Guest Scrosby87 Report post Posted April 8, 2011 We were having a discussion on the Pens forum --- and for some reason some of our uneducated fans are under the impression that Toews is a top 2-3 pick if you're building a team. http://www.letsgopens.com/scripts/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=52853 Personally, I couldn't disagree more. I think the only reason the Hawks won the cup was because they had an All-Star team. I don't think it has anything to do with Toews skill or supposed outstanding leadership. (Look at them this year) Somebody on our Pens board responds with saying Toews has skill comprable to Datsyuk and Zetterberg. I think that's a joke in itself. It just shows you what marketing can do for you --- Because Toews is on commercials etc people seem to think this kid is elite and one of the best players in the league. IMO --- Toews will never be half the player Datsyuk and Zetterberg are -- And even though they are both in their 30's I would still take them to start a team over Toews. Just wanted to see what other people thought? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeytown0001 7,652 Report post Posted April 8, 2011 Toews is a top player in the NHL, but he's no Crosby/Ovechkin/Datsyuk/Sedin, ect. It'll take a few more years for that. You'd be nuts to not want him on your team and he should certainly be considered Chicago's MVP, but as far as being one of the top 3 players to build a team around, that's pre-mature. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mabuhay Red Wings 177 Report post Posted April 8, 2011 Toews is a guy that you want to build a team around for sure but he's not top 2-3. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mmamolo 287 Report post Posted April 8, 2011 Toews is absolutely a great leader. For any of your non-Canadians around here that may have not noticed the impact that he had on the Canadian Olympic squad you would have seen him completely take control on and off the ice while he was surrounded by some of the game's best players and leaders. That being said, skill-wise there are a bunch of players that are currently better. But that doesnt mean you can't build teams around one of the best natural leaders in the NHL. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grwingfan 21 Report post Posted April 8, 2011 My guys under 30 only. 1: Crosby 2: Parise 3: Toews 4: Getzlaf 5: Eric Staal 6: Corey Perry 7: Rick Nash 8: Jeff Carter 9: Stamkos 10: Duncan Keith 11: Jeff Skinner 12: Malkin Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Finnish Wing 110 Report post Posted April 8, 2011 My guys under 30 only. 1: Crosby 2: Parise 3: Toews 4: Getzlaf 5: Eric Staal 6: Corey Perry 7: Rick Nash 8: Jeff Carter 9: Stamkos 10: Duncan Keith 11: Jeff Skinner 12: Malkin Wow. I'd rate Stamkos and Keith a little higher than that. I wouldn't build a team around Perry even if he has scored 50 goals this year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeytown0001 7,652 Report post Posted April 8, 2011 Wow. I'd rate Stamkos and Keith a little higher than that. I wouldn't build a team around Perry even if he has scored 50 goals this year. Who? As ridiculous as he was playing during the first half of the season, he's been that cold of late. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Opie 308 Report post Posted April 8, 2011 Toews wouldn't be top 3 but he sure as hell would be top 10! 1. Datsyuk, hey I may be a little biased here, but this guy does a ton on offense and is the best Defensive forward in the game. 2. Crosby, I am not the biggest Crosby fan, some of his personality traits (that I see on the ice). But there is no denying his skill level, and he is starting to get better on the defensive side. 3. Duncan Keith, Going to be a beast for years to come 4. Ovechkin, I really think he will grow into the C, just as soon as he progresses on the D. 5. Weber, Going to be very very good for many years to come, very good D-man. 6. Zetterberg, call me a homer again, but second best Defensive forward, when healthy is dynamic, and a very good leader. 7. Doughty, again going to be a great D man for years to come. 8. Parise, All around solid game, leader. 9. Toews, Very good all around game, will get better on D, will get more dynamic on O. 10. Lucic, I just really like this kid, his hands are really starting to develop nicely, another player who will get better in his own zone with time. Of course, this list is loaded with my personal opinion! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingslogo19 281 Report post Posted April 8, 2011 Toews is a guy that you want to build a team around for sure but he's not top 2-3. ^^ This would be correct I'd take him in a heart beat.. You'd be crazy not to Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mmamolo 287 Report post Posted April 8, 2011 My guys under 30 only. 1: Crosby 2: Parise 3: Toews 4: Getzlaf 5: Eric Staal 6: Corey Perry 7: Rick Nash 8: Jeff Carter 9: Stamkos 10: Duncan Keith 11: Jeff Skinner 12: Malkin There's no denying the skill that these players have but it takes more than skill to build a team around a player. I can't understand how Jeff Carter is ranked that high on this list. This guy, despite his skill set, is not all he's cracked up to be. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest CaliWingsNut Report post Posted April 8, 2011 Who? As ridiculous as he was playing during the first half of the season, he's been that cold of late. He has 7 less points than last year with 2 games to go. You get cold quick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Finnish Wing 110 Report post Posted April 8, 2011 Who? As ridiculous as he was playing during the first half of the season, he's been that cold of late. If I'm building a franchise cold play of late doesn't really matter much. He has a great future ahead of him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Z Winged Dangler 2,082 Report post Posted April 8, 2011 I would start a team with Toews for sure. that being said, here's the guys i'd take before Toews: Z and Dats (no brainer), Crosby and Stamkos. This is where i'd enter Toews. Great 2 way player that can "hold on to the puck" like Z. has a cup as hawks captain. every team that wins the cup has a great supporting cast. there was alot more to the 80's oilers than just Gretzky. After Toews the list opens up with lots of guys....OV, Nash, Getzlaf, Shea Weber, Sedin twins, Eric Staal...the list goes on, but at the end of the day, i'd take Toews atleast in the top 10 in the NHL. and basing this years performance isn't entirely fair to Toews as the hawks roster was completely raped. you don't lose versteeg, byufglien, ladd, madden, niemi, etc...without it affecting the chemistry and the team record. it takes time to figure things out and since the all-star break, the hawks have been one of the hottest teams in the NHL. and Toews has been great. 32 goals, 44 assists for 76 pts, +23 and only 26 PIM (10th in NHL scoring) that sounds like the kind of player I want to start my team with. and he keeps getting better every year. he has a very mature game that forgive me for saying, reminds me of 2-way forward Steve Yzerman. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eva unit zero 271 Report post Posted April 8, 2011 My top 20: Henrik Zetterberg Pavel Datsyuk Sidney Crosby Alexander Ovechkin Steven Stamkos Shea Weber Drew Doughty Ryan Miller Duncan Keith Jonathan Toews Ryan Kesler Zach Parise Cam Ward Ryan Getzlaf Rick Nash Nicklas Backstrom Mike Richards Keith Yandle Jonathan Quick Daniel Sedin Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crymson Report post Posted April 8, 2011 I wouldn't build a team around Perry even if he has scored 50 goals this year. Agreed. He's the antithesis of leadership. He's an arrogant little ***** who happens to have talent. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
