Wings get no respect

[reggiedunlop 0]

priceless!

we all know that the people who come on here and talk s*** don't know s***!

in fact, their research on topics rivals the scouts on their team. let's see, penguins...for 5 years straight the media did their scouting for them. fleury, crosby, malkin...all picked by the media to go to the pens. they sucked for so long i guess... they'll be rebuilding in 5 or 6 years again, just wait. then the wings will be "underdogs" again to another young guns team. there's a HUGE difference between a team that has superstars that win scoring titles and a team that rolls 4 "good" lines and wins cups.

Leino 7:21

abdelkader 6:11

maltby 9:01

all three played less than our 4th line center who plays behind malkin crosby and staal..... so dont tell us about rolling buddy ha ha

meech 4:49

[reggiedunlop 0]

Until Zdeno Chara decided to put Crosby through the glass, sure. Then Lucic would come in and take care of Malkin, and then they'd get suspended for the rest of the playoffs for 'playing hockey'.

The Bruins were (and still will be next year, hopefully) deep like the Pens will never be, with their stars taking huge contracts. Thomas is an absolute beast in the net, and Savard/Kessel/Ryder would make you wish you had lost to the Caps.

The Bruins are essentially the Red Wings of the East, only with a little less talent and depth.

yet they are golfing watching the pens and wings play hockey........ interesting

[Theophany 110]

yet they are golfing watching the pens and wings play hockey........ interesting

Is it really that shocking to your feeble mind that it took 90% of what the Canes had left to beat the Bruins in 7 tough games that had a crazy amount of hitting?

It's frankly obvious that like most Pens fans, you have zero knowledge of hockey other than putting a puck in the net is how you win the game.

[Barrie 900]

I think the comparison between the 2008 and 2009 Stanley Cup Finals to the 1983 and 1984 Finals is a complete joke! The 2008 and 2009 Penguins are no where near the 1983 and 1984 Oilers! It's not even a comparison! The Oilers had Gretzky, Messier, Kurri, Anderson, Coffey, Huddy, Lowe, Fuhr, Moog, etc., etc., etc.. The Pens have Crosby, Malkin, Fleury, and ummmm. The Red Wings of 1995 to today are the Oilers of the 1980's. Pittsburgh is comparable to the teams the Oilers beat to win their 5 Stanley Cup Championships.

However, I don't mind all this talk, I hope it goes to Pittsburgh's players and their fans heads. They'll think they've already got this thing won, just because of history, even before playing a game. The Red Wings, just like Ozzie, will have more motivation to shut people up.

I expect Hossa to have a big series.

Pittsburgh is going to have to tighten up on "D", try and slow the Red Wings down, and try and control the play to beat the Red Wings. Good luck! The Red Wings will continue to use all 4 lines to perfection and have the puck all game. Plus we can still win games without Lidstrom, Datsyuk, and Draper to a team similar to Pittsburgh.

[Theophany 110]

I expect Hossa to have a big series.

This is the big thing. Hossa seems to have realized that he can smell the cup that he's been chasing since 1997, and is willing to carry the team on his back to get it, if he needs to.

It's just a good thing that the rest of our boys can smell it too, and have been ramping up their play.

[reggiedunlop 0]

Is it really that shocking to your feeble mind that it took 90% of what the Canes had left to beat the Bruins in 7 tough games that had a crazy amount of hitting?

It's frankly obvious that like most Pens fans, you have zero knowledge of hockey other than putting a puck in the net is how you win the game.

insults aside, we split with boston this year.

judging by your debate (insult first, facts second) tactics, im guessing you have been alive fewer years than i have been watching hockey. but good luck in the series none the less

[dawings1905 2]

Leino 7:21

abdelkader 6:11

maltby 9:01

all three played less than our 4th line center who plays behind malkin crosby and staal..... so dont tell us about rolling buddy ha ha

meech 4:49

You forgot to mention that 3 of those 4 would normally be in Grand rapids playing. Remember, the wings were without Lidstrom (or as you probably call him Lindstrom), Ericsson, Lilja (3 0f our top 6 D), Datsyuk, Draper, and Kops. Now that's some serious depth....when a team can be without 6 players that are part of the normal rotation, and still win in the conference finals that is saying something. I will say the league did you all a huge favor in moving the finals date up to this weekend. This is your best shot to beat the wings. IMO, when both teams are full strength the wings are much deeper, and a better all around team. This is your best shot Pens, don't blow it.

