Boston entertaining offers for #2 pick overall

[Konnan511 1,736]

Any deal going towards them would at the bare minimum contain a top prospect, a mid-level prospect, a good youngish player such as Filppula or Kronwall,and at the very least a First.

Anything less is dream scenario, and would likely be much more.

So basically what I offered on the previous page.

[Konnan511 1,736]

for just a pick? that's a massive overpayment

This isn't an NHL video game, you have to give to get. They won't take A bunch of maxed out prospects and our pick for the Number 2 pick in the NHL Draft.

The past number two overall picks:

2009 - Matt Duchene

2008 - Drew Doughty

2007 - James van Riemsdyk

2006 - Jordan Staal

2005 - Bobby Ryan

2004 - Evgeni Malkin

2003 - Eric Staal

2002 - Kari Lehtonen

2001 - Jason Spezza

A few of those players are established NHL All-Stars, Some are on the verge of becoming dominate or have a year or two before they dominate.

I think it's crazy to think offering: Kindl, Ericsson, Ritola and 1st could get more than like 1 or two of these guys let alone the guys who are suppose to go number 1 and 2 in this years draft.

[king_malice 17]

1st,3rd(2010),3rd,4th,5th(2011) Ritola and the rights to Larrson

[Drake_Marcus 890]

Does anyone have a realistic scenario of what it would take to make this happen.

Would it be like...

Helm, Ericsson, Wings 1st round pick (Do the Wings even have a 1st round pick this year?)

Seriously? A 3rd liner, project defenseman with upside (but who isn't exactly young) and the 21st pick for the 2nd pick? Boston would laugh in our face. Filppula or Hudler would have to be the starting point.

[Guest Lidstromboli]

This isn't an NHL video game, you have to give to get. They won't take A bunch of maxed out prospects and our pick for the Number 2 pick in the NHL Draft.

The past number two overall picks:

2009 - Matt Duchene

2008 - Drew Doughty

2007 - James van Riemsdyk

2006 - Jordan Staal

2005 - Bobby Ryan

2004 - Evgeni Malkin

2003 - Eric Staal

2002 - Kari Lehtonen

2001 - Jason Spezza

A few of those players are established NHL All-Stars, Some are on the verge of becoming dominate or have a year or two before they dominate.

I think it's crazy to think offering: Kindl, Ericsson, Ritola and 1st could get more than like 1 or two of these guys let alone the guys who are suppose to go number 1 and 2 in this years draft.

no sorry it is a massive overpayment from the wings perspective, especially if they're getting nothing else in return except for that pick. boston probably wouldn't be able to take on that much salary anyway.

[Drake_Marcus 890]

This isn't an NHL video game, you have to give to get. They won't take A bunch of maxed out prospects and our pick for the Number 2 pick in the NHL Draft.

The past number two overall picks:

2009 - Matt Duchene

2008 - Drew Doughty

2007 - James van Riemsdyk

2006 - Jordan Staal

2005 - Bobby Ryan

2004 - Evgeni Malkin

2003 - Eric Staal

2002 - Kari Lehtonen

2001 - Jason Spezza

A few of those players are established NHL All-Stars, Some are on the verge of becoming dominate or have a year or two before they dominate.

I think it's crazy to think offering: Kindl, Ericsson, Ritola and 1st could get more than like 1 or two of these guys let alone the guys who are suppose to go number 1 and 2 in this years draft.

While I agree that people have been low balling here it doesn't mean you can equate the 2nd overall pick with those players above in terms of trade value. Picks are not sure things no matter how highly regarded the prospect or how high the pick is. That uncertainty makes it easier to get that pick vs an established player who's proven not to be a bust.

[FunkedUp 29]

Seriously? A 3rd liner, project defenseman with upside (but who isn't exactly young) and the 21st pick for the 2nd pick? Boston would laugh in our face. Filppula or Hudler would have to be the starting point.

So...

Filppula, Helm, Ericsson/Kindl, Wings first round, perhaps a Wings first round from 2011 as well? Seems like an awful lot to give up. It wouldn't really make sense for either teams to be honest. Though, from living in Boston, I get to witness the debacles first hand. I wouldn't be surprised if something ridiculous happened to that organization regarding ridiculous transactions.

Anyways, I wasn't proposing this trade. I was just wondering what a realistic scenario would look like. Judging by the 2nd round picks of the last ten years, it does look like my original proposition lacked quality. Good to know.

Anyways, I've seen much more preposterous trade proposals on these very boards.

[LeftWinger 4,963]

I'd rather trade Boston for their number 15 pick to ensure we get McIlrath.

^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^^

Trade prospect and our #1 pick!

