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#21 Red Wings Addict

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Posted 16 April 2012 - 12:01 PM

Negged when a lot of people in here agree with me, gotta love these forums.


Fine you big baby. :hehe:

Although I get negged too so you're not the only one.

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Posted 16 April 2012 - 12:01 PM

The rough stuff after a clean hit is fine...and often necessary.

You have to let the other team know know that if they do that stuff, they are going to have to answer for it.
Clean hit or not, you don't want the other team thinking they can dish out hard hits all game long without repercussion...so next time, maybe they think twice about dishing out a hard hit.

It's all about team toughness and sticking up for your teammates.

so you think burrows is tough because he fought kopitar who had nothing to do with the hit? Howabout a canuck player nailing brown? (they did several times after this hit)
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Posted 16 April 2012 - 12:03 PM

so you think burrows is tough because he fought kopitar who had nothing to do with the hit? Howabout a canuck player nailing brown? (they did several times after this hit)

Brown took a big hit in the corner. Totally clean, nice hard hit. Got back up, skated to the net and scored the winning goal.

Like I said, hockey is a tough sport. You should be able to take a legal hit without your teammates mugging guys.

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Posted 16 April 2012 - 12:14 PM

That is frustration right there! The whiny Vancouver ******* are getting the asses handed to them in a big way in all aspects of this series and that's how they decide to take it out. A hard clean hit should only be answered by a hard clean hit not by being jumped or forced into a fight.

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Posted 16 April 2012 - 12:25 PM

That is frustration right there! The whiny Vancouver ******* are getting the asses handed to them in a big way in all aspects of this series and that's how they decide to take it out. A hard clean hit should only be answered by a hard clean hit not by being jumped or forced into a fight.


Well thats one of Vancouver's problems in this season. They tried to attempt to be something they aren't, inwhich that being a hard hitting team. They tried matching the physicality of LA and they just end up getting penalties called because they're trying to match hit for hit. It's not their style, and won't be their style. A hard clean hit SHOULD be answered with a clean hard hit, or go score and pay redemption that way. I just can't stand this mindframe of, "YOU LAID A CHECK IN HOCKEY? K, WE'RE GOING TO FIGHT NOW."

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Posted 16 April 2012 - 03:27 PM

How about hitting them with a clean hit of your own. I think the idea that hitters have to be fighters, some are but some aren't and that is fine, they are different roles. I think it is reasonable to think that if you lay down a good clean hit you better keep your head up and be ultra-aware that the other team is going to be going out of their way to lay a couple of good clean hard hits on you. I don't think however that it is reasonable to think that any time you lay a good clean hit on a guy you have to fight some 4th liner who is on the team primarily as a fighter. Kronner for example is not a fighter and shouldn't get into fights with any heavy weights (or even middle weights for that matter) and is a great Dman hitting aside. He shouldn't be lost for 5 minutes each time he lays a good clean hit.


That's not what I said at all.
Keep the hits clean, and just hit them back to let them know that if they dish out a hard hit, they are going to get one of the same or worse in return.
Otherwise, your guys will be getting run all game long.
Sure, there will be some fights when it's your 3rd and 4th line guys getting hit, but that's more their role.

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Posted 16 April 2012 - 04:08 PM

That's not what I said at all.
Keep the hits clean, and just hit them back to let them know that if they dish out a hard hit, they are going to get one of the same or worse in return.
Otherwise, your guys will be getting run all game long.
Sure, there will be some fights when it's your 3rd and 4th line guys getting hit, but that's more their role.


If you notice the various responses from multiple posters it seems that it was universally taken that way (also as evidenced by the -8 on the comment). If I was mistaken I apologize. That was the topic of the thread and and it seemed that you were saying you were fine with the actions being denounced by the OP.

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Posted 16 April 2012 - 08:14 PM

No, that's not what I want to see. The Schenn hit was no clean though....he travelled a long distance and jumped into the hit....not suspension worthy or anything because it wasn't a head shot, but it wasn't clean either.

I liked the response by Asham to come over and do "something", but what he did was boneheaded and hurt his team rather than help. If he had come over and roughed him up a bit, that may have helped his team.


Wasn't clean? So does that mean it is dirty? Come on dude, that isn't a bad hit. Traveled a long distance? What does that even mean in this context when the puck is right there? I don't see a "jump" there anymore than a lot of very normal hits. Our own Kronwall has the habit of getting off his skates as he goes into the hit at the last second.

I guess we just differ on the response. Notice after Kronwall's hit on Heatley what happened? A couple guys said some things, he didn't get mugged. Oh, and he "lept" a bit too into the hit.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfX5BwDKjq0

What do you think of that hit?

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Posted 16 April 2012 - 09:49 PM

I absolutely do not think fighting is the right response to a clean hit. Would you fight after the opposing team scores a goal? Makes a pass? Changes lines? No - these are all just hockey plays. Now, I KNOW it's a little different because a hit has the potential to hurt someone, unlike those other scenarios, but still, the players signed up for hockey, not soccer, and hits are a big part of the game. I understand the need to "keep the flies off" of your star players, but that's your cue to get them back with a matching clean hit. Acting like a baby and getting all slappy over a fair hit is going to hurt your team way more than the other when you get sent to the box and they score on the PP.

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