[reggiedunlop 0]

You forgot to mention that 3 of those 4 would normally be in Grand rapids playing. Remember, the wings were without Lidstrom (or as you probably call him Lindstrom), Ericsson, Lilja (3 0f our top 6 D), Datsyuk, Draper, and Kops. Now that's some serious depth....when a team can be without 6 players that are part of the normal rotation, and still win in the conference finals that is saying something. I will say the league did you all a huge favor in moving the finals date up to this weekend. This is your best shot to beat the wings. IMO, when both teams are full strength the wings are much deeper, and a better all around team. This is your best shot Pens, don't blow it.

you are correct sir. was just pointing out to the other person that we truly roll 4 as well and we are not just a two person team. your injuries could be huge in all of this. think i would rather beat your best though..... but i would take the cup anyway i can get it. ha ha.

good luck in the series

[Theophany 110]

insults aside, we split with boston this year.

judging by your debate (insult first, facts second) tactics, im guessing you have been alive fewer years than i have been watching hockey. but good luck in the series none the less

And we went 3-1 vs Anaheim, split 3-3 with Columbus, and were 4-2 against the Hawks.

Regular season record means little to nothing in the playoffs.

I've been playing hockey since I was 4; we're coming up on my 21st year playing the game.

Oh btw, here's a fact for you: our GDIF is 1.56 vs the Pens' 1.06. Boston was 1.09.

[reggiedunlop 0]

And we went 3-1 vs Anaheim, split 3-3 with Columbus, and were 4-2 against the Hawks.

Regular season record means little to nothing in the playoffs.

I've been playing hockey since I was 4; we're coming up on my 21st year playing the game.

Oh btw, here's a fact for you: our GDIF is 1.56 vs the Pens' 1.06. Boston was 1.09.

oh, well since you "play" i concede :-) ha ha.

just pointing out that the "they would have beat you, you couldnt beat them" argument is ridiculous as it is un-provable. the closest you get to proving it is past record which i pointed out to you.

good luck in the series

[redwings1973 0]

all pants wetting jokes aside, we beat the ducks the only time we played them this year. and the only time we played them last year.........so..... im not thinking they would have us panicking too much :-)

Never mind....sorry.

Edited May 28, 2009 by redwings1973

[marcmargolis 0]

oh, well since you "play" i concede :-) ha ha.

just pointing out that the "they would have beat you, you couldnt beat them" argument is ridiculous as it is un-provable. the closest you get to proving it is past record which i pointed out to you.

good luck in the series

Just in from the NHL!!

Brad Watson and Dan O'Hallaran have assessed two minor penalties to the Redwings prior to the games on Saturday and Sunday and have whistle the play dead anytime Detroit gains the Pittsburgh zone. Gary Bettman himself has awarded the Penguins a goal advantage each of the games of the finals, had sent out an eye specialist to fit Chris Osgood with 20/1000 glasses and has delivered leg weights to be placed on the legs of Franzen, Lidstrom, Hossa and Fillpula!

Can the NHL get a clue, it is supposed to be a home playoff advantage when you arre the higher seed and pay the price during the season!!!

Bettman go back to fixing games in the NBA, Stern missed you at last nights Lakers victory parade!!!

[reggiedunlop 0]

Never mind....sorry.

sorry, i miss the reference

[Louisville 112]

Leino 7:21

abdelkader 6:11

maltby 9:01

all three played less than our 4th line center who plays behind malkin crosby and staal..... so dont tell us about rolling buddy ha ha

meech 4:49

Abdelkader, Leino, or Meech are not usually full time roster players, together they've really only played a handful of games this season. Our depth helps even out injuries, but you shouldn't expect a lot of minutes from inexperienced players.

I'd say the Wings more so roll 3 lines, and will occasionally throw the 4th out there to bring energy and rest the other lines.

[Jake Ryan 1]

The Penguins should have been eliminated in 5 games last year. We took their third best player, and they replaced him with someone less talented. Unless the Penguins are on a hyper-amphetamine and roid diet for the past 2 months, they are not going to get past the Red Wings. I don't care what you say, but the Red Wings are the best TEAM in hockey. The Penguins may have 2 of the best PLAYERS in hockey, but there's where the difference lies: The Wings are going for a team trophy while the Pens are shooting for the individual ones.

[Barrie 900]

Just something else I'd like to say about the comparison between the 1984 Oilers, 2009 Penguins, and history. In the 1984 Stanley Cup Final, Edmonton had a 15 pt advantage over the Islanders (119 to 104) in the regular season. 2009, Detroit has a 13 pt advantage over Pittsburgh (112 to 99). Also, in an era where teams are awarded an extra point for losing a game after regulation, something they didn't have in 1984, Pittsburgh ONLY had 99 pts on the year.

We are the Oilers of the 1980's.

Again, the comparison between Crosby's Penguins and Gretzky's Oilers is a joke! Also, Crosby isn't Gretzky. In my opinion, that's very very poor analysis by people who are paid to talk hockey. It's one of the many reasons this year why I've passed on the pre and post game shows and all the off day talk on TV and Radio. Just play the game!!

[bonan78 1]

Media coverage isn't the only analysis that blows. Your suck-up commentary is laughable.

"Whipped a hot young goalie"? Yeah who played for COLUMBUS, the LOWEST SEED in the WHOLE PLAYOFFS.