[redwingfan19 293]

it would probably take fillpula, tartar and our first to get the second overall pick ( ie hall or seguin )

[Grim 5]

I too believe Boston has their heart set on Hall.

[LeftWinger 4,963]

This isn't an NHL video game, you have to give to get. They won't take A bunch of maxed out prospects and our pick for the Number 2 pick in the NHL Draft.

The past number two overall picks:

2009 - Matt DucheneVictor Hedman

2008 - Drew Doughty

2007 - James van Riemsdyk

2006 - Jordan Staal

2005 - Bobby Ryan

2004 - Evgeni Malkin

2003 - Eric Staal

2002 - Kari Lehtonen

2001 - Jason Spezza

A few of those players are established NHL All-Stars, Some are on the verge of becoming dominate or have a year or two before they dominate.

I think it's crazy to think offering: Kindl, Ericsson, Ritola and 1st could get more than like 1 or two of these guys let alone the guys who are suppose to go number 1 and 2 in this years draft.

sorry, while I understand the point you are trying to make, I had to correct last years #2 overall. I still wish the Wings would've made a deal for that #2 pick...

[king_malice 17]

100% the Bruins want Hall , he wears #4 because his fav all time player was Bobby Orr, his agent is Bobby Orr and Hall has said he would love to play for the Bruins.

[Grim 5]

I forgot that Orr was his agent. Any Oiler fans out here? are they dead set for Seguin with that top pick??

[titanium2 867]

Mannnn it'd be awesome if the Wings could somehow steal away that 2nd pick and select Seguin.

The depth down the middle would be fantastic.

Datsyuk/Zetterberg

Filppula

Seguin

Helm/Abdelkader

[Swayze 81]

That's weird, last week they were talking about Boston wanting to trade up to have 2 top-10 draft picks this year.

[Finnish Wing 110]

to BOS: Lebda & Williams

to DET: 1st pick + Rask

[Doggy 130]

to BOS: Lebda & Williams

to DET: 1st pick + Rask

Williams is a UFA. I suggest throwing in Cory Emmerton.

[king_malice 17]

i heard a few weeks back Boston was thinking about making a deal with oilers for the #1 pick so the Bruins would have 1&2 they said it would be something like

To Oilers- Bruins 1st round pick (not the leafs one)

Bruins 2nd round pick

Leafs 2nd round pick

Bruins 1st round pick (2011)

David Krecji (79GP 59PTS)

To Bruins- Oilers 1st overall pick

Andrew Cogliano(82GP 28PTS)

now if i was the Oilers i think i might take this deal, you get a guy like Krecji,2 1st rounders and 2 2nd rounders, and who knows they might be able to get that 2011 1st round Leafs pick to. Dont know if this would actually happen but the Bruins defintly have alot of picks to play with in any deal

[Grim 5]

i keep hearing the opposite... its the Oilers that want both picks. they are hardly on pace to make the playoffs, let alone contend. The oil probably also want to shed rostered players like Hemsky and Souray.

[Drake_Marcus 890]

Getting both of the top two picks is such a cop out. Just make a decision and stand by it.

[Guest Lidstromboli]

i keep hearing the opposite... its the Oilers that want both picks. they are hardly on pace to make the playoffs, let alone contend. The oil probably also want to shed rostered players like Hemsky and Souray.

souray maybe.. but hemsky?

[crotty99 302]

Out of interest, has any team ever traded away the #1 overall pick?

If so, who did they miss out on?

[Guest EZBAKETHAGANGSTA]

Surprised no one has mentioned Cam Fowler. From personal experience he's a great talent and even better guy away from the Ice.

Out of interest, has any team ever traded away the #1 overall pick?

If so, who did they miss out on?

Just off the top of my head, the Eric Lindros for the World deal was fairly recent, but he had already been drafted as the number one pick and was traded due to him not wanting to play for Nordiques.

Edited June 5, 2010 by EZBAKETHAGANGSTA

[Doggy 130]

Surprised no one has mentioned Cam Fowler. From personal experience he's a great talent and even better guy away from the Ice.

Just off the top of my head, the Eric Lindros for the World deal was fairly recent, but he had already been drafted as the number one pick and was traded due to him not wanting to play for Nordiques.

I think the same thing happened with Berard, no? But again, after he was drafted.

[king_malice 17]

My dad is a Bruins fan and we were talking about this the other day what if the Bruins trade down #2 for #3 in a trade

To Bruins- #3 pick and Nathan Horton, that would give the Bruins more Offense, and Nate wants traded anyway. Then you take Cam Fowler, Chara is a FA next season let his big contract walk and sign someone else cheaper and then Fowler could step in.

To Panthers- #2 pick, Bruins 2nd round pick and say like Michael Ryder or someone like that