daniel1 32 Report post Posted June 8, 2009 FORWARDS Pavel Datsyuk $6,700,000 Henrik Zetterberg $6,083,333 Johan Franzen $3,954,545 Valtteri Filppula $3,000,000 Daniel Cleary $2,800,000 Tomas Holmstrom $2,250,000 Mikael Samuelsson $1,600,000 Kris Draper $1,583,333 Jiri Hudler $1,500,000 Ville Leino $950,000 Kirk Maltby $883,333 Darren Helm $599,444 DEFENSEMEN Nicklas Lidstrom $7,450,000 Brian Rafalaski $6,000,000 Brad Stuart $3,750,000 Niklas Kronwall $3,000,000 Andreas Lilja $1,250,000 Jonathan Ericsson $900,000 GOALTENDERS Chris Osgood $1,416,666 Jimmy Howard $716,666 ROSTER SIZE 20 BONUS MONEY (0% of cap) $0 SALARY CAP $56,700,000 PAYROLL $56,387,320 CAP ROOM $312,680 Can they start with 20? 12 Forwards, 6 Defensemen and 2 Goalies. Man this cap sux ass. Betman's "parity" really punishes anyone who drafts successfully and works hard to develop their talent. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frederick9125 0 Report post Posted June 8, 2009 Malts, Draps retire Pavel Datsyuk $6,700,000 Henrik Zetterberg $6,083,333 Johan Franzen $3,954,545 Valtteri Filppula $3,000,000 Antropov, Nikolai $3,000,000 Daniel Cleary $2,800,000 Tomas Holmstrom $2,250,000 Mikael Samuelsson $1,050,000 Jiri Hudler $1,015,000 Ville Leino $875,000 Justin Abdelkader $850,000 Darren Helm $599,444 ------------------------------- DEFENSEMEN Nicklas Lidstrom $7,450,000 Brian Rafalaski $6,000,000 Brad Stuart $3,750,000 Niklas Kronwall $3,000,000 Andreas Lilja $1,250,000 Jonathan Ericsson $900,000 -------------------------------------- GOALTENDERS Chris Osgood $1,416,666 Jimmy Howard $716,666 ------------------------------------- BUYOUTS ETC. NONE CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS ROSTER SIZE 20 BONUS MONEY (0% of cap) $0 SALARY CAP $56,700,000 PAYROLL $56,660,654 CAP ROOM $39,346 « EDIT THIS ROSTER » Comments, suggestions and corrections? E-mail admin@c Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jake Ryan 1 Report post Posted June 8, 2009 FORWARDS Pavel Datsyuk $6,700,000 Henrik Zetterberg $6,083,333 Marian Hossa $6,000,000 Johan Franzen $3,954,545 Valtteri Filppula $3,000,000 Daniel Cleary $2,800,000 Jiri Hudler $2,000,000 Kris Draper $1,583,333 Mikael Samuelsson $1,250,000 Ville Leino $1,000,000 Kirk Maltby $883,333 Justin Abdelkader $850,000 Mattias Ritola $767,500 Darren Helm $599,444 DEFENSEMEN Nicklas Lidstrom $7,450,000 Brad Stuart $3,750,000 Niklas Kronwall $3,000,000 Jonathan Ericsson $900,000 Jakub Kindl $821,666 Brett Lebda $650,000 Derek Meech $483,333 GOALTENDERS Chris Osgood $1,416,666 Jimmy Howard $716,666 BUYOUTS ETC. NONE CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS ROSTER SIZE 23 BONUS MONEY (0% of cap) $0 SALARY CAP $56,700,000 PAYROLL $56,659,819 CAP ROOM $40,181 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jake Ryan 1 Report post Posted June 8, 2009 actually on my roster I had Rafi retiring. I just kinda get the sense that if we win it all this year, this may be his last go around. I mean what else is there to do for him. He's at the peak of his game. He's still got it but occasionally his age shows a little. I mean what does he have to look forward to hanging around until everyone on this board starts bitching at him about missing assignments because he's "lost a step" You must not realize how awesome getting paid 6 million a year to play defense with NICK ***** LIDSTROM is!!!!!!! I mean, I can't think of a better job in professional sports. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheOctopusKid 19 Report post Posted June 8, 2009 I think there is some confusion on how the CBA and the the actual structure of the Salary Cap work - If a player is signed to a multi-year contract and is over the age of 35 - even if the player were to retire, the average salary/year continues to work against the teams active cap for the remaining years of the original contract. This is to prevent front loaded contracts (i.e. I sign Mats Sundin to a 5yr $12M contract at $10M, 500k, each of the remaining years at an average cap hit of $2.4M. Sundin retires after the first year, collects his $10M from the 1 year, and we only had to take a hit of $2.4M). So, if Draper, Maltby, and on the off chance that Rafalski retire, we still have the average/year salaries counting against our cap. In this case, it would be roughly $2.5M still counted against our cap if Draper and Maltby left. So - there is little or no reason to let them go if they wanted to continue to play. The current roster of players already under contract