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#61 Z Winged Dangler

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Posted 08 July 2012 - 09:45 AM

But if you listen to some of the other knuckleheads on this forum, nobody else offers a sheet. So... maybe the Red Wings could shock the world and offer Evander to a long-term contract worth $5.05 million each year.

If Winnipeg matches... Wheeler is available next year... and the Jets will be in worse financial shape to sign Wheeler. Do you see what I mean...? Even with a cap... Winnipeg has a hard time competing over time. The franchise only made $71 million last season, which is barely above the current cap. Keep in mind, this was the first year when all the fans were going nuts about the team moving back. Apparel was flying off the shelves. What happens when the fans start becoming complacent?


The biggest problem here in Winnipeg is that the MTS Centre was made for the Manitoba Moose with a shooting star wish that one day it would house an NHL team. the 15,300 seats in the arena needs to be addressed and have 3000 added. that's on average another $300,000+ profit per game the Jets are losing out on to every other franchise in the NHL. With selling out every game which is done here, it would add over 12.3 million to the final profit amount seeing as there's a huge waiting list for tickets as well as a 5 year waiting list for season tickets. The future here is safe, but is also contingent on an action plan to add more seats to the MTS Centre or just build a proper size NHL rink with about 20,000 seats.

As for Kane and Wheeler signing here with their pay raises coming...there's lots of teams in the NHL that spend to the cap and revenue sharing bails them out. At least in Winnipeg there's fans in the seats. Personally, I think that there's a much better chance of Kane moving than Wheeler who will most likely be re-signed before the trade deadline.

Also, Kane has 1-30 goal season, but he's also 20 years old. His speed, grit and scoring ability would be great for the Wings.

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Posted 24 July 2012 - 06:36 PM

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*Breaking* Notified #Jets and Evander Kane have "agreed on many levels for a contract extension" tweaking some things out.
No agreement yet but getting the idea it's close, will keep this situation up to date as I get new info, hearing 7 years.

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Posted 24 July 2012 - 07:10 PM

I think you are right. I don't think Kenny would extend an offer to a RFA. He hasn't had to in the past. He has had lots of assets & assets wanted to come here. We aren't stacked enough to be attractive in the same way.

It's a new day for Kenny Holland. He better strike a new ballance between being respectful of other GM's & improving his team. If Kenny Holland was viewed as a rock star today he should be seen as Pat Boone. Who wants to go see Pat Boone? Nobody! Hell, how many people even know who he is?

Edited by pondrocket, 24 July 2012 - 10:21 PM.


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Posted 25 July 2012 - 07:02 PM

oh man....this kid reminds me of shanahan/iginla power forward, scores, moves, fights when needed.

he would be a serious addition for the future.

i would offer sheet him ahead of most others that have been discussed.

a trade though would be a bad idea...winnipeg would want the rights to the great lakes, as well as the gordie statue.
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#65 St. Michael (the Red Wing)

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Posted 25 July 2012 - 07:45 PM

Is Kane even an option anymore? Saw on TSN that he is thinking about a new 6 year or something contract with the Jets.

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Posted 25 July 2012 - 09:00 PM

Cheveldayoff announced weeks ago that the Jets would match any offer sheet Kane signs.

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Posted 25 July 2012 - 09:04 PM

Cheveldayoff announced weeks ago that the Jets would match any offer sheet Kane signs.


Enter Philadelphia
....Ladies and Gentlemen Jimmy "F%$*ing" Howard.

#68 frankgrimes

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Posted 25 July 2012 - 09:17 PM

All the best things are 5 that leaves 4 more offersheet possiblities for Holmer :D

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Posted 25 July 2012 - 10:06 PM

Want Wheeler wearing Winged Wheel.

Don't Toews me, bro!


#70 Z Winged Dangler

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Posted 26 July 2012 - 08:14 AM

Want Wheeler wearing Winged Wheel.

And Dan Girardi.

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Posted 26 July 2012 - 12:10 PM

:cheesy:

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#72 MrBest7

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Posted 03 August 2012 - 02:39 AM

It's August 3rd and Evander Kane is still out there. He's better than old Shane Doan or Zack Parise.
A 20 year old, 30 goals scorer... In fact, Parise will be considering retirement when Kane is in the middle of his career.

I'd make an offer of $6 million year over ten years. He's worth a first, second, and third.

