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Lets be honest here: You are comparing Abs to the greatest defenseman in the history of the game and the current best player in the world.

Some people have a bit lower ceiling than others...

Good point. But the work ethic is what made those 2 great. Abdelkader may not be the most talented, but he hasn't worked his as off either. Datsyuk floors guys Cruz he's put in his weight room time. Abdelkader just bumps guys.

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Have to emphasize: going into this season, Abdelkader was comfortably slotted in the bottom six. We're talking like this is his rightful place and he's been at it for three years and so Where's the progress? Where's the improvement?

We're really not all that deep up front. I mean, sure, we have a good number of warm, capable bodies - but, for starters, we have zero players like the one Abdelkader's trying to be. Which is, of course, the whole reason he's in this position in the first place.

Beyond Abdelkader, and maybe Franzen, and maybe Bertuzzi, we do not have a big, mean, physical forward who can put the puck in the net (many times, and consistently) and really wear down the opposition on the forecheck.

So, now you have my positive and negative takes on Kader, I guess.[/bi-polar fan]

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Abdelkader may not be the most talented, but he hasn't worked his as off either. Datsyuk floors guys Cruz he's put in his weight room time

1. What makes you say he hasn't worked his ass off? It's not like he floats all over the ice, or has questions swirling around him re: his work ethic.

2. What is this thing with the weight room? Babcock called Abdelkader a gym rat earlier this season.

We're talking like there's a whole lot this guy can do to suddenly become a first-line scoring threat. It doesn't really work that way. Whereas, if a soft, undersized guy wants to get stronger on his skates? He can push the workout routine, or what have you.

Abdelkader isn't failing to score at a fifty-goal pace because of some kind of lack of effort. He's a fourth-line grinder with a very limited offensive upside. That he's scored ten goals is actually pretty remarkable, even with the help and minutes he's had.

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1. What makes you say he hasn't worked his ass off? It's not like he floats all over the ice, or has questions swirling around him re: his work ethic.

2. What is this thing with the weight room? Babcock called Abdelkader a gym rat earlier this season.

We're talking like there's a whole lot this guy can do to suddenly become a first-line scoring threat. It doesn't really work that way. Whereas, if a soft, undersized guy wants to get stronger on his skates? He can push the workout routine, or what have you.

Abdelkader isn't failing to score at a fifty-goal pace because of some kind of lack of effort. He's a fourth-line grinder with a very limited offensive upside. That he's scored ten goals is actually pretty remarkable, even with the help and minutes he's had.

This guy scored a lot in his per NHL days. I would like to see him come back to that.

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This guy scored a lot in his per NHL days. I would like to see him come back to that.

I think we all would. But then, all these guys were scorers in their younger days.

At this level, on this stage, Abdelkader...is a fourth-liner. He knows it, Babs knows it, Holland knows it. Problem is, we're so desperate for a big mean scoring winger that he (of all the people on our roster and in our system) is The Serviceable Solution. Meanwhile, other teams are loaded with the sort of player we're trying to force Abdelkader to be.

Basically, if we're gonna throw stones at someone for this, it should be Ken Holland. Almost our entire frickin' top-six pool is populated by soft, undersized, pass-first-playmaking-puck-wizards. And instead of finding a legitimate counterbalance, we lean on Cleary, Samuelsson, Bertuzzi...Abdelkader.

This is called "dicking around."

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