leads to an active cap hit of $47.3M. Assume the Wings allow Chelios, Hudler, Samuelsson, Kopecky, Conklin all go. Now the Wings call up Abdelkader, Helm, Howard all up - and that is an active hit of around $2M. That gives the Wings a Cap number of $49.3M with Ericsson and Meech active. So, the Wings resign Leino for $1M average salary. $50.3M That gives them Wings around $5M a year to resign Hossa. If the Hossa resign occurs - this would most likely mean Lilja and his $1.25 has seen his final days with the Wings - trade for a 3rd or 4th round draft pick in the future and give the Wings enough wiggle to land Hossa for around $5.5M and gives the Wings the following roster. Center - Datsyuk, Zetterburg, Filpula, Abdelkader Right Wing - Hossa, Cleary, Helm, Maltby Left Wing - Holmstrom, Franzen, Leino, Draper Non-Active Reserves - Ritola, Ryno, Axelsson, Downey Defense - Lidstrom, Rafalski, Stuart, Kronwall, Ericsson, Lebda Non-Active Reserves - Meech, Kindl, Kolosov, Goalies - Osgood, Howard Non-Active Reserves - Larsson Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
daniel1 32 Report post Posted June 8, 2009 I dunno, I just get the sense that if Hossa wins the cup this year he is off somewhere to a multi-year deal for 7+mil/yr. Maybe LA? Maybe San Jose trades Marleau or someone and signs Hossa? I just can't see him leaving 2 or 3 mil a year on a multi year deal to sign with Detroit when he already has his cup. He gets less ice time here, hasn't had a stellar playoffs, and probably doesn't like the city all that much compared to SoCal or even Florida. I also can't see Holland wanting to tie up that much salary in one guy when it could mean keeping Hudler, Sammy and Leino instead. Don't put all your eggs in one basket - and I don't believe Holland will. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aussie_Wing 354 Report post Posted June 8, 2009 2009-2010 Detroit Red Wings FORWARDS Pavel Datsyuk $6,700,000 Henrik Zetterberg $6,083,333 Johan Franzen $3,954,545 Valtteri Filppula $3,000,000 Daniel Cleary $2,800,000 Tomas Holmstrom $2,250,000 Jiri Hudler $1,750,000 Kris Draper $1,583,333 Mikael Samuelsson $1,200,000 Ville Leino $1,000,000 Kirk Maltby $883,333 Darren Helm $599,444 Tomas Kopecky $500,000 DEFENSEMEN Nicklas Lidstrom $7,450,000 Brian Rafalaski $6,000,000 Brad Stuart $3,750,000 Niklas Kronwall $3,000,000 Jonathan Ericsson $900,000 Brett Lebda $650,000 Derek Meech $483,333 GOALTENDERS Chris Osgood $1,416,666 Jimmy Howard $716,666 SALARY CAP $56,700,000 PAYROLL $56,670,653 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
swiss_fan 3 Report post Posted June 8, 2009 Hey guys! You should all look OUTSIDE of the square if you want to find the BEST solution for the Wings: here it is!!!. First we trade rights to Hossa, Stuart and Lilja for a high daft pick (around number 5 ) then BOUWMEESTER 2009-2010 Detroit Red Wings FORWARDS Pavel Datsyuk $6,700,000 Henrik Zetterberg $6,083,333 Johan Franzen $3,954,545 Valtteri Filppula $3,000,000 Daniel Cleary $2,800,000 Tomas Holmstrom $2,250,000 Kris Draper $1,583,333 PAARJERVI-SVENSSON $1,000,000 Kirk Maltby $883,333 Ville Leino $875,000 Justin Abdelkader $850,000 Darren Helm $599,444 DEFENSEMEN Nicklas Lidstrom $7,450,000 Brian Rafalaski $6,000,000 JAY BOUWMESTER $5,500,000 Niklas Kronwall $3,000,000 Jonathan Ericsson $900,000 Brett Lebda $650,000 Derek Meech $483,333 GOALTENDERS Chris Osgood $1,416,666 Jimmy Howard $716,666 BUYOUTS ETC. NONE CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS ROSTER SIZE 21 BONUS MONEY (0% of cap) $0 SALARY CAP $56,700,000 PAYROLL $56,695,653 CAP ROOM $4,347 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theswede 0 Report post Posted June 8, 2009 It took a while and it was damn tight, but i think i made it 2009-2010 Detroit Red Wings FORWARDS Justin Abdelkader $55,283,334 GOALTENDERS Chris Osgood $1,416,666 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eva unit zero 271 Report post Posted June 8, 2009 FORWARDS Pavel Datsyuk $6,700,000 Henrik Zetterberg $6,083,333 Marian Hossa $6,000,000 Johan Franzen $3,954,545 Valtteri Filppula $3,000,000 Daniel Cleary $2,800,000 Jiri Hudler $2,000,000 Kris Draper $1,583,333 Mikael Samuelsson $1,250,000 Ville Leino $1,000,000 Kirk Maltby $883,333 Justin Abdelkader $850,000 Mattias Ritola $767,500 Darren Helm $599,444 DEFENSEMEN Nicklas Lidstrom $7,450,000 Brad Stuart $3,750,000 Niklas Kronwall $3,000,000 Jonathan Ericsson $900,000 Jakub Kindl $821,666 Brett Lebda $650,000 Derek Meech $483,333 GOALTENDERS Chris Osgood $1,416,666 Jimmy Howard $716,666 Ritola is signed to a cap hit of $511,667 for next season. Push that 250k or so over to Sammy because Sammy isn't coming back with no raise. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eva unit zero 271 Report post Posted June 8, 2009 (edited) Assuming Maltby and Homer retire: 2009-2010 Detroit Red Wings FORWARDS Pavel Datsyuk $6,700,000 Henrik Zetterberg $6,083,333 Johan Franzen $3,954,545 Valtteri Filppula $3,000,000 Daniel Cleary $2,800,000 Kris Draper $1,583,333 Mikael Samuelsson $1,200,000 Jiri Hudler $1,015,000 Ville Leino $875,000 Justin Abdelkader $850,000 Darren Helm $599,444 Aaron Downey $500,000 DEFENSEMEN Nicklas Lidstrom $7,450,000 Brian Rafalaski $6,000,000 Brad Stuart $3,750,000 Niklas Kronwall $3,000,000 Andreas Lilja $1,250,000 Jonathan Ericsson $900,000 Chris Chelios $750,000 Derek Meech $483,333 GOALTENDERS Chris Osgood $1,416,666 Ty Conklin $750,000 Gives 1.78M to play with for raises and the like, and keeps this team strong for the long haul. Yeah, Cheli's still in there, pretty much as a depth pick. Holland has already basically said Chelios won't be back, regardless of if he wants to keep playing. Also, Abdelkader only makes $740k. But it will be Howard as the backup, not Conklin as Conklin will likely take a deal for somewhere between $1.75m to $2.5m to play 1A starter if not #1 outright for another team. And Kopecky would be retained on the 12-man roster of regular forwards ahead of Downey, so that's $575, meaning after all that you would have $2.098m for raises and the like on your 22-man roster, rather than $1.78m. You would also have 13 forwards and 7 defensemen, rather than 12 forwards and 8 defensemen. Edited June 8, 2009 by eva unit zero Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xBrave_Heartx 0 Report post Posted June 8, 2009 Val - Dats - Homer Cleary - Zette - Franzen Sammy - Helm - Leino Kopecky - Draper - Maltby Downey Lids - Rafi Kronner - Stuart Lilja - Ericsson Meech Ozzie Howard 20k over the cap.. waaaaah Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
uk_redwing 495 Report post Posted June 8, 2009 Val - Dats - Homer Cleary - Zette - Franzen Sammy - Helm - Leino Kopecky - Draper - Maltby Downey Lids - Rafi Kronner - Stuart Lilja - Ericsson Meech Ozzie Howard 20k over the cap.. waaaaah Get rid of Meech. Fixed. Me likes Or if Downey hangs them up, Chris Neil would do fine. Alternatively, living in my own little world, Wild are looking to trade Boogaard so trade Sammy for him, Downey retires, call up Abs: Flip - Dats - Homer Cleary - Z - Franzen Leino - Helm - Kopecky Abdelkader - Draper - Boogaard Maltby Lids - Rafi Kronner - Stuart Lilja - Ericsson Ozzie Howard Pffft....it could happen Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paolino99 5 Report post Posted June 8, 2009 I'd like to see Mike Grier (a detroit born guy) or George Parros... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Icesurfer 75 Report post Posted June 8, 2009 (edited) Buttman made it sound like the cap will stay the same. Based on that the total of this roster is: $56,677.777.00 Hudler, Jiri or Sammy $1,600,000 Datsyuk, Pavel $6,700,000 Darren Helm $599,444 Cleary, Dan $2,800,000 Zetterberg, Henrik $6,080,000 Holmstrom, Tomas $2,250,000 Draper, Kris $1,583,333 Abdelkader, Justin $740,000 Maltby, Kirk $883,333 Franzen, Johan $3,950,000 Leino, Ville $875,000 Filppula, Val $3,000,000 Lidstrom, Nicklas $7,450,000 Rafalski, Brian $6,000,000 Stuart, Brad $3,750,000 Kronwall, Niklas $3,000,000 Ericsson, J $900,000 Lilja, Andreas $1,250,000 Meech, Derek $483,333 Lebda, Brett $650,000 Osgood, Chris $1,416,667 Howard,Jimmy $716,667 12 forwards, 8 defensemen and 2 goalies. Meech a two-way player. 8 defensemen because of another extended season and some of these guys need a rest..... very key. Can't afford Hossa. Keeps the depth players. Between Hudler and Sammy .... whoever accepts 1.6 mil or less will stay..... Sammy will probably take less to give some cap space......can't keep both either. Holland is NOT a guy who will just waive a bunch of players.... as much as people want to dump Maltby he was still valuable in this cup run..... Holland is loyal to the players who are loyal to the organization..... Maltby has been a round a lot longer than Hossa and the Wings simply can't afford Hossa without dumping at least 3 players. In saying that next year is Maltby's last year on his contract anyway. Edited June 8, 2009 by Icesurfer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
