up and stood in the aisle for the rest of the number and when he plopped back down, I went back to my seat. That's how I thought an adult would handle the situation. I paid to get in, he paid to get in. He wants to dance like a monkey getting shocked in the nads, then fine. I'll merely remove myself from his area and enjoy myself. No biggie.

I'm not suggesting that's what YOU should do, but if people pay to get into wherever you're at, as long as they're not breaking the rules and codes of that building, you suck it up.

[mikiemike24 0]

Also, I've been a s***-ton of sporting events, mostly baseball and hockey and have had to deal with all manner of fans sitting around me. Have I had to deal with what you're talking about? Sure. However, if I have to go to the bathroom, I'm going to go and if I stand up and block your view for the 10 seconds it takes for my fat ass to clear your spacial horizon.....then so be it. I think in that case, it's ridiculous to expect people who spend most of the night drinking (be it beer or pop) to not urinate for the whole night lest they get in your way. Come on now. We're adults here.

Case in point. I was in Chicago back in April of '06 to see David Gilmour on tour. David ******* Gilmour. The man who literally makes my spine weak. That guy. So yeah, I had some numbnut in front of me DANCING TO COMFORTABLY NUMB (the horror!) in front of me and instead of saying something, I got up and stood in the aisle for the rest of the number and when he plopped back down, I went back to my seat. That's how I thought an adult would handle the situation. I paid to get in, he paid to get in. He wants to dance like a monkey getting shocked in the nads, then fine. I'll merely remove myself from his area and enjoy myself. No biggie.

I'm not suggesting that's what YOU should do, but if people pay to get into wherever you're at, as long as they're not breaking the rules and codes of that building, you suck it up.

This is hockey, not a concert. A concert is totally different. Chances are you know very little about hockey if you just compared the two.

[Electrophile 3,554]

This is hockey, not a concert. A concert is totally different. Chances are you know very little about hockey if you just compared the two.

If you want to play that game, we'll play. And I guarantee you'll lose.

I was comparing two public events where mass groups of people congregate. WHENEVER you have that, you are bound to have people around you who are not behaving the way you think they should. It doesn't matter if it's a concert or a hockey game. In both situations you will encounter people who aren't there for the same reasons you are. However, they still paid to get in to that public event. So, they can do whatever they want as long as they're not breaking any rules or codes of the building they're in. If it annoys you, get over it. That's what you do when you're at a public event where mass groups of people congregate. You don't stamp your feet and shake your tiny fists in impotent rage.

People show up late, they leave early. They get up a lot to eat/drink/pee/poop. They jump up and act like fools when you'd rather they not. They are humans. If you don't like watching hockey games surrounded by 17,000 unpredictable humans, what would you prefer the alternative to be, sir? A special section just for you? Maybe a sign posted in your row that you're sitting there and here are all the things people are not to do?

Dare I say, get over yourself.

[Kevvie 0]

So are you totally clueless? I simply asked if people wouldn't stand up during play, why is that so hard to ask for in a city called Hockeytown.

For example-

Fan- "Excuse me usher, I got stuck in traffic but can you tell me where my seats are."

Usher- "Sure, they are right there."

Fan- "Thanks that was helpful. I'm going to wait until the tv timeout so I don't block anyones view."

Usher- "Thats a good idea, its only going to be like 50 seconds anyway."

Fan- "Exactly, there is no reason not to wait, plus I can see the ice better from here."

Usher- "You should try that when you want to come back down as well."

Fan- "Oh I will. And at least ill be sitting then." (chuckle chuckle)

Usher- Laughing...."Good one. Enjoy the game."

Yes. Totally clueless as to why you are so uptight about this. I agree, it can get annoying, but you can't dictate what people do. They will get to the arena when they get there. That's it. Sometimes ushers are busy. Like I asked earlier...Did you offer help to any of these people? I doubt it, because I'm guessing you can't be bothered with people who have not learned the layout of the Joe before showing up for the first time.

