Aussie_Wing 354 Report post Posted September 20, 2009 Article Williams, 25, and Newbury, 27, signed one-year, two-way deals in July. If they don’t make the team, they will head to AHL affiliate Grand Rapids, if they clear waivers. Whatever happens, they believe this organization can advance their careers. Am I wrong, or isn't the whole point of a two way contract to ensure that a play can be sent to the AHL without having to clear waivers? Article written by Ansar Khan, a really knowledgeable guy, who's in the wrong here? They'll be great additions to the Griffins that's for sure. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dragonballgtz 273 Report post Posted September 20, 2009 Two way contracts mean that there is a difference in pay depending where you play. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aussie_Wing 354 Report post Posted September 20, 2009 Two way contracts mean that there is a difference in pay depending where you play. And that they can be sent down to the AHL without running the risk of being claimed by another team...? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heroes of Hockeytown 694 Report post Posted September 20, 2009 And that they can be sent down to the AHL without running the risk of being claimed by another team...? No. Waiver rules depend on the player's age, when they first signed an NHL contract, stuff like that. Two-way contract simply changes a player's salary based on where he is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aussie_Wing 354 Report post Posted September 20, 2009 No. Waiver rules depend on the player's age, when they first signed an NHL contract, stuff like that. Two-way contract simply changes a player's salary based on where he is. Hmmm well okay then, lets just hope neither are claimed, Williams in particular. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
uk_redwing 495 Report post Posted September 20, 2009 It appears theres a "handful" of players competing for that last roster spot. Could one be Jamie Tardif.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MacK_Attack 108 Report post Posted September 20, 2009 Hmmm well okay then, lets just hope neither are claimed, Williams in particular. Williams cleared waivers at least half a dozen times with the Leafs. He'll clear. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Buppy 1,720 Report post Posted September 20, 2009 A two-way contract does make a player exempt from recall waivers (assuming the minor league salary is less than $110,000 [maybe higher now]), but not regular waivers. Players are more likely to be claimed on recall waivers, since the claiming team only has to pay half the salary. A lot of players that would pass regular waivers would get taken on recall. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
newfy 695 Report post Posted September 20, 2009 It appears theres a "handful" of players competing for that last roster spot. Could one be Jamie Tardif.... I'm hoping Tardif or Newbury. Bring on the sandpaper. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lamothe 5 Report post Posted September 20, 2009 I'm hoping Tardif or Newbury. Bring on the sandpaper. My guess is it'll be Newbury or Williams, though I'd love to see Tardif up there. I think Newbury has a slight advantage over Williams because his checking and defensive game is better, and William's sick shot but lacking defensive skills don't exactly fit on a 4th line made up of defensive forwards and checkers. Newbury, overall, might be a bit more suitable for the 4th line until Helm returns. Williams could provide an offensive edge, but I'd be a little leary of putting him in with Drapes, Maltby or Eaves. I just think Newbury would fit better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wings1110 184 Report post Posted September 20, 2009 niether of them will start the season up there. its just a matter of who the wings will call up in the case of an injury Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lamothe 5 Report post Posted September 20, 2009 niether of them will start the season up there. its just a matter of who the wings will call up in the case of an injury Someone may start here until Helm is back in two weeks. Holmstrom Datsyuk Franzen Cleary Zetterberg Bertuzzi Leino Filppula Williams Maltby Draper Eaves Newbury (Helm - out with shoulder injury) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingfan40 1 Report post Posted September 20, 2009 Someone may start here until Helm is back in two weeks. Holmstrom Datsyuk Franzen Cleary Zetterberg Bertuzzi Leino Filppula Williams Maltby Draper Eaves Newbury (Helm - out with shoulder injury) I would be willing to bet that Abs will be taking Helms spot until he's healthy again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lamothe 5 Report post Posted September 20, 2009 I would be willing to bet that Abs will be taking Helms spot until he's healthy again. Only if he is played over Maltby / Draper / Eaves. Holland and Babs said they won't use Abby unless he's playing, so he won't fill the 13th spot on the Wings at any point. They don't want to stop his development. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
P. Marlowe 748 Report post Posted September 20, 2009 Do they need to call anyone up? 12 forwards make a playing roster. CBA has many detailed rules, but if I've understood something right, then not calling an extra forward up would save Wings some cap space for later use. Extra cap space helps when Wings want to put Lilja back to the roster. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
