We Should Have Gooned it Up These Last Two Games

[GMRwings1983 8,804]

He doesn't send May out for "staged fights." He sends May out there to play the role of a fourth liner who fights on occassion. May makes his own decisions on how and when he fights.

Well, I don't think Babcock sent May on the ice at all in the last game in the 3rd period.

[newfy 695]

That isn't "gooning" it up, though.

Brown's hit was legal. It was a legal play that you can possibly get no matter where you are on the ice and at any stage in any game, rival or not.

Brown's hit got him ejected from the game and a 5 minute major for interfernce I'm pretty sure. The officials didn't see it as legal. ANd to say that hit wasn't a goon play on a defenseless player is absurd. Brown wasn't making that hit to seperate Huds frmo the puck, he was hitting to hurt.

[Doc Holliday 1,888]

Brown's hit got him ejected from the game and a 5 minute major for interfernce I'm pretty sure. The officials didn't see it as legal. ANd to say that hit wasn't a goon play on a defenseless player is absurd. Brown wasn't making that hit to seperate Huds frmo the puck, he was hitting to hurt.

You don't know what Brown was thinking during that play. Hudler was turning with the puck and let it go with very little time. There is such a thing as "finishing a hit" and there is a reason for it.

[thedisappearer 291]

Well, I don't think Babcock sent May on the ice at all in the last game in the 3rd period.

Yeah, why try and score a freaking goal?

[newfy 695]

You don't know what Brown was thinking during that play. Hudler was turning with the puck and let it go with very little time. There is such a thing as "finishing a hit" and there is a reason for it.

PLayer has his head at your shoulders level, not looking at all and puck has been gone for a few seconds. He's also a player who plays on the edge all the time. I'm pretty sure he was hitting to hurt.

[Guest micah]

Yeah, why try and score a freaking goal?

I didn't really notice a whole lot of Wings in the 3rd who looked like they were trying to score a goal.

[Doggy 130]

Sigh....

I totally agree with the OP. I wish we beat em up, at least for a few shifts.

[thedisappearer 291]

I didn't really notice a whole lot of Wings in the 3rd who looked like they were trying to score a goal.

Sure, but of the 12 forwards we have, May is damn near the least likely to get one, right?

[Jake Ryan 1]

What's so stupid about this whole thread is that if anybody on here feels that we could have done anything physical to the blackhawks, they are in la la land. Who do the Wings have that can hurt Buff? Who do the Wings have that can hurt Duncan Keith? Who do the Wings have that can hurt Seabrook? ***, I'd take the Hawks goalie in a fight over any of the Wings. The Detroit Red Wings are a bunch of *******, people. Haven't you realized this? Everybody on here likes to suck Babcock's you know what, when they should be calling out for some new leadership. Babcock got outcoached in the finals last year, and he's getting outcoached this season. Detroit should have a player somewhere in its system that can fight. But Detroit doesn't. That's a coaching/management problem.

[GMRwings1983 8,804]

What's so stupid about this whole thread is that if anybody on here feels that we could have done anything physical to the blackhawks, they are in la la land. Who do the Wings have that can hurt Buff? Who do the Wings have that can hurt Duncan Keith? Who do the Wings have that can hurt Seabrook? ***, I'd take the Hawks goalie in a fight over any of the Wings. The Detroit Red Wings are a bunch of *******, people. Haven't you realized this? Everybody on here likes to suck Babcock's you know what, when they should be calling out for some new leadership. Babcock got outcoached in the finals last year, and he's getting outcoached this season. Detroit should have a player somewhere in its system that can fight. But Detroit doesn't. That's a coaching/management problem.

You don't watch enough hockey fights to be making such posts.

May would destroy any of those players you named. Janik and Newbury would take them also.

Duncan Keith doesn't fight. Bufflin is a a big fat ***** who can't fight. Seabrook can fight, but he's not better than May.