OFFER COMPENSATION
$1,110,249 or below None
Over $1,110,249 to $1,682,194 Third-round choice
Over $1,682,194 to $3,364,391 Second-round choice
Over $3,364,391 to $5,046,585 First-round and third-round choice
Over $5,046,585 to $6,728,781 First-round, second-round and third-round choice
Over $6,728,781 to $8,410,976 Two first-round choices, one second- and one third-round choice
Over $8,410,976 Four first-round choices

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Posted 03 August 2012 - 03:34 AM

It would be funny if Holland actually did make some sort of HIGH offer. I just don't see it happening. Winnipeg would probably match any offer and mostly likely that offer of a 1st, 2nd and 3rd. It would probably have to be over the $8.4 mark giving up all four 1st's to get him. Not realistic. If those offer compensations are correct of course :P

Edited by St. Michael (the Red Wing), 03 August 2012 - 03:35 AM.


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Posted 03 August 2012 - 11:15 AM

Evander Kane has size what we need. He has a heavy shot. He is physical and he has speed. Something the wings lack.
To say he only had one good season and that he may not do it here is a reach.


I say sign Evander Kane to $6 million per year over 10 years. ($60 million) Over time...he will be a steal at that price.

Winnipeg lost – ($5.2) million last year with $43 million player payroll. This year they have a $51 million player payroll without restricted free agent Evander Kane, who is still unsigned. Is Winnipeg willing to increase their payroll budget to $57 million??? They’re trying to sign Kane to a $4 million deal.

Evander’s stock is about to rise...

Matching Evander Kane with the best...

Evander Kane: 74GP, 30G, 27A, +11 ........($6 Million per year) 20 YEARS OLD!!!!!!
Rick Nash: 82GP, 29G, 29A, -19 ...............($7.8 Million per year) 28 years old
Pavel Datsyuk: 70GP, 19G, 48A, +21 .......($6.7 Million per year)34 years old
Henrik Zetterberg: 82GP, 22G, 47A, +14 ($6.1 Million per year) 31 years old
Zack Parise: 82GP, 31G, 38A, -5 ..............($7.54 Million per year) 28 years old

Before you say, “Kane does not deserve Datsyuk and Zetterberg compensation.” If Zetterberg or Datsyuk’s contract were up, they would be signing a $7 million plus contract today. So the going rate is much higher than Zetterberg or Datsyuk’s contract. Also... money received in the past is worth more than the future. (Inflation... Zetterberg and Datsyuk have been spending their millions for several years.)

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Posted 03 August 2012 - 11:35 AM

THIS IS AN 18 YEAR OLD EVANDER KANE!


THIS IS KANE AT 20 YEAR OLD!!! I'm telling you... this kid is worth $6 million per year.


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Posted 03 August 2012 - 03:57 PM

18 year old Evander Kane beats Chris Pronger....TWICE!!! Sign him to a long-term $6 million Contract! He's worth it!


Look at this young kids wrist shot!


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Posted 03 August 2012 - 09:48 PM

If you convince enough of us, maybe Holland will do it!

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Posted 04 August 2012 - 10:03 AM

If you convince enough of us, maybe Holland will do it!


I doubt Ken Holland even knows this message board exists. Although... I'd love to hear his opinion on Evander Kane and why Winnipeg is letting their best player float on the market. Evander Kane has size, toughness, speed, skills, youth and the numbers of greatness. He's not even in his prime....I mean... he's still growing. wow...what a chance we have.

Think of it this way... A kid out of high school comes into the NHL...plays in 66 games and scores 14 goals... AND boasts a shooting percentage of 11 percent... which is equal to Zach Parise' career percentage!

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Posted 04 August 2012 - 11:34 AM

It is painful to watch this kid not playing for the wings.

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Posted 04 August 2012 - 11:55 AM

I doubt Ken Holland even knows this message board exists. Although... I'd love to hear his opinion on Evander Kane and why Winnipeg is letting their best player float on the market. Evander Kane has size, toughness, speed, skills, youth and the numbers of greatness. He's not even in his prime....I mean... he's still growing. wow...what a chance we have.

Think of it this way... A kid out of high school comes into the NHL...plays in 66 games and scores 14 goals... AND boasts a shooting percentage of 11 percent... which is equal to Zach Parise' career percentage!

Offer sheets just don't work. Penner only "worked" because the Ducks didn't have cap space, and he ended up underachieving in Edmonton. They traded him for less than they gave up in compensation.

The revenue numbers you posted are from the last year in Atlanta. Numbers for the first year in Winnepeg haven't been made public, but reports suggest it's near $100M. They have plenty of cap space. They could match a long term offer for $6M, which Kane hasn't earned yet. They likely would match a short-term offer for that amount. To get him, you'd likely need to go into the next compensation bracket or even the top. The Vanek deal was the equivalent of almost $10M/yr with today's cap. He scored 43g/84p as a 22/23 year old, and has never got back to a point/game since, and scored less than 30g two of the last three years.

We get that you really like Kane, but liking someone a lot doesn't change the RFA rules.





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