Bring Back The Bruise Bros 1,029 Report post Posted September 19, 2009 It will be an interesting season,without a doubt.The Western Conference is generally known as the rougher conference,but with a lot of tough guys moving around,what do you guys think? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest CaliWingsNut Report post Posted September 19, 2009 I think the East has it, as far as thug life is concerned. Philly and Toronto take it, with Anaheim 3rd in my book. Course I'm also expecting Philly to do well this year Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bring Back The Bruise Bros 1,029 Report post Posted September 19, 2009 (edited) I think the East has it, as far as thug life is concerned. Philly and Toronto take it, with Anaheim 3rd in my book. Course I'm also expecting Philly to do well this year Yeah,i dont expect Anaheim to be as rough as they were last year.I think Calgary and St. Louis will be pretty high up there,as well.I think Toronto will have the most fighting majors at the end of the year. Edited September 19, 2009 by Bring Back The Bruise Bros Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skacore 2 Report post Posted September 19, 2009 East... it's just teams like Calgary, Vancouver, Anaheim, St. Louis make it hard to admit it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bring Back The Bruise Bros 1,029 Report post Posted September 19, 2009 East... it's just teams like Calgary, Vancouver, Anaheim, St. Louis make it hard to admit it You can't really go against Toronto and Philadelphia in the east Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wings_Dynasty 267 Report post Posted September 19, 2009 In terms of fighting: East. In terms of physical play: West. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thedisappearer 291 Report post Posted September 19, 2009 In terms of fighting: East. In terms of physical play: West. This. Dropping gloves does not equal "tough" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest CaliWingsNut Report post Posted September 19, 2009 This. Dropping gloves does not equal "tough" How often does Pronger drop his gloves...? He isn't the reason for the shift, but he's a big part. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest micah Report post Posted September 19, 2009 This. Dropping gloves does not equal "tough" A) The op siad "rough", not "tough". B) You're wrong. Droppping the gloves does equal "tough". Mucking it up in the corners like a Cleary or creening a goalie and getting hacked in your padded legs and back like Homer is a walk in the park compared to fighting a 6'6" 3275 goon who has a history of breaking people's faces. Every single toughguy in the league is willing to screen the goalie, finish checks and dig in the corners. They might not have the skill to, but they are willing to, they are tough enough to. Not all goalie screeners and corner muckers have the sack to risk getting their face caved in by some opposing gorilla. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eva unit zero 271 Report post Posted September 19, 2009 A) The op siad "rough", not "tough". B) You're wrong. Droppping the gloves does equal "tough". Mucking it up in the corners like a Cleary or creening a goalie and getting hacked in your padded legs and back like Homer is a walk in the park compared to fighting a 6'6" 3275 goon who has a history of breaking people's faces. Every single toughguy in the league is willing to screen the goalie, finish checks and dig in the corners. They might not have the skill to, but they are willing to, they are tough enough to. Not all goalie screeners and corner muckers have the sack to risk getting their face caved in by some opposing gorilla. Dropping the gloves does not equal tough. Tough is about working had, mucking it up in the corners, going to the net, not being intimidated by physical play. Yes, goons count as tough. But fighting and toughness are not the same thing. Jiri Hudler is tough. Theo Fleury is tough. Mike Comrie is tough. Yes, the effectiveness of all three is considerably lessenned by strong physical defense. But the fact that none of the three are intimidated by such defense, and all three go into the corners and to the net makes them tough despite their size. That is toughness. Not betting your face that your fists are better than the other guys. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
uk_redwing 495 Report post Posted September 19, 2009 Tough is about working had, mucking it up in the corners, going to the net, not being intimidated by physical play Jiri Hudler is tough Jirir Hudler did NONE of those things. Jesus Christ. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ManLuv4Clears 7 Report post Posted September 19, 2009 Jirir Hudler did NONE of those things. Jesus Christ. Beat me to it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eva unit zero 271 Report post Posted September 19, 2009 Jirir Hudler did NONE of those things. Jesus Christ. People complained all the time about Jiri Hudler losing battles in the corner for the pucks to bigger players, or about how he would just get knocked off the puck in front of the net by big strong defenders. Now... how does that exactly happen if he's not mucking in the corners or going to the net? It's a mystery, I suppose. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