Who can hurt Duncan Keith? Are you freaking kidding me with that post?

Edited December 26, 2009 by GMRwings1983

[GMRwings1983 8,804]

Yeah, why try and score a freaking goal?

FAIL POST = FAIL

[thedisappearer 291]

FAIL POST = FAIL

Yes, you an sum most of your posts like that, but I was talking to other people.

As embarrassed as you are we didn't goon it up, I am five times more embarrassed about being shut out twice in a row to the Hawks. Instead of a fight in the closing minute, I would have much preferred a goal.

[haroldsnepsts 4,826]

Even with those guys in the lineup, that's hardly enough toughness to really goon it up.

I'd be happy if they'd actually just try and hit guys. Abby was the only one out there regularly hitting. Stuart had a couple. All in all though, most of the Hawks got a free pass anywhere they went. It's pathetic. I'd love to see someone put Kane into the third row.

Edited December 26, 2009 by haroldsnepsts

[KonstantAdvisor 4]

Even with those guys in the lineup, that's hardly enough toughness to really goon it up.

I'd be happy if they'd actually just try and hit guys. Abby was the only one out there regularly hitting. Stuart had a couple. All in all though, most of the Hawks got a free pass anywhere they went. It's pathetic. I'd love to see someone put Kane into the third row.

I'll take the 2-1 win over Columbus. Detroit was scoring fine up until Atlanta 11/26 and injuries are a huge part of it. The D has held up, for the most part, but Lidstrom is in a scoring slump and he's obviously logging a lot of ice time.

Gooning it up means more PKs. Everybody respected the Red Wings with Joe Koecur and Bob Probert, before Fetisov, Konstantinov, Lapointe, Draper and Maltby, but knowing when and where to play out the conflict is how teams win championships. If you watch Kane's first goal in their last game, Stuart gets caught flat-footed on a PK and Howard gets screened without a challenge. Detroit is fighting for the puck and fighting for goals just fine, but they are banged up and not getting lucky bounces.

I can't believe people are making the Wings out to be soft. Just out of curiosity, were you all finding things like this to complain about when Detroit was scoring 9 and 7 goals a night? We knew Detroit wasn't going to lead the standings from the beginning of the season and they have battled hard in a tough division. If people want to see a fight between Detroit and Chicago, the logical time for it to play out is March 7 or thereafter. Chalking up more Ws is more important than adding insults and cheap shots to the Wings' injury list.

[haroldsnepsts 4,826]

I'll take the 2-1 win over Columbus. Detroit was scoring fine up until Atlanta 11/26 and injuries are a huge part of it. The D has held up, for the most part, but Lidstrom is in a scoring slump and he's obviously logging a lot of ice time.

Gooning it up means more PKs. Everybody respected the Red Wings with Joe Koecur and Bob Probert, before Fetisov, Konstantinov, Lapointe, Draper and Maltby, but knowing when and where to play out the conflict is how teams win championships. If you watch Kane's first goal in their last game, Stuart gets caught flat-footed on a PK and Howard gets screened without a challenge. Detroit is fighting for the puck and fighting for goals just fine, but they are banged up and not getting lucky bounces.

I can't believe people are making the Wings out to be soft. Just out of curiosity, were you all finding things like this to complain about when Detroit was scoring 9 and 7 goals a night? We knew Detroit wasn't going to lead the standings from the beginning of the season and they have battled hard in a tough division. If people want to see a fight between Detroit and Chicago, the logical time for it to play out is March 7 or thereafter. Chalking up more Ws is more important than adding insults and cheap shots to the Wings' injury list.

My post was before the columbus game, so I'm not sure how much of your reply is directed at me.

I don't think the Wings are that soft, but if you're talking about running around gooning it up at the end of the game, which I actually wouldn't want them to do, you need more than one guy like May. They do however have guys who can check, but they don't seem that interested most games, except for Abdelkader and occasionally Stuart.