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BlakKy

Penguins' youngest player is their most mature.

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he is getting overpaid, even pens fans will tell you that

I will argue though that he is bar none their best defensive forward, best face off guy, very very good PKer.

He makes about 1m more than Cleary and I would say that is fair!

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I agree, I thought you were saying the only reason he is in the league is because of his Bros.

no im saying the only reason he gets as much attention as he does is because of them, he is a solid pker/grinder type player, but not a superstar or a member of the "core of the best 3 forwards in the league on 1 team" fallacy

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no im saying the only reason he gets as much attention as he does is because of them, he is a solid pker/grinder type player, but not a superstar or a member of the "core of the best 3 forwards in the league on 1 team" fallacy

Well of course not, because that last part is exactly what you said fallacy. They are not the best 3 forwards on 1 team, not even close.

Best 2 the argument holds water, you can defend that (whether you like Crosby or not he is very very very talented!) top 3 forwards no.

Going into this series I saw the Pens as the Blackhawks with the experience the Hawks were missing. (OK stepped away from my keyboard to deal with dog issues and I have no idea where that was going now!)

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So would Ovechkin, etc.

I agree with jollymania that Staal is not really exceptional. He's big and he's pretty good defensively, but his offensive upside is limited.

Yeah, he seems to be one of those easily replaceable players who will be journeymen their entire career.

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I don't think I would be able to buy a jersey of him just because it is a Penguins jersery. I will never be seen wearing one of those.

:blink: I am confused, either you are mixing them up or he is, Eric plays for Carolina, Jordan for Pit. Or am I mixing them up?

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:blink: I am confused, either you are mixing them up or he is, Eric plays for Carolina, Jordan for Pit. Or am I mixing them up?

Eric - Hurricane

Jordan - Penguin

Mark - Ranger

You are right. The other guy was confused.

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