CenterIce 83 Report post Posted October 16, 2009 Well I think its safe to say that everyone agrees that this current team, more or less the same line formations can make it to the playoffs, correct? Then why is everyone freaking out? Once you get to the playoffs the players like Holmstrom (who for whatever reason is getting beaten down by alot of fans), Lidstrom, Datsyuk, Zetterberg & Kronwall will carry the rest of the team just like the last 2 years. The point is to get to the playoffs because anything can happen there. I just can't understand that we are 5 games into the season...with alot of young talent coming through, a new backup goalie who has waited so long for a shot, A new defensemen who is a gigantic Swede that can hit and score & one of the best playoff goalies as of late in net and I hear people talk about trades, coaching moves, lineup changes, call ups/call downs? I trust the whole organization to put the best talent they have on the ice so I can sit back and watch hockey and given what they have as far as cap money goes I think they did a pretty damn good job... To your point, it is about expectations. People still think of the Red Wings from the pre-cap era, where anybody can be brought in to the lineup. Just think of '02, where your fourth line in the Stanley Cup playoffs was Robitaille, Larionov, and Holmstrom. Unfortunately, you can't do that any more. You have to work within your own prospects more than ever. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nightfall 871 Report post Posted October 16, 2009 Teams go 2-3 in a 5 game stretch all the time when a season is over 6 months long, I don't care how good or bad you are..... Wings went 2-3 in their first five games back in 97-98. Outcome was a stanley cup, but people are quick to forget that and hit the panic button around here. I agree. 20 games is a good mark to evaluate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stiffy 0 Report post Posted October 16, 2009 I disagree with this mindset. At any time of the season, beginning, middle or end, when the team falters we need to see adjustments that lead to improvements. This is a great chance to see if our coaching staff can have a real impact. Come on guys, is Scotty Bowman such ancient history around here? The man excelled by constantly tuning his teams to Stanley Cup winning machines. The antithesis of this was Lewis who in horrific playoff showings repeatedly stated things like, "Well sooner or later we will get our game back." WRONG. It just doesn't happen by will power, wishing or praying. I think Babs is just a tad too hands off. I'd like to see him be a little tougher. Not screaming and yelling on the bench, but accountability. Accountability for individual players from rookies to super stars and to lines. If they perform, great, if not, let them know it by switching things up. Again, isn't this what Bowman did repeatedly? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waitahochiminute 2 Report post Posted October 17, 2009 I disagree with this mindset. At any time of the season, beginning, middle or end, when the team falters we need to see adjustments that lead to improvements. This is a great chance to see if our coaching staff can have a real impact. Come on guys, is Scotty Bowman such ancient history around here? The man excelled by constantly tuning his teams to Stanley Cup winning machines. The antithesis of this was Lewis who in horrific playoff showings repeatedly stated things like, "Well sooner or later we will get our game back." WRONG. It just doesn't happen by will power, wishing or praying. I think Babs is just a tad too hands off. I'd like to see him be a little tougher. Not screaming and yelling on the bench, but accountability. Accountability for individual players from rookies to super stars and to lines. If they perform, great, if not, let them know it by switching things up. Again, isn't this what Bowman did repeatedly? Was Babcock a tad too hands off when he coached back to back finals appearances? What is he doing in the first 5 games this year that are different than the 282W - 130L career that he has had so far? Isn't it possible that he isn't even thinking about lines and is more focused on the mentality of the game? How do we know that he is not hands on or hands off? Is it because you don't agree with the lines errrrr what? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stiffy 0 Report post Posted October 18, 2009 Was Babcock a tad too hands off when he coached back to back finals appearances? What is he doing in the first 5 games this year that are different than the 282W - 130L career that he has had so far? Isn't it possible that he isn't even thinking about lines and is more focused on the mentality of the game? How do we know that he is not hands on or hands off? Is it because you don't agree with the lines errrrr what? Try this: http://www.marin.cc.ca.us/~don/study/7read.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