By the way, the city of Detroit being nicknamed Hockeytown has very little to do with your passive aggressiveness towards so-called "non fans". You don't know where these people come from, and you know absolutely nothing else about them...except for the fact that they stand up, and operate on a schedule that differs from yours.

Edit: spelling

Edited March 3, 2009 by Kevvie

[mikiemike24 0]

If you want to play that game, we'll play. And I guarantee you'll lose.

I was comparing two public events where mass groups of people congregate. WHENEVER you have that, you are bound to have people around you who are not behaving the way you think they should. It doesn't matter if it's a concert or a hockey game. In both situations you will encounter people who aren't there for the same reasons you are. However, they still paid to get in to that public event. So, they can do whatever they want as long as they're not breaking any rules or codes of the building they're in. If it annoys you, get over it. That's what you do when you're at a public event where mass groups of people congregate. You don't stamp your feet and shake your tiny fists in impotent rage.

People show up late, they leave early. They get up a lot to eat/drink/pee/poop. They jump up and act like fools when you'd rather they not. They are humans. If you don't like watching hockey games surrounded by 17,000 unpredictable humans, what would you prefer the alternative to be, sir? A special section just for you? Maybe a sign posted in your row that you're sitting there and here are all the things people are not to do?

Dare I say, get over yourself.

I have no problem standing the whole game, not sure what you're talking about. The problem with standing is I have 10 guys behind me going wild because they can't see which then brings me back to the original problem. Because the issue isn't standing or sitting, its simply being able to watch the game that I paid money to see. Please come up with a comment that actually pertains to the problem.

Also, you still cant compare a guy dancing at a concert to a guy going down to the concessions at a Red Wings game.

[Kevvie 0]

If you want to play that game, we'll play. And I guarantee you'll lose.

I was comparing two public events where mass groups of people congregate. WHENEVER you have that, you are bound to have people around you who are not behaving the way you think they should. It doesn't matter if it's a concert or a hockey game. In both situations you will encounter people who aren't there for the same reasons you are. However, they still paid to get in to that public event. So, they can do whatever they want as long as they're not breaking any rules or codes of the building they're in. If it annoys you, get over it. That's what you do when you're at a public event where mass groups of people congregate. You don't stamp your feet and shake your tiny fists in impotent rage.

People show up late, they leave early. They get up a lot to eat/drink/pee/poop. They jump up and act like fools when you'd rather they not. They are humans. If you don't like watching hockey games surrounded by 17,000 unpredictable humans, what would you prefer the alternative to be, sir? A special section just for you? Maybe a sign posted in your row that you're sitting there and here are all the things people are not to do?

Dare I say, get over yourself.

[mikiemike24 0]

Yes. Totally clueless as to why you are so uptight about this. I agree, it can get annoying, but you can't dictate what people do. They will get to the arena when they get there. That's it. Sometimes ushers are busy. Like I asked earlier...Did you offer help to any of these people? I doubt it, because I'm guessing you can't be bothered with people who have not learned the layout of the Joe before showing up for the first time.

The usher is too busy during the middle of the play? I find that hard to believe. Its not like you have to take a number to ask the usher a question. He/she can actually tell you were you're seats are in about 5 seconds, not that long. If the usher is responding to an emergency, yes I will help but its really not that hard to ask the usher

Edited March 3, 2009 by mikiemike24

[Kevvie 0]

Dude...you're reaching. When I first read the post, I was thinking that you had a gripe, you wanted to let it out, share with others. You wanted to see if anyone shares your views. That's fine. You got some replies supporting you and that's fine, too. Every post with a view that does not totally support yours is met with ridicule and disdain. Big surprise. Now you just sound like a spoiled ten year old and you are going to take your ball, or puck, and go home. If these problems are so bad that you can't enjoy a hockey game, don't go. It's easier than getting 17,000 people to do exactly what you want for a couple of hours. If you still want to go watch hockey, I suggest you build a bridge...and get over it!

[Electrophile 3,554]

I have no problem standing the whole game, not sure what you're talking about. The problem with standing is I have 10 guys behind me going wild because they can't see which then brings me back to the original problem. Because the issue isn't standing or sitting, its simply being able to watch the game that I paid money to see. Please come up with a comment that actually pertains to the problem.

Also, you still cant compare a guy dancing at a concert to a guy going down to the concessions at a Red Wings game.

I did come up with comments that pertained to the problem. You're choosing to ignore them because they don't fit the answers you expected people to give you. How is that my problem? I have paid money to see sporting events and had people standing up in front of me when I'm trying to see what's going on, and I GET OVER IT. Okay? I accept that the way I watch sports is not the way they choose to watch sports and it would be utterly fruitless for me to get indignant about it.

Furthermore, I sure as hell can compare a guy dancing at a concert to someone going to the concession stand at a sporting event because in both cases, they are nuisances for the people around them. Are you obtuse on purpose or are you honestly not seeing the parallels I'm drawing here?

You seem to think that because you're a season ticket holder and you keep your ass in your chair the whole time, you are a better class of fan than someone who doesn't. Right there, that is patently pompous. You're no better than anyone, sir. If I pay the same amount of money or even less than you did for the seat I'm occupying, I can get up as I please, get as much food as I please or pee as often as I please and you have not one right to say a damn thing to me about it unless I'm being abusive or hostile.

Again, you are watching a hockey game around 17,000 unpredictable humans. "Unpredictable" and "human" being the key words.

[dweise 0]

Oh! how original! Let me guess. you are a Chicago or Colorado fan.

You're from San Antonio and you like a team from detroit. I lol'd.

Edited March 3, 2009 by CopenhagenWing

[Electrophile 3,554]

You're from San Antonio and you like a team from detroit. I lol'd.

What does a person's geographic location have to do with anything? I wasn't aware that Red Wings fans were to only come from Detroit. I'm from Chicago and have been a die-hard fan since before Bowman took over. So care to share what's so funny with the rest of us?

[Guest Shoreline]

OK. For people that still don't get it.

I don't think I'm a super fan, but yes I think I'm a better fan than the people who don't pay attention to the game. Many people on here have expressed that it is annoying and frustrating trying to watch hockey with some a-hole going up and down getting beers during the middle of the period. (to that guy who does that. this isnt high school. no one cares how much you can drink)

I started this post because it was embarassing listening to the players talk about our fans like that. You know, those same guys that lead you onto this site everyday to see what they're doing. Also, I love the "worry about yourself" everyone has thrown out. How about this? Just respect the people around you, its really not that difficult.

I probably can add if this stuff doesn't bother you, you are probably the person annoying the hell out of me at games. Therefore I am confident I am a better fan than you. Sorry. To the fans that do feel the same way as me, thanks. I appreciate the fact that you like to watch hockey.

I dunno why, but you remind me of one of those douches who sit on the sidewalk and nitpick about how everyone is driving or behaving. I think in your nitpicking about others you're overlooking that maybe your superior-like attitude annoys people just as much.

Also, when you are at an arena with tens of thousands of people, you likely deal with the fact that there are assholes, or maybe they have a legitimate reason -- as long as they don't do jumping jacks in front of your face, it isn't a big ******* deal. If a player or fan doesn't like it, f*** them. I don't pay money to see a game and have a good time to appease to a few fans or an extreme few players (I never hear about this so I'm assuming it's a needle in a haystack) who feel like telling me when to get up and walk around. Besides, if someone wants to get up and miss some of the game, so be it. They paid, they can do pretty much whatever they want.

[dweise 0]

What does a person's geographic location have to do with anything? I wasn't aware that Red Wings fans were to only come from Detroit. I'm from Chicago and have been a die-hard fan since before Bowman took over. So care to share what's so funny with the rest of us?

How badly detroit sucks, its really pretty hilarious.