uk_redwing 495 Report post Posted September 19, 2009 People complained all the time about Jiri Hudler losing battles in the corner for the pucks to bigger players, or about how he would just get knocked off the puck in front of the net by big strong defenders. Now... how does that exactly happen if he's not mucking in the corners or going to the net? It's a mystery, I suppose. Your logic is a mystery. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eva unit zero 271 Report post Posted September 19, 2009 Your logic is a mystery. Hudler fighting through defenders for scoring opportunity Hmm, what's this? Hey, this is fun! Anyone else want to say Hudler didn't battle in the corners or go to the net both with and without the puck? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Greatness=PavelDatsyuk 65 Report post Posted September 19, 2009 fighting a 6'6" 3275 goon who has a history of breaking people's faces When did the NHL start getting players that weighed over 3000 pounds? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Broken 16 381 Report post Posted September 19, 2009 The East is definately more thuggish. I still think the West will be more grueling. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jollymania 162 Report post Posted September 19, 2009 A) The op siad "rough", not "tough". B) You're wrong. Droppping the gloves does equal "tough". Mucking it up in the corners like a Cleary or creening a goalie and getting hacked in your padded legs and back like Homer is a walk in the park compared to fighting a 6'6" 3275 goon who has a history of breaking people's faces. Every single toughguy in the league is willing to screen the goalie, finish checks and dig in the corners. They might not have the skill to, but they are willing to, they are tough enough to. Not all goalie screeners and corner muckers have the sack to risk getting their face caved in by some opposing gorilla. Fighting is tough, we get it, but there are other things in this sport that are equally as tough and rough. And yes I would rather muck it up in the corners and be slashed than fight someone way larger than me (and apparently heavier than an elephant), but I wouldn't mind fighting someone the same size. I would take exception to a huge devastating hit though and right now the West has rougher, tougher hitters, especially if your going out there running the risk of being hit by the dirtiest hitting, most useless player this league has ever seen, Jordin Tootoo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jollymania 162 Report post Posted September 19, 2009 This. Dropping gloves does not equal "tough" It isn't the be all end all of toughness that some people here are delusional about and think it is. If you fight some one it takes an ok amount of balls to be punched ect... but it really isn't as tough and grueling as some people here think. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,804 Report post Posted September 19, 2009 Just because of the Wings, the East is a tougher conference. We tilt the balance to the other conference in terms of toughness, all by ourselves. I mean, some of our fans think Jiri Hudler is tough. What more needs to be said? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jollymania 162 Report post Posted September 19, 2009 Just because of the Wings, the East is a tougher conference. We tilt the balance to the other conference in terms of toughness, all by ourselves. I mean, some of our fans think Jiri Hudler is tough. What more needs to be said? I agree he is soft, but to his credit he took a bloody hit that would equal multiple punches and came back in the game. That being said, he had one hit in his whole career that I remember him knocking someone down and they were off balanced and he never fought through the corners, he just dangled through them and avoided contact. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lamothe 5 Report post Posted September 19, 2009 In terms of fighting: East. In terms of physical play: West. Agreed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jesusberg 1,256 Report post Posted September 19, 2009 As far as which conference is "tougher" it's still the West. They battle the way they do and have to go through all that travel and jet lag. Toronto and Philly make it a little tougher, though. Hudler fighting through defenders for scoring opportunity Hmm, what's this? Hey, this is fun! Anyone else want to say Hudler didn't battle in the corners or go to the net both with and without the puck? I do. Still pictures don't show a "battle". I remember Hudler's battles in the corners very well. Very often he was use spin moves, the boards and stick handling to get away. His puck pursuit afterward wasn't all that hungry. Datsyuk is amazing in the corners, but I don't consider his board play to be "tough"... The way he throws the body lately is, but not his board work. I think the only time you can call Hudler tough is when he comes back to the ice after getting rocked for the 5th time in the same month. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