Nice touch pumping up Chicago too. Yeah, they're the second coming of the '80 Islanders. Whoo!

Yes, the Pens faced cripples in wheelchairs, everybody the Wings faced is going to the Hall of Fame.

Hilarious.

Before I ignore this troll, let me reply to this nonsense.

We whipped a goalie who single-handedly got his team into the post-season, and is the favorite for the Calder and the Vezina this year. Then, we overcame a physically challenging 7 game series with the last team to win the Cup before us, a series that featured several blatant attempts to injure, during and after games, and the now infamous Intent to Blow incident. Not to mention that Hiller's play in net was the main reason his team was in the playoffs and knocked the President's trophy winners out. And don't be so quick to brush off Chicago either. They are so much like your team it's eerie. And look what we did to them.

I'm all for spirited discussion and a bit of homer-ism here and there, but you sir are a moron, and obviously don't watch much hockey other than your beloved flightless birds. I will take an added measure of enjoyment watching Hossa skate with the Cup on your TV screen, I only hope that you are man enough to stay and watch.

[10 Minute Misconduct 104]

Penguins fans are failing so bad in here.

I never get the point of signing up to another teams forums and trying to tell them how their team is so good.

[NHLrules? 32]

Not to mention this penguins team isnt even as deep as their 90-92 teams that won two cups.

[dawings1905 2]

The Penguins should have been eliminated in 5 games last year. We took their third best player, and they replaced him with someone less talented. Unless the Penguins are on a hyper-amphetamine and roid diet for the past 2 months, they are not going to get past the Red Wings. I don't care what you say, but the Red Wings are the best TEAM in hockey. The Penguins may have 2 of the best PLAYERS in hockey, but there's where the difference lies: The Wings are going for a team trophy while the Pens are shooting for the individual ones.

While it is hard to judge jake, IMO the Pens are actually a little better TEAM than they were last year. Their D is still suspect though. That is the one area they need to improve. I would also be a little concerned as a Pens fan about using Malkin and Crosby on those 3rd and 4th lines double shifting. If the series goes long it could wear on them. Although if it goes long, the wings are banged up....so who knows.

I will say this, when the wings are healthy they ARE the best team in hockey. Anything could happen though in the SCF, especially with injuries, and this ASSANINE (sp?) the NHL put together for the Finals. IMO the schedule favors the Pens.

Edited May 28, 2009 by dawings1905

[MidMichSteve 1,115]

I think the comparison between the 2008 and 2009 Stanley Cup Finals to the 1983 and 1984 Finals is a complete joke! The 2008 and 2009 Penguins are no where near the 1983 and 1984 Oilers! It's not even a comparison! The Oilers had Gretzky, Messier, Kurri, Anderson, Coffey, Huddy, Lowe, Fuhr, Moog, etc., etc., etc.. The Pens have Crosby, Malkin, Fleury, and ummmm. The Red Wings of 1995 to today are the Oilers of the 1980's. Pittsburgh is comparable to the teams the Oilers beat to win their 5 Stanley Cup Championships.

However, I don't mind all this talk, I hope it goes to Pittsburgh's players and their fans heads. They'll think they've already got this thing won, just because of history, even before playing a game. The Red Wings, just like Ozzie, will have more motivation to shut people up.

I expect Hossa to have a big series.

Pittsburgh is going to have to tighten up on "D", try and slow the Red Wings down, and try and control the play to beat the Red Wings. Good luck! The Red Wings will continue to use all 4 lines to perfection and have the puck all game. Plus we can still win games without Lidstrom, Datsyuk, and Draper to a team similar to Pittsburgh.

Let's hope they think they deserve it and are entitled to it. All they will have to do is show up for the games. That would be great!

Of course you are assuming they know how to read.

[Ms_Hockey 0]

Not to mention this penguins team isnt even as deep as their 90-92 teams that won two cups.

Definitely not.

That team had, what, five HOF-ers on it? This year's team has two? A possible three?

They're not even comparable.

[Ms_Hockey 0]

all pants wetting jokes aside, we beat the ducks the only time we played them this year. and the only time we played them last year.........so..... im not thinking they would have us panicking too much :-)

Playoff hockey =/= Regular season hockey.

You can't honestly be using the regular season record to make a playoff series prediction.

[Ms_Hockey 0]

insults aside, we split with boston this year.

judging by your debate (insult first, facts second) tactics, im guessing you have been alive fewer years than i have been watching hockey. but good luck in the series none the less

Again, for the second time, REGULAR SEASON HOCKEY IS NOT PLAYOFF HOCKEY.

You can be the last seed in the league in a conference and be a playoff monster. It's a whole different ball game and frankly, I'm surprised nobody here has called you out on this already.

Regular season records MEAN NOTHING.

[mjlegend 155]

Penguins fans are failing so bad in here.

I never get the point of signing up to another teams forums and trying to tell them how their team is so good.

2nd.