albo23 10 Report post Posted March 24, 2009 Well, I DVR'd yesterdays game and I watched up until he got pulled - I'm done with Oz. He is absolute garbage, first one goes over his shoulder from 25 feet away, second he knocks in, third slides right past him. What is up for next year and what is our plan for the playoffs? Conklin is very well out for next year and he will have to bring one from the minors. How can we continue next year with ozzie? Also, does anyone know if Larsson will ever get a try in the NHL? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingslionstigers 12 Report post Posted March 24, 2009 I think from here on out your going to see Conklin get most of the starts to get prepared to be our starter in the playoffs. Next year who knows. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PROBIE4PREZ 58 Report post Posted March 24, 2009 Not going to find a UPGRADE goalie for Ozzie's price .. and the fact that Howard has been in the minors for a year to long its safe to say Ozzie-Howard tandem is what ur going to get. baring serious money moving. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevkrause 1,247 Report post Posted March 24, 2009 Not going to find a UPGRADE goalie for Ozzie's price .. and the fact that Howard has been in the minors for a year to long its safe to say Ozzie-Howard tandem is what ur going to get. baring serious money moving. I think this is almost a definite, with Howard getting every chance possible to upseat Ozzie as the #1 starter going into the beginning of the year... if Howard faulters, you can guarantee that you will see Ozzie as starter again for next year, with a GOOD possibility that Larsson actually sees some regular season time to see where he's at... In the event that Howard shines, he will be starter and Ozzie backup for the duration of the contract... Howard faulters and you can GUARANTEE he will be dealt and someone else brought in by the deadline to backstop us, with Ozzie still being backup... all and all, I see Ozzie as a backup one way or another next year and Howard or someone else as starter Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phazon 24 Report post Posted March 24, 2009 why is howard favored over larsson anyway? They have similar numbers in AHL, the difference is that larsson in his first AHL season while howard is on his 5th. It seems to me that larsson has had succes a lot earlier and younger. Time to give the kid atleast 1 game in the NHL. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titanium2 867 Report post Posted March 24, 2009 Can't they just drop Howard's and Meech's salaries to make a contract for Conklin? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungGuns1340 1 Report post Posted March 24, 2009 Not going to find a UPGRADE goalie for Ozzie's price .. and the fact that Howard has been in the minors for a year to long its safe to say Ozzie-Howard tandem is what ur going to get. baring serious money moving. Who said it had to be Ozzie's price? Holland is going to have to be creative all over the roster, unless he wants to end up with the same shoddy defense, same s***ty goaltending, and a downgraded offense by nature of the cap. The playoffs will tell us a lot. If Ozzie gets the nod and steps up, itll quell most peoples fears. But if he sputters, then going into next season with a 37 year old Osgood and a disappointing Howard is even scarier than what we have now. And this will come on top of cutting depth - or stars - at forward. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MaynardJKeenan 1 Report post Posted March 24, 2009 Ozzy played 4 good games before last night. I think between him and Conks, we will be fine come playoff time. As far as next year, I agree that it will be Ozzy and Howard. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungGuns1340 1 Report post Posted March 24, 2009 why is howard favored over larsson anyway? They have similar numbers in AHL, the difference is that larsson in his first AHL season while howard is on his 5th. It seems to me that larsson has had succes a lot earlier and younger. Time to give the kid atleast 1 game in the NHL. Because hes older. Why is Kopecky favored over Leino? Maltby over Helm? Theyre older. Its how the Wings operate, and always have. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungGuns1340 1 Report post Posted March 24, 2009 Ozzy played 4 good games before last night. I think between him and Conks, we will be fine come playoff time. As far as next year, I agree that it will be Ozzy and Howard. And Brian Boucher had a 5 game shutout streak to his name years ago before returning to the same goalie he was and always is. Osgod played well for 4 weeks. Out of the entire year. And last night, he was atrocious. At this point the good games are the exception, not the bad ones. Logically speaking, the good games are the flukes - like Boucher's shutout streak - and the bad ones are where he stands. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carman 387 Report post Posted March 24, 2009 Three scenarios I see playing out. 1. Lose in the first two rounds due to goaltending = Big roster movies to get a 30+ veteran/proven goalie. 2. Go deep into playoffs (Conference finals) and goal tending wasn't a huge issue= Osgood/Howard next year. 3. Osgood blows his chance in the playoffs and Conklin leads us to a cup = Conklin/Howard next year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VM1138 1,921 Report post Posted March 24, 2009 Our goaltending situation will sort itself out come playoff time. Once again, our defense is still pretty bad. Hopefully they will work out their problems, too. Next year we have to go with Ozzie and Howard, which doesn't bode well. Unless Ozzie shakes his hangover, relying on Howard is going to doom us next year. We can't really afford an upgrade in net. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Shoreline Report post Posted March 24, 2009 I think I saw Osgood play sometime in his 15+ year career. He was pulled, and I said f*** this Osgood is Osbad. He can't save s***. He can't win any cups, he can't help any team he's with. He's garbage. Someone should mail him a knife with a print-out of the Wikipedia "hara-kiri" entry so he can get it over with. Hell, even when he's with the Wings this season, he isn't helping them win any games. If the Wings aren't winning 82 games or at least 100% of the games with Osgood, he sucks and needs to go. f*** Osgood. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MaynardJKeenan 1 Report post Posted March 24, 2009 And Brian Boucher had a 5 game shutout streak to his name years ago before returning to the same goalie he was and always is. Osgod played well for 4 weeks. Out of the entire year. And last night, he was atrocious. At this point the good games are the exception, not the bad ones. Logically speaking, the good games are the flukes - like Boucher's shutout streak - and the bad ones are where he stands. Comparing Boucher and The Wizard? Three time Cup winning Ozzy, two as a starter? I know he has been bad this year but I believe we will do well this year with what we've got. The team just needs to step up their play on D a little and score 3 goals a game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vladifan 680 Report post Posted March 24, 2009 Our goaltending situation will sort itself out come playoff time. Once again, our defense is still pretty bad. Hopefully they will work out their problems, too. Next year we have to go with Ozzie and Howard, which doesn't bode well. Unless Ozzie shakes his hangover, relying on Howard is going to doom us next year. We can't really afford an upgrade in net. Unless, Whoever forbid, Hossa sees what's up with the goalie thing and decides to move to a team with a better chance at winning the Cup. The only good thing that would come out of that is that they might have the money then to get a better, more consistent goalie. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carman 387 Report post Posted March 24, 2009 I think I saw Osgood play sometime in his 15+ year career. He was pulled, and I said f*** this Osgood is Osbad. He can't save s***. He can't win any cups, he can't help any team he's with. He's garbage. Someone should mail him a knife with a print-out of the Wikipedia "hara-kiri" entry so he can get it over with. Hell, even when he's with the Wings this season, he isn't helping them win any games. If the Wings aren't winning 82 games or at least 100% of the games with Osgood, he sucks and needs to go. f*** Osgood. He is old. Old people don't play as well as they did when they were young. It's pretty simple. He isn't what he was. Face it. I'm. Going. To. Use. Periods. Because. I'm. Not. Being. Sarcastic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Shoreline Report post Posted March 24, 2009 He is old. Old people don't play as well as they did when they were young. It's pretty simple. He isn't what he was. Face it. I'm. Going. To. Use. Periods. Because. I'm. Not. Being. Sarcastic. Indeed. He's old and he sucks. I could lay down on my side in the crease, one hand waving about, the other hand flipping pages in a porn mag, and stop more pucks than him. I'd laugh my ass off if someone had said something as stupid as how this season Conklin and Osgood have switched roles and Osgood is playing as Conklin was earlier in the season, or even worse, that Osgood actually helped this team win the cup last season. He's just too old to do s***. How are his bones not falling apart? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungGuns1340 1 Report post Posted March 24, 2009 Comparing Boucher and The Wizard? Three time Cup winning Ozzy, two as a starter? I know he has been bad this year but I believe we will do well this year with what we've got. The team just needs to step up their play on D a little and score 3 goals a game. That was an analogy. As in, two things that don't have to be entirely same to be compared. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Duck Guy 86 Report post Posted March 24, 2009 True he has not been awesome this year... but lately it looks like he is getting better 1 bad game is not enough to throw him under the bus. If it was like the beggining of the season where ozzy was sucking like 4 games in a row then thats ok... but 1 game i dont think so. And I am pretty sure ozzy will be starter for next year that would be the smartest opition. All goalies have not so good years and usually bounce back. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungGuns1340 1 Report post Posted March 24, 2009 Indeed. He's old and he sucks. I could lay down on my side in the crease, one hand waving about, the other hand flipping pages in a porn mag, and stop more pucks than him. I'd laugh my ass off if someone had said something as stupid as how this season Conklin and Osgood have switched roles and Osgood is playing as Conklin was earlier in the season, or even worse, that Osgood actually helped this team win the cup last season. He's just too old to do s***. How are his bones not falling apart? Being facetious doesn't change the fact that Osgood is very likely not going to get any better than he is now considering his age. It only took 2 seasons for Cheli to fall from a Norris nominee to a borderline #4. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GoalieManPat 1,007 Report post Posted March 24, 2009 True he has not been awesome this year... but lately it looks like he is getting better 1 bad game is not enough to throw him under the bus. If it was like the beggining of the season where ozzy was sucking like 4 games in a row then thats ok... but 1 game i dont think so. And I am pretty sure ozzy will be starter for next year that would be the smartest opition. All goalies have not so good years and usually bounce back. The only issue I have with the "its just one game" theory is that the just one games have outnumbered the solid games 4 to 1 this season. Ozzie has only been able to put together 3-4 solid game streaks 2 or 3 times the whole season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
finalfilppula 2 Report post Posted March 24, 2009 since when was it decided that ozzie is done? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OsGOD 3 Report post Posted March 24, 2009 Ozzie/Howie in 09 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Shoreline Report post Posted March 24, 2009 True he has not been awesome this year... but lately it looks like he is getting better 1 bad game is not enough to throw him under the bus. Every season people have to throw some player under the bus, and they always find a loss to voice their displeasure.. ironically. It seems if the Wings aren't winning 82 games, 1st in every team stat, or tops in GAA/Save%/whatever stat we can find to bury a Wing player we don't like, some few malcontents will ***** and ***** and ***** and *****. Even more ironically, even after the cup win, I'm seeing the same posters bitching as if nothing even happened. Bitching and throwing Wing players under the bus has become regular after every loss. It's far too much a stretch for these few people to just shut the f*** up about their nitpicking and enjoy the fact that they can watch such a good team who is at the top of the standings every season in recent memory and in yet another battle to try and win the cup. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dano33 41 Report post Posted March 24, 2009 Ask yourself this... Do you want Hossa? or Do you want a top-tier goalie? (and we'll still lose Franzen and maybe Hudler too) EDIT: You can't have both in the cap world. Hossa